Chris Haynes: There’s a growing belief Kyrie won’t resign in Boston

[RodyTur10]

again the million dollar question is.... who leaked this out

Rich Paul, because he needs New Orleans to believe that Boston will not put Tatum or Brown on the table.  The Lakers cannot win a bidding war in the summer with these assets.  If New Orleans waits till the summer, he almost certainly does not become a Laker.  Lebron needs a trade now, otherwise there's no AD.  This is pretty obvious.

Rich Paul leaks this and what Haynes nods his head and says thank you....let me share?

I can't see Haynes being that naive

Though if it came from Lebron (who recently spoke to Irving).... then I may worry a tad

That's exactly how this works, though. You play ball with agents so that they leak things to you later and you get to break news. That's how the game works.

and if it doesn't happen and Irving resign...stating it was his intention all along??

Haynes rep takes a little nosedive

Does it? That's the nature of the business - as a reporter, people are going to remember the stories you break more than speculation you got wrong. Case in point - you remembered he broke the Gordon Hayward news, but can you remember the last thing he said that didn't pan out?

And with the chemistry issues we've all seen, it's not far fetched to think Kyrie may second guess resigning here.

I think Irving is disappointed in the help he's getting.

Hayward and Horford aren't playing like All Stars (anymore). Brown, Tatum and Rozier haven't gotten better.  And overall there are chemistry issues and players who aren't satisfied with their roles and minutes. Still I believe he's focussed on a future with the Celtics, but that if things go really bad he will look at his options. Like he said, he isn't comfortable being part of a 5th best team in the conference.

[smokeablount]

The quick way to solve this is just to go to Kyrie and ask him. If he wants to be traded, trade him now and keep it moving. Ainge has enough assets and young talent to move on.

I would try to get Beal
I would try to get Poetl and Murray from the Spurs
I would try to get Holiday and Randle

If Kyrie really wants to go back and play with Bron he is a fool.

LA isn't his only option, you know that right? New York can trade for AD and he can just go there as an FA and play with his buddy. I think ultimately, Kyrie wants to play for a fanbase that appreciates him, for whatever reason Boston fans seem to hate him.

I'm seeing that this is becoming a narrative in your posts, I assume in frustration with the Kyrie trolls that many of us have found to be quite annoying.  But that statement is far from accurate.  I go to most home games and Kyrie gets cheers at loud as IT got during player intros and no one else has been comparable to those 2 in my 3 years.  Not Horford, Tatum, or Hayward, aside from when they showed him in a hospital bed.

There is a small swath of delusional fans here who don't like him.  But as a larger group, "Boston fans" actually tend to shout 'MVP!' when he shoots free throws.

[gouki88]

The quick way to solve this is just to go to Kyrie and ask him. If he wants to be traded, trade him now and keep it moving. Ainge has enough assets and young talent to move on.

I would try to get Beal
I would try to get Poetl and Murray from the Spurs
I would try to get Holiday and Randle

If Kyrie really wants to go back and play with Bron he is a fool.

LA isn't his only option, you know that right? New York can trade for AD and he can just go there as an FA and play with his buddy. I think ultimately, Kyrie wants to play for a fanbase that appreciates him, for whatever reason Boston fans seem to hate him.

I'm seeing that this is becoming a narrative in your posts, I assume in frustration with the Kyrie trolls that many of us have found to be quite annoying.  But that statement is far from accurate.  I go to most home games and Kyrie gets cheers at loud as IT got during player intros and no one else has been comparable to those 2 in my 3 years.  Not Horford, Tatum, or Hayward, aside from when they showed him in a hospital bed.

There is a small swath of delusional fans here who don't like him.  But as a larger group, "Boston fans" actually tend to shout 'MVP!' when he shoots free throws.

I think the annoyingly vocal minority has changed what people think - me included. However, RJ's response was directly to a very vocal anti-Kyrie guy.

[Roy H.]

The quick way to solve this is just to go to Kyrie and ask him. If he wants to be traded, trade him now and keep it moving. Ainge has enough assets and young talent to move on.

I would try to get Beal
I would try to get Poetl and Murray from the Spurs
I would try to get Holiday and Randle

If Kyrie really wants to go back and play with Bron he is a fool.

LA isn't his only option, you know that right? New York can trade for AD and he can just go there as an FA and play with his buddy. I think ultimately, Kyrie wants to play for a fanbase that appreciates him, for whatever reason Boston fans seem to hate him.

I'm seeing that this is becoming a narrative in your posts, I assume in frustration with the Kyrie trolls that many of us have found to be quite annoying.  But that statement is far from accurate.  I go to most home games and Kyrie gets cheers at loud as IT got during player intros and no one else has been comparable to those 2 in my 3 years.  Not Horford, Tatum, or Hayward, aside from when they showed him in a hospital bed.

There is a small swath of delusional fans here who don't like him.  But as a larger group, "Boston fans" actually tend to shout 'MVP!' when he shoots free throws.

I think the annoyingly vocal minority has changed what people think - me included. However, RJ's response was directly to a very vocal anti-Kyrie guy.

Yeah, without naming names, five idiots can make a lot of noise on a message board, but in the real world their influence is infinitesimally small.

[RJ87]

The quick way to solve this is just to go to Kyrie and ask him. If he wants to be traded, trade him now and keep it moving. Ainge has enough assets and young talent to move on.

I would try to get Beal
I would try to get Poetl and Murray from the Spurs
I would try to get Holiday and Randle

If Kyrie really wants to go back and play with Bron he is a fool.

LA isn't his only option, you know that right? New York can trade for AD and he can just go there as an FA and play with his buddy. I think ultimately, Kyrie wants to play for a fanbase that appreciates him, for whatever reason Boston fans seem to hate him.

I'm seeing that this is becoming a narrative in your posts, I assume in frustration with the Kyrie trolls that many of us have found to be quite annoying.  But that statement is far from accurate.  I go to most home games and Kyrie gets cheers at loud as IT got during player intros and no one else has been comparable to those 2 in my 3 years.  Not Horford, Tatum, or Hayward, aside from when they showed him in a hospital bed.

There is a small swath of delusional fans here who don't like him.  But as a larger group, "Boston fans" actually tend to shout 'MVP!' when he shoots free throws.

I think the annoyingly vocal minority has changed what people think - me included. However, RJ's response was directly to a very vocal anti-Kyrie guy.

Pretty accurate. I tend to go for the hyperbole to counteract all the garbage I read here. I figure it all balances out somehow.

[RodyTur10]

With or without Kyrie, this team is a contender.

When was the last time a team with the talent profile of the Celts minus Kyrie ever made the Finals, let alone came close to winning a title?

We CaMe WiThIn OnE gAmE oF tHe FiNaLs

That was because the East was ridiculously weak last year. Just look at how that Cavs team is doing without LeBron.

The Celtics aren't contenders the next two years without Irving (or another All Star).

[smokeablount]

I think PhoSita nailed it.

The whole paragraph reads: "Regarding team preferences, Boston is not a top target for Davis, sources said. There’s a growing belief of uncertainty that Kyrie Irving will re-sign with Boston, sources said, even though he vowed to do so at the beginning of the season."

So there's 2 things there, both attributed to "sources." Different sources? The same sources? Who knows but it reads to me like the "growing belief of uncertainty ()" is coming from people around Davis, not people connected, in any way, to the Celtics.

Assuming New Orleans doesn't blow this and waits until the offseason to do a deal, by that time the Kyrie thing won't be any issue anymore.

We'll see what AD and Kyrie's conversations at the all star game look like.

Aren't Giannis and Lebron the captains?  Giannis needs to pick AD before Lebron does, and then take Kyrie with his 2nd pick.  That would make me a big Giannis fan!

[RJ87]

With or without Kyrie, this team is a contender.

When was the last time a team with the talent profile of the Celts minus Kyrie ever made the Finals, let alone came close to winning a title?

We CaMe WiThIn OnE gAmE oF tHe FiNaLs

That was because the East was ridiculously weak last year. Just look at how that Cavs team is doing without LeBron.

The Celtics aren't contenders the next two years without Irving (or another All Star).

I was being sarcastic. One game away does not make a Finals appearance, but other posters will declare it as proof that we don't need Kyrie.

[smokeablount]

The quick way to solve this is just to go to Kyrie and ask him. If he wants to be traded, trade him now and keep it moving. Ainge has enough assets and young talent to move on.

I would try to get Beal
I would try to get Poetl and Murray from the Spurs
I would try to get Holiday and Randle

If Kyrie really wants to go back and play with Bron he is a fool.

LA isn't his only option, you know that right? New York can trade for AD and he can just go there as an FA and play with his buddy. I think ultimately, Kyrie wants to play for a fanbase that appreciates him, for whatever reason Boston fans seem to hate him.

I'm seeing that this is becoming a narrative in your posts, I assume in frustration with the Kyrie trolls that many of us have found to be quite annoying.  But that statement is far from accurate.  I go to most home games and Kyrie gets cheers at loud as IT got during player intros and no one else has been comparable to those 2 in my 3 years.  Not Horford, Tatum, or Hayward, aside from when they showed him in a hospital bed.

There is a small swath of delusional fans here who don't like him.  But as a larger group, "Boston fans" actually tend to shout 'MVP!' when he shoots free throws.

I think the annoyingly vocal minority has changed what people think - me included. However, RJ's response was directly to a very vocal anti-Kyrie guy.

Pretty accurate. I tend to go for the hyperbole to counteract all the garbage I read here. I figure it all balances out somehow.

Makes sense.  I'm willing to admit they've gotten under my skin and I haven't invested nearly as much time reasoning with them as others have.  I dislike seeing quality posters mention considerations of transitioning to Celtics Reddit, with all of its subpar information, because a few posters are driving everyone crazy.  But what can ya do, I guess.

[gouki88]

With or without Kyrie, this team is a contender.

When was the last time a team with the talent profile of the Celts minus Kyrie ever made the Finals, let alone came close to winning a title?

We CaMe WiThIn OnE gAmE oF tHe FiNaLs

That was because the East was ridiculously weak last year. Just look at how that Cavs team is doing without LeBron.

The Celtics aren't contenders the next two years without Irving (or another All Star).

I was being sarcastic. One game away does not make a Finals appearance, but other posters will declare it as proof that we don't need Kyrie.

I fondly remember the numerous topics talking about how we no longer needed Kyrie, because we had the formidable Scary Terry

[celticinorlando]

I'm not sure who "hates" Kyrie. I love watching him play. Do not under any circumstances him leaving Boston. They are 10 times better with him than they would be without him.

To me securing him in the offseason is priority #1.

[RodyTur10]

The quick way to solve this is just to go to Kyrie and ask him. If he wants to be traded, trade him now and keep it moving. Ainge has enough assets and young talent to move on.

I would try to get Beal
I would try to get Poetl and Murray from the Spurs
I would try to get Holiday and Randle

If Kyrie really wants to go back and play with Bron he is a fool.

LA isn't his only option, you know that right? New York can trade for AD and he can just go there as an FA and play with his buddy. I think ultimately, Kyrie wants to play for a fanbase that appreciates him, for whatever reason Boston fans seem to hate him.

I'm seeing that this is becoming a narrative in your posts, I assume in frustration with the Kyrie trolls that many of us have found to be quite annoying.  But that statement is far from accurate.  I go to most home games and Kyrie gets cheers at loud as IT got during player intros and no one else has been comparable to those 2 in my 3 years.  Not Horford, Tatum, or Hayward, aside from when they showed him in a hospital bed.

There is a small swath of delusional fans here who don't like him.  But as a larger group, "Boston fans" actually tend to shout 'MVP!' when he shoots free throws.

I think the annoyingly vocal minority has changed what people think - me included. However, RJ's response was directly to a very vocal anti-Kyrie guy.

Yeah, without naming names, five idiots can make a lot of noise on a message board, but in the real world their influence is infinitesimally small.

I love Kyrie Irving and I'm firmly in his camp. And I agree that keeping him should be our top priority. He's our most important player to build around. More important even than Tatum or Brown.

However I don't think you should refer to non-believers as 'idiots'. Even if they are annoying sometimes.

[gouki88]

The quick way to solve this is just to go to Kyrie and ask him. If he wants to be traded, trade him now and keep it moving. Ainge has enough assets and young talent to move on.

I would try to get Beal
I would try to get Poetl and Murray from the Spurs
I would try to get Holiday and Randle

If Kyrie really wants to go back and play with Bron he is a fool.

LA isn't his only option, you know that right? New York can trade for AD and he can just go there as an FA and play with his buddy. I think ultimately, Kyrie wants to play for a fanbase that appreciates him, for whatever reason Boston fans seem to hate him.

I'm seeing that this is becoming a narrative in your posts, I assume in frustration with the Kyrie trolls that many of us have found to be quite annoying.  But that statement is far from accurate.  I go to most home games and Kyrie gets cheers at loud as IT got during player intros and no one else has been comparable to those 2 in my 3 years.  Not Horford, Tatum, or Hayward, aside from when they showed him in a hospital bed.

There is a small swath of delusional fans here who don't like him.  But as a larger group, "Boston fans" actually tend to shout 'MVP!' when he shoots free throws.

I think the annoyingly vocal minority has changed what people think - me included. However, RJ's response was directly to a very vocal anti-Kyrie guy.

Yeah, without naming names, five idiots can make a lot of noise on a message board, but in the real world their influence is infinitesimally small.

I love Kyrie Irving and I'm firmly in his camp.

However I don't think you should refer to non-believers as 'idiots'.

There have been almost innumerable Kyrie-related takes I’d describe as idiotic without hesitation

[tazzmaniac]

I think PhoSita nailed it.

The whole paragraph reads: "Regarding team preferences, Boston is not a top target for Davis, sources said. There’s a growing belief of uncertainty that Kyrie Irving will re-sign with Boston, sources said, even though he vowed to do so at the beginning of the season."

So there's 2 things there, both attributed to "sources." Different sources? The same sources? Who knows but it reads to me like the "growing belief of uncertainty ()" is coming from people around Davis, not people connected, in any way, to the Celtics.

Assuming New Orleans doesn't blow this and waits until the offseason to do a deal, by that time the Kyrie thing won't be any issue anymore.

We'll see what AD and Kyrie's conversations at the all star game look like.

Aren't Giannis and Lebron the captains?  Giannis needs to pick AD before Lebron does, and then take Kyrie with his 2nd pick.  That would make me a big Giannis fan!

AD wasn't voted in as a starter so he'll probably end up being the 1st reserve pick.  I think Lebron getting the most votes goes 1st picking the staters and Giannis goes 1st picking the reserves. 

[RodyTur10]

The quick way to solve this is just to go to Kyrie and ask him. If he wants to be traded, trade him now and keep it moving. Ainge has enough assets and young talent to move on.

I would try to get Beal
I would try to get Poetl and Murray from the Spurs
I would try to get Holiday and Randle

If Kyrie really wants to go back and play with Bron he is a fool.

LA isn't his only option, you know that right? New York can trade for AD and he can just go there as an FA and play with his buddy. I think ultimately, Kyrie wants to play for a fanbase that appreciates him, for whatever reason Boston fans seem to hate him.

I'm seeing that this is becoming a narrative in your posts, I assume in frustration with the Kyrie trolls that many of us have found to be quite annoying.  But that statement is far from accurate.  I go to most home games and Kyrie gets cheers at loud as IT got during player intros and no one else has been comparable to those 2 in my 3 years.  Not Horford, Tatum, or Hayward, aside from when they showed him in a hospital bed.

There is a small swath of delusional fans here who don't like him.  But as a larger group, "Boston fans" actually tend to shout 'MVP!' when he shoots free throws.

I think the annoyingly vocal minority has changed what people think - me included. However, RJ's response was directly to a very vocal anti-Kyrie guy.

Yeah, without naming names, five idiots can make a lot of noise on a message board, but in the real world their influence is infinitesimally small.

I love Kyrie Irving and I'm firmly in his camp.

However I don't think you should refer to non-believers as 'idiots'.

There have been almost innumerable Kyrie-related takes I’d describe as idiotic without hesitation

Good for you, always being honest  . TP.

But different opinions keep the forum interesting.