Luke Harangody

[Bossco]

Harangody the steal of the draft? - this writer thinks so:http://blogs.forbes.com/sportsmoney/2010/06/notre-dames-harangody-is-steal-of-the-nba-draft/?boxes=businesschannelsections

It is hard to argue the numbers. He is the only player to average 20-10 for his career in the 30 year history of the big east, and the only player to lead that league in both scoring and rebounding more than once.

I trust in Danny.

[PosImpos]

Harangody the steal of the draft? - this writer thinks so:http://blogs.forbes.com/sportsmoney/2010/06/notre-dames-harangody-is-steal-of-the-nba-draft/?boxes=businesschannelsections

It is hard to argue the numbers. He is the only player to average 20-10 for his career in the 30 year history of the big east, and the only player to lead that league in both scoring and rebounding more than once.

I trust in Danny.

Numbers don't mean a whole lot in college...Harangody was the only player of any consequence on a fairly crappy team, so he did all the rebounding and most of the scoring every single night for four years.

Production in college doesn't necessarily equal production in the NBA.  If it did, Ty Hansbrough would be a star.  Instead, he's a capable backup at best in the NBA. 

Harangody never won player of the year or a national title in college...I'm guessing his absolute ceiling is decent 4th big.

[Meadowlark_Scal]

You know, it just came to me....if we still have doc, you don't have to worry if these two new draft picks are good, interested, have heart, game or whatever....THEY WILL NEVER GET ON THE COURT IN A REAL GAME.......and even if they did , and scored a few, he will pull them and bench them..like he did to a few guys i remember.....!

[Cman]

Numbers don't mean a whole lot in college...Harangody was the only player of any consequence on a fairly crappy team, so he did all the rebounding and most of the scoring every single night for four years.

I don't disagree with the point of your post, but your observation above that Harangody was the only player of consequence also implies that he was double teamed every game... and was still able to put up 20-10.

[billysan]

Production in college doesn't necessarily equal production in the NBA.  If it did, Ty Hansbrough would be a star.  Instead, he's a capable backup at best in the NBA.  
Harangody never won player of the year or a national title in college...I'm guessing his absolute ceiling is decent 4th big.

Would anyone on this blog not be satisfied with a guy that was a "capable NBA backup" after being drafted this deep in the second round? Why would you complain or criticize Danny about a pick like that? I think there is a chance we end up with another Gomes/Powe type player here. A reliable bench contributor, not a star and not expected to be one. If not, it was a decent effort.

[hwangjini_1]

And one more small observation based solely on the video above... Harangody does a pretty good job of boxing guys out.

He seems to play pretty good fundamental basketball.

Let's see how he does this summer.

[PosImpos]

Production in college doesn't necessarily equal production in the NBA.  If it did, Ty Hansbrough would be a star.  Instead, he's a capable backup at best in the NBA.  
Harangody never won player of the year or a national title in college...I'm guessing his absolute ceiling is decent 4th big.

Would anyone on this blog not be satisfied with a guy that was a "capable NBA backup" after being drafted this deep in the second round? Why would you complain or criticize Danny about a pick like that? I think there is a chance we end up with another Gomes/Powe type player here. A reliable bench contributor, not a star and not expected to be one. If not, it was a decent effort.

My main concern with the pick is that the best case scenario is that Harangody turns into Glen Davis.  We already have Glen Davis.  As long as Davis is on the team, it's unlikely Harangody will get much playing time at all.  Young players have to get significant playing time to develop.  

In other words, I have a hard time seeing Harangody reach his potential - whatever that may be - because there isn't room for another undersized, stocky power forward on the roster.

It's possible Luke was the best player available at #52.  However, I think there may have been other players with a different physical profile and projected role who might have had a better chance of finding a place in our rotation (say, an athletic wing).

[Andy Jick]

Production in college doesn't necessarily equal production in the NBA.  If it did, Ty Hansbrough would be a star.  Instead, he's a capable backup at best in the NBA.  
Harangody never won player of the year or a national title in college...I'm guessing his absolute ceiling is decent 4th big.

Would anyone on this blog not be satisfied with a guy that was a "capable NBA backup" after being drafted this deep in the second round? Why would you complain or criticize Danny about a pick like that? I think there is a chance we end up with another Gomes/Powe type player here. A reliable bench contributor, not a star and not expected to be one. If not, it was a decent effort.

Personally, I see him in the potential mold of someone danny let get away, who is a serviceable backup in this league: darius songaila.  if harangody could make a contribution of that type i'd be pleased.  time will tell...

[guava_wrench]

Production in college doesn't necessarily equal production in the NBA.  If it did, Ty Hansbrough would be a star.  Instead, he's a capable backup at best in the NBA.  
Harangody never won player of the year or a national title in college...I'm guessing his absolute ceiling is decent 4th big.

Would anyone on this blog not be satisfied with a guy that was a "capable NBA backup" after being drafted this deep in the second round? Why would you complain or criticize Danny about a pick like that? I think there is a chance we end up with another Gomes/Powe type player here. A reliable bench contributor, not a star and not expected to be one. If not, it was a decent effort.

My main concern with the pick is that the best case scenario is that Harangody turns into Glen Davis.  We already have Glen Davis.  As long as Davis is on the team, it's unlikely Harangody will get much playing time at all.  Young players have to get significant playing time to develop.  

In other words, I have a hard time seeing Harangody reach his potential - whatever that may be - because there isn't room for another undersized, stocky power forward on the roster.

It's possible Luke was the best player available at #52.  However, I think there may have been other players with a different physical profile and projected role who might have had a better chance of finding a place in our rotation (say, an athletic wing).

One the other hand, a lot of people liked having Powe on the roster, even when he had Baby.

[xmuscularghandix]

Tommy Heinsohn is going to love this kid with all those hook shots.

Luke Harangody kind of is a REALLY poor mans Tommy. Although if the league was the same he might have the same success.

[PosImpos]

Production in college doesn't necessarily equal production in the NBA.  If it did, Ty Hansbrough would be a star.  Instead, he's a capable backup at best in the NBA. 
Harangody never won player of the year or a national title in college...I'm guessing his absolute ceiling is decent 4th big.

Would anyone on this blog not be satisfied with a guy that was a "capable NBA backup" after being drafted this deep in the second round? Why would you complain or criticize Danny about a pick like that? I think there is a chance we end up with another Gomes/Powe type player here. A reliable bench contributor, not a star and not expected to be one. If not, it was a decent effort.

My main concern with the pick is that the best case scenario is that Harangody turns into Glen Davis.  We already have Glen Davis.  As long as Davis is on the team, it's unlikely Harangody will get much playing time at all.  Young players have to get significant playing time to develop. 

In other words, I have a hard time seeing Harangody reach his potential - whatever that may be - because there isn't room for another undersized, stocky power forward on the roster.

It's possible Luke was the best player available at #52.  However, I think there may have been other players with a different physical profile and projected role who might have had a better chance of finding a place in our rotation (say, an athletic wing).

One the other hand, a lot of people liked having Powe on the roster, even when he had Baby.

Powe is bigger and more athletic than Harangody is (at least, he was before the injury).  Plus, even when we had both of them on the roster it seemed as if we probably only needed one of them.

[noro]

If anyone here follows the BEast as faithfully as I do, you would know that when the Haragutang got injured at the end of the year, his team went on a great run that put them into the tourney... then Harangody returned and they exited in the first round. he takes a LOT of shots. Understanding he has to score points for ND to be good, him scoring 20 a game was more a result of taking upwards of 20-30 shots each game.

He is very unathletic, and despite him looking good in that video against Louisville, at the Carrier Dome in 2009 (not last season, the 08-09 season) we played man on him, he was unable to rebound or get off good shots against a very strong, physical center in Arinze Onuaku. Syracuse decided to go M2M that game to contain Harangody, and completely shut him down.

He would be ok to have on the roster if we didn't have Baby already. But he is a less athletic, more physically limited Glen Davis. Don't get your hopes up.

Syracuse did shut down Gody's offensive game (9-28 from the field!), but you can hardly say Arinze kept him off the boards.  Gody outrebounded him 16 to 8.

And this season, Gody torched the Arinze-Wes Johnson frontcourt for 31-14 on 50% shooting.

The guy can rebound and score against high level competition.  His struggles with scoring efficiency would indicate that he should take a back-seat to his NBA teammates on shot-creating and shot-taking opportunities, but he should be able to rebound right away.

This season we didn't play man at all that game, and our defensive philosophy was to pretty much force the bigs to score. We stopped the shooters, which was the big thing. Also, the side of the zone covering Gody would have been Arinze at center and Rick Jackson at the wing on his side.

He can rebound, but against tall NBA competition it's going to be a lot harder for him than you think.

[Fred Roberts]

Well, BBD may leave after next year, so we'd have our BBD replacement on the squad. Luke is also working on his outside game (or shot), so that he can add versatility.

He's a really tough kid. Short, but tough. . with some skill. I think he'll do well in the right situations.

[Evantime34]

If we get anything at all out of this guy it will be a great pick with how late he was drafted.

He really reminds me of Gomes in that he is able to be at the right place at the right time on a cut or an offensive rebound.

He plays the game with great intensity and desire, players like that succeed more often than they fail. I expect him to have a long NBA career as a back up.

[wiley]

If we get anything at all out of this guy it will be a great pick with how late he was drafted.

He really reminds me of Gomes in that he is able to be at the right place at the right time on a cut or an offensive rebound.

He plays the game with great intensity and desire, players like that succeed more often than they fail. I expect him to have a long NBA career as a back up.

I agree with people who compare him to Gomes.  I don't get the Big Baby comparisons really.  Baby can move people, including bigs.  Harongody's not going to be pushing NBA bigs around in the paint.  He may rebound at times like a big, but he won't be carving much space.  If we can play him at the 3 and somehow cover up for the challenge he'll face their defensively, that would be great.  I see him as a down and dirty 3 with an outside shot alongside lots of beef at the 4 and 5, or a small ball 4 against small lineups.  I think he'll be way more valuable than Scal was (defense aside), because he's a more confident basketball player, brain type aside...