Luke Harangody

[feckless]

I was very high on the play of Harangody in yesterday's game.  As I said in another thread, he played to win a spot, hitting his shots (ugly, but effective), staying active and involved  on both ends of the floor.  He seemed to show good vision and put himself in position to be involved in a lot of plays...inate court sense.

However, it was only one summer league game!  He was a very late pick!  If he ends up on the Celtics bench it will be a coup.  I don't think it is fair to compare him with any NBA player yet, or project him to take anyone's place...but I am rooting for him and I did like his effort.

Pretty much exactly as i saw Harangody--a real pleasant surprise as i had never seen him before. 

Also showing like he could maybe be a 3rd point or better was Oliver Lafayette,  Jaycee Carroll can score and knows the game but is a smaller 2.

i hope we have not guaranteed Erden as other that having good size he was lost out there, looked like he had never seen size or athleticism at that level in his life. 

And Green the other PG getting some mention looked okay but 90% of the time he found his own shot --a score first point with size and the ability to get to the hoop. 

Gaffney essentially did nothing and missed his shots!

[Andy Jick]

Harangody is going to rely heavily on a solid PG to get him open/clean looks.  I think his biggest problem against NBA competition (and I don't consider summer league competition to be that good, not only from the standpoint of talent but of game preparation) will be the quickness of the defense to close in on him.  I think it's hard to say how well he'll fare against players that are taller (as a PF) or quicker (as a SF) than him...  But if he can knock down that shot with consistency that could be his calling card.

[thirstyboots18]

One positive for the Celtics new guys is that they held their own against Charlotte for three quarters.  Charlotte had the advantage, experience wise, with players who had been with the NBA team last year.

[Surferdad]

One positive for the Celtics new guys is that they held their own against Charlotte for three quarters.  Charlotte had the advantage, experience wise, with players who had been with the NBA team last year.

You mean OKC, but yeah.  They actually looked "coached" on defense.

[thirstyboots18]

One positive for the Celtics new guys is that they held their own against Charlotte for three quarters.  Charlotte had the advantage, experience wise, with players who had been with the NBA team last year.

You mean OKC, but yeah.  They actually looked "coached" on defense.

Whoops    Brain cramp.  Yes, Austin Ainge is gaining in reputation as a good coach.  He did a commendable job for the Red Claws this year, and coached last year's Summer League team, too. 

[Chris]

He looks like Ryan Gomes...except shorter, slower, and with a much more blockable jump shot.  I think he could find a spot in the league (at the end of the bench), but unless he fixes that shot, I don't think he is going to do too much.

[dobbs]

If he has another game tonight like he did yesterday, can we christen him... HaranGOD?  I'll take payment in Tommy Points if the name sticks.  I lost them all wagering on the C's to win the finals. 

In all seriousness though, it's summer league.  The first step to showing that you're even AVAILABLE to play a couple minutes in an NBA game is to show that you can not only play well, but be head and shoulders above the competition in summer league.  If you're a capable NBA player, you should dominate and post very good #s in SL.  With a 1 game sample, HaranGOD was able to do that.  Let's see what he brings tonight.

[clover]

If he has another game tonight like he did yesterday, can we christen him... HaranGOD?  I'll take payment in Tommy Points if the name sticks.  I lost them all wagering on the C's to win the finals. 

In all seriousness though, it's summer league.  The first step to showing that you're even AVAILABLE to play a couple minutes in an NBA game is to show that you can not only play well, but be head and shoulders above the competition in summer league.  If you're a capable NBA player, you should dominate and post very good #s in SL.  With a 1 game sample, HaranGOD was able to do that.  Let's see what he brings tonight.

Fair enough for the small to middling-sized guys, and Harangody passed for game one at least.

[Andy Jick]

...except shorter, slower, and with a much more blockable jump shot.

LOL...That's like saying, "well, she has a nice personality..."

[wiley]

He looks like Ryan Gomes...except shorter, slower, and with a much more blockable jump shot.  I think he could find a spot in the league (at the end of the bench), but unless he fixes that shot, I don't think he is going to do too much.

As a catch and shoot shooter, why would his shot be more blockable than Barbosa's or Marion's?
Do you think he's not fast enough to get as open as those guys?

[dobbs]

Actually, if you watch his form in frame by frame, it's fine.  It's his follow through that looks totally spastic and off the wall.  But the ball comes off his hand like a normal jumpshot, just a lower trajectory and obviously lower elevation.

[hwangjini_1]

Actually, if you watch his form in frame by frame, it's fine.  It's his follow through that looks totally spastic and off the wall.  But the ball comes off his hand like a normal jumpshot, just a lower trajectory and obviously lower elevation.

Which may prove to be his downfall to making it in the NBA. If harangody can consistenly make set 3 pointers he might have a chance in the league since he is strong, smart, passes well, and works hard.  But his 3 point shot release is low and the ball trajectory is flat.  This means a defender can block the shot if he can close on harangody quickly enough.

Think of Ray allen's shot. He gets good elevation, has a high release, and the ball has a high trajectory so he can get his shots off even with a defender in his face. How many shots did we see Ray make that were just a few inches over a defender's fingers?

With harangody, that same defender blocks the shot.

I would welcome the thoughts of other cbers on this.

[ScoobyDoo]

I'd be very slow to discount guys like Harangody. I'm sure he was told coming out of high school that he'd have major touble competiting at the Division I level from an athleticism standpoint, he'd be too slow, etc...he then goes on to become the 2nd all time scorer, 3rd all time rebounder in the Big east and the only player to ever elad the league in both scoring and reboudnign the same year...

I'm not saying he will have anywhere near that success in the NBA, but...

Guys like Harangody continue to excel because they know how to get the job done, they figure out "some way" to impact the game.

He'll never be much defensively, but I think he can be a decent scoring threat off the bench, a a decent 8th or 9th man.

And if defenses close in on him too quickly I noticed he does have the ability to put the ball on the floor a little for a pull up mid range shot.

Dont' count him out too quickly...

[Evantime34]

Actually, if you watch his form in frame by frame, it's fine.  It's his follow through that looks totally spastic and off the wall.  But the ball comes off his hand like a normal jumpshot, just a lower trajectory and obviously lower elevation.

Which may prove to be his downfall to making it in the NBA. If harangody can consistenly make set 3 pointers he might have a chance in the league since he is strong, smart, passes well, and works hard.  But his 3 point shot release is low and the ball trajectory is flat.  This means a defender can block the shot if he can close on harangody quickly enough.

Think of Ray allen's shot. He gets good elevation, has a high release, and the ball has a high trajectory so he can get his shots off even with a defender in his face. How many shots did we see Ray make that were just a few inches over a defender's fingers?

With harangody, that same defender blocks the shot.

I would welcome the thoughts of other cbers on this.

Ray Allen is a shooter that defender's never help off. Harangody will find space and hit 3's when his defender helps off him. Gody will not be taking many contested 3's which is why his shot is less likely to get blocked.

[jdpapa3]

Actually, if you watch his form in frame by frame, it's fine.  It's his follow through that looks totally spastic and off the wall.  But the ball comes off his hand like a normal jumpshot, just a lower trajectory and obviously lower elevation.

Which may prove to be his downfall to making it in the NBA. If harangody can consistenly make set 3 pointers he might have a chance in the league since he is strong, smart, passes well, and works hard.  But his 3 point shot release is low and the ball trajectory is flat.  This means a defender can block the shot if he can close on harangody quickly enough.

Think of Ray allen's shot. He gets good elevation, has a high release, and the ball has a high trajectory so he can get his shots off even with a defender in his face. How many shots did we see Ray make that were just a few inches over a defender's fingers?

With harangody, that same defender blocks the shot.

I would welcome the thoughts of other cbers on this.

His release looks to be similarly low to Glen Davis's shot. Their opportunities should come in the same form: pick and pops and spot up opportunities off of driving. If you can drift all the way out to the 3 pt line, that's too much distance for a lot of defenders to cover.

I continue to believe his offense can work in the league. It's his guarding of 4's that I worry about.