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Re: Luke Harangody
« Reply #135 on: July 06, 2010, 01:45:21 AM »

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Bonners twin?

Shorter Bonner (best case scenario) was my thinking as well.  Not sure that a shorter Matt Bonner is a major impact player in this league, but I suppose we'll see.

The word from Thorpe on Game 1 seemed to be that Harangody looked like a roster player, if not a rotation player.

I don't think this is a fair comparison. Harangody is much more aggressive in looking for his own shot than Bonner and also more limited on defense. The only similarity I see is the unorthodox shot release.
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Re: Luke Harangody
« Reply #136 on: July 06, 2010, 02:30:53 AM »

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I wouldn’t start comparing him to people.

*He has a nice faceup game from mid-range

*Can hit the spot up three

*Strong on the boards

*Doesn’t miss open shots



I’m not sold on his capabilities defensively yet, but if anybody can mold him into a good defender it’s KG.

Re: Luke Harangody
« Reply #137 on: July 06, 2010, 08:19:31 AM »

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Watching his highlights and hearing what they had to say...

strikes me as a player to be groomed as BBD's replacement. Baby will probably command the MLE in a year or two. Harangody seems like basically the same player, except with worse feet and apparently superior defensive rebounding capabilities.

I doubt he'll be able to replace Baby.  Baby thought he was going to get the MLE his last contract, but didn't.
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Re: Luke Harangody
« Reply #138 on: July 06, 2010, 08:24:49 AM »

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I think Harpring was slightly less muscular, but about the same height.  However Harpring had a better deep range touch and better handling and passing skills.  He was a legit 3 when healthy.  Luke reminds me more of Ryan Gomes, as his game will be more focused in the NBA on weak side post, offensive glass, and spot up 3's.  I loved his help D today, he seems to already have a feel for straddling the pick and roll which is the hallmark of our defensive system.
He seems a little bulkier than Gomes so I would hope he's a true PF; don't need yet another tweener.

I think the Harpring comparison is fair.  He will develop a better deep range and better passing/handling skills as he matures; can't expect him to have it all right away.  The main thing is he has an NBA body and is a heady player with at least a little range on his jumpshot.

The Bonner comparison is not a good one, IMO.  Bonner is a 3-point specialist whereas Harangody doesn't mind getting into the fray down low and getting his offense within the flow of the game.

Re: Luke Harangody
« Reply #139 on: July 06, 2010, 08:43:00 AM »

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Bigger Gomes makes sense. He's not Scal 2.0 - but from a roster perspective, he's likely to take that roster spot. If he can learn to defend like Scal and stay in top bball shape - he may too get overpaid like Scal someday.

Re: Luke Harangody
« Reply #140 on: July 06, 2010, 08:56:48 AM »

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Don't know what the fuss is. the guy was totally swallowed up as soon as he got inside with the bigs. He clearly did not belong there. Doubt you can have an effective PF who can't mix it up inside and who's outside game will also be challenged by bigger PF's.

Re: Luke Harangody
« Reply #141 on: July 06, 2010, 09:01:14 AM »

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Much more skilled than Bonner with less range for now...  He's going to struggle with length like BBD from time to time but, he's been working on that jumper for a few years and it's already paying off.  Like Bonner and Kevin Martin from Sactown  he'll be able to get his set shot 3 off against NBA competition.  He's going to be a glue guy that will make the right play most of the time but, unlike a Scal if he has to make 'they' play he can.  
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Re: Luke Harangody
« Reply #142 on: July 06, 2010, 09:02:18 AM »

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Don't know what the fuss is. the guy was totally swallowed up as soon as he got inside with the bigs. He clearly did not belong there. Doubt you can have an effective PF who can't mix it up inside and who's outside game will also be challenged by bigger PF's.

You must really be concerned about the fact BBD gets his shot blocked alot.
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« Reply #143 on: July 06, 2010, 09:03:00 AM »

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Don't know what the fuss is. the guy was totally swallowed up as soon as he got inside with the bigs. He clearly did not belong there. Doubt you can have an effective PF who can't mix it up inside and who's outside game will also be challenged by bigger PF's.

BBD anyone?!

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« Reply #144 on: July 06, 2010, 09:03:36 AM »

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Re: Luke Harangody
« Reply #145 on: July 06, 2010, 09:05:15 AM »

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Don't know what the fuss is. the guy was totally swallowed up as soon as he got inside with the bigs. He clearly did not belong there. Doubt you can have an effective PF who can't mix it up inside and who's outside game will also be challenged by bigger PF's.

BBD anyone?!

Not exactly because BBD has other worldly athletic ability but, yes there is precedent for undersized 4's although Haragody is more like Gomes as previously mentioned.  A 3/4 tweener and nice bench player in a few years.
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Re: Luke Harangody
« Reply #146 on: July 06, 2010, 09:12:12 AM »

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I think Harangody will eventually be viewed as one of the best picks from this year's second round.  Like others, I see a lot of Ryan Gomes in him, in terms of game, draft position, and his mentality.  If BBD went down with an injury, I think Harangody could step in and win fans with his game.

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Re: Luke Harangody
« Reply #147 on: July 06, 2010, 09:16:00 AM »

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Outside of him becoming a dead eye three shooter, or playing in the exactly right team, he'll need to be a better defender to make an NBA rotation. Undersized as he is, he can learn to compete against bigger PF and quicker SF, then he'll get a rotation spot at some point.

If not I see him as a 10-12 man, third string PF, 6th big, emergency SF option.

Re: Luke Harangody
« Reply #148 on: July 06, 2010, 09:34:55 AM »

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On draft night I was disgusted by the Harangody pick, the reason being that two former lottery picks were still on the board.  Well, good luck to Stanley Robinson and Willie Warren, but basically it's a another case of ignorance-generated disgust.  Imo we now have the second coming of Gomes but with a better outside shot.  Not great shakes, but not bad at #52.  Not bad at all.  

My problem with Gomes is that he did best when he played big minutes, and mainly at the PF.  Ryan gets better and better the longer he's on the floor.  His intensity seems pegged to # of minutes played.....That's why it's a shame he's small for PF.  If not for his size he could start there, play big minutes and put up really good numbers. ( He'd be better off either taller or much much thicker so he could be used as a space creater).  Anyway, back when we had Powe and Gomes I began to see that in short minutes off the bench Gomes was less effective, and I became a huge Powe fan because Powe was capable of coming off the bench and could immediately start bringing down rebounds, as if he was already warmed up, as if he'd been playing in another game (imagine two courts next to each other) and just slid over into the Celts lineup and starting bringing down boards with full intensity.  

Because Gomes can't be played big minutes at PF, one has to play him at the 3, and I guess his 3-point shot has improved, so maybe he's more 3-like than he was when he had him.  I hope wherever he ends up he gets lots of minutes, but also works on being more physical from the moment he steps on the floor....He needs to add a bit of dirt to his game to go with his high IQ....big Gomes fan, just some observations...

In terms of intangibles, Harangody seems like he'll have that Powe-like ability to hit the floor running, able to contribute without needing to first build up a head of steam.

Of course Harangody will get some minutes at the 4, but to me he seems better suited to keeping weight off and doing what he can from the 3 (footwork drills galore!).  He seems to get his shot off very quickly which should keep it from getting blocked too often.  If the Celtics can find some big back-up bigs, a defensive twin tower off the bench situation, then Harongody could really do some great things on offense without worrying too much about getting beaten by the Paul George's of the world....We're not likely to get that kind of lineup off the bench frontcourt, but way down the road I don't see why Harongody couldn't start at the 3 alongside, for example, Cole Aldrich and Josh Smith,  Perk and Ed Davis, Perk and Anthony Randolph, those kinds of frontcourts......

Well, I have no clue if Harongody can make it longterm at the 3.  But that's my wish.  If he can make it there, then don't be surprised if in 3 years Paul Pierce comes off the bench to replace Harangody!

Re: Luke Harangody
« Reply #149 on: July 06, 2010, 09:35:22 AM »

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I was very high on the play of Harangody in yesterday's game.  As I said in another thread, he played to win a spot, hitting his shots (ugly, but effective), staying active and involved  on both ends of the floor.  He seemed to show good vision and put himself in position to be involved in a lot of plays...inate court sense.

However, it was only one summer league game!  He was a very late pick!  If he ends up on the Celtics bench it will be a coup.  I don't think it is fair to compare him with any NBA player yet, or project him to take anyone's place...but I am rooting for him and I did like his effort.
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