Chris Haynes: There’s a growing belief Kyrie won’t resign in Boston

[Chief Macho]

would  kyrie for the new york first be enough? probably not.  Zinger?  i could live with another top lottery pick for him.  just keep the focus on tatum time.

New York will save assets for Anthony Davis. They'll have cap to sign Kyrie as an FA if he's interested.

probably correct.. ugh.   danny did all this and i get the feeling the rose rule might ruin it all

[jpotter33]

So we're just gonna ignore all of the times when Kyrie talks about playing with this team for years to come? 

This is straight from Kyrie's mouth, by the way... time after time, and quite recently at that.  Not some "growing belief" shared by "sources". 

Look, he may or may not sign here.  Anything is possible until he officially re-signs.  But so many people are choosing to believe these rumors - and whether Haynes is generally credible or not, that's what this is - over something the player himself said with zero ambiguity. 

Waste of time, IMO.

Yeah, I mean, this is really about as obvious of a ploy as possible. And the thing is, this happens every single trade deadline and draft day, yet people still fall for it lol

[RJ87]

I think PhoSita nailed it.

The whole paragraph reads: "Regarding team preferences, Boston is not a top target for Davis, sources said. There’s a growing belief of uncertainty that Kyrie Irving will re-sign with Boston, sources said, even though he vowed to do so at the beginning of the season."

So there's 2 things there, both attributed to "sources." Different sources? The same sources? Who knows but it reads to me like the "growing belief of uncertainty ()" is coming from people around Davis, not people connected, in any way, to the Celtics.

Assuming New Orleans doesn't blow this and waits until the offseason to do a deal, by that time the Kyrie thing won't be any issue anymore.

We'll see what AD and Kyrie's conversations at the all star game look like.

I take reports like this with a grain of salt. However, Kyrie and AD are friends off the court. It stands to reason AD might have some insight into Kyrie's thinking.

With that said, I have no idea if he resigns or not.

[celticinorlando]

With or without Kyrie, this team is a contender.

Hayward, Tatum and Jaylen. Horford and Rozier. Smart. That is a very good group of players. And would be a lot of fun to watch. Lots of draft picks and opportunities to improve in near future too.

$35M/year Hayward putting up 2 points per game is not fun though. And I'm not sure about having Rozier as a future starting PG for Boston.

Unfortunately they are stuck with Hayward and that deal. The hope is this year he can get all the doubt and timidness out of his system and come back next season looking more like he did in Utah.

But AD and Kyrie ending up together in New York would be a kick in the nuts.

[KGBirdBias]

The Celtics are in the best position. They dont have to panic and do something stupid. Kyrie may try and pull a power move and get Steven's canned in order to stay.

I would gladly take Porzinigis and Hardaway for Kyrie.

Kyrie said he wanted his own team and now he has it but if that's not good enough, move him now. To be honest I think this story is BS and trying to cause dissension within the Celtics and have them make a move with Kyrie. Rich Paul is the culprit.

[ozgod]

With or without Kyrie, this team is a contender.

Hayward, Tatum and Jaylen. Horford and Rozier. Smart. That is a very good group of players. And would be a lot of fun to watch. Lots of draft picks and opportunities to improve in near future too.

$35M/year Hayward putting up 2 points per game is not fun though. And I'm not sure about having Rozier as a future starting PG for Boston.

Unfortunately they are stuck with Hayward and that deal. The hope is this year he can get all the doubt and timidness out of his system and come back next season looking more like he did in Utah.

But AD and Kyrie ending up together in New York would be a kick in the nuts.

If Hayward were to be traded it would probably be next year sometime when he's shows signs of consistency. Right now nobody will take him because they don't know if he will ever get back to his Utah level of performance.

[bknova]

This is all a ploy to scare New Orleans into making a deal right now while the Lakers have the opportunity to put the best deal on the table. That is it.

If you're reading further into this, I can't save you from all the sleepless nights and nonsensical debates you are going to have from now till July 1st.

[PhoSita]

With or without Kyrie, this team is a contender.

When was the last time a team with the talent profile of the Celts minus Kyrie ever made the Finals, let alone came close to winning a title?

[gouki88]

The Celtics are in the best position. They dont have to panic and do something stupid. Kyrie may try and pull a power move and get Steven's canned in order to stay.

I would gladly take Porzinigis and Hardaway for Kyrie.

Kyrie said he wanted his own team and now he has it but if that's not good enough, move him now. To be honest I think this story is BS and trying to cause dissension within the Celtics and have them make a move with Kyrie. Rich Paul is the culprit.

I can’t imagine why NYK would trade for him when they could likely just sign him in the offseason 

[RJ87]

With or without Kyrie, this team is a contender.

When was the last time a team with the talent profile of the Celts minus Kyrie ever made the Finals, let alone came close to winning a title?

We CaMe WiThIn OnE gAmE oF tHe FiNaLs

[PhoSita]

Who else is excited for long-term starting PG Terry Rozier??

Honestly I'd rather sign and trade him this summer and give a short term deal to like ... Darren Collison.


Actually, the smarter move would probably be to re-sign Rozier and then try to trade him within a year for future assets.

[Big333223]

I think PhoSita nailed it.

The whole paragraph reads: "Regarding team preferences, Boston is not a top target for Davis, sources said. There’s a growing belief of uncertainty that Kyrie Irving will re-sign with Boston, sources said, even though he vowed to do so at the beginning of the season."

So there's 2 things there, both attributed to "sources." Different sources? The same sources? Who knows but it reads to me like the "growing belief of uncertainty ()" is coming from people around Davis, not people connected, in any way, to the Celtics.

Assuming New Orleans doesn't blow this and waits until the offseason to do a deal, by that time the Kyrie thing won't be any issue anymore.

We'll see what AD and Kyrie's conversations at the all star game look like.

I take reports like this with a grain of salt. However, Kyrie and AD are friends off the court. It stands to reason AD might have some insight into Kyrie's thinking.

With that said, I have no idea if he resigns or not.

For sure. But there's basically no chance that Davis is one the "sources" Haynes is talking about.

That's the problem with this kind of reporting. Maybe Anthony Davis' cousin said, "I don't think Kyrie is coming back to Boston next year" and that gets reported as "sources close to Davis yada yada yada." The actual report might not be untrue but what is actually being reported is nothing.

[Who]

With or without Kyrie, this team is a contender.

When was the last time a team with the talent profile of the Celts minus Kyrie ever made the Finals, let alone came close to winning a title?

Hard to compare this team to anyone directly ... but it would be more along the lines of the 2004 Pistons or 1979 Sonics. A team that wins based on balance.

If Hayward gets back to somewhere near his best, they will have 4 players who are top 10 to top 5 players at their respective positions. Plus Smart and Rozier. That is a very talented basketball team.

[RJ87]

I think PhoSita nailed it.

The whole paragraph reads: "Regarding team preferences, Boston is not a top target for Davis, sources said. There’s a growing belief of uncertainty that Kyrie Irving will re-sign with Boston, sources said, even though he vowed to do so at the beginning of the season."

So there's 2 things there, both attributed to "sources." Different sources? The same sources? Who knows but it reads to me like the "growing belief of uncertainty ()" is coming from people around Davis, not people connected, in any way, to the Celtics.

Assuming New Orleans doesn't blow this and waits until the offseason to do a deal, by that time the Kyrie thing won't be any issue anymore.

We'll see what AD and Kyrie's conversations at the all star game look like.

I take reports like this with a grain of salt. However, Kyrie and AD are friends off the court. It stands to reason AD might have some insight into Kyrie's thinking.

With that said, I have no idea if he resigns or not.

For sure. But there's basically no chance that Davis is one the "sources" Haynes is talking about.

That's the problem with this kind of reporting. Maybe Anthony Davis' cousin said, "I don't think Kyrie is coming back to Boston next year" and that gets reported as "sources close to Davis yada yada yada." The actual report might not be untrue but what is actually being reported is nothing.

Or more realistically: when Rich Paul asked Davis which teams he'd like to go to so he could give the list to the Pelicans, AD said "Boston? Eh. Kyrie isn't sure he's staying." And Rich Paul feeds that to Chris Haynes.

Again. I'm not saying I buy in to the report, but it doesn't require that much acrobatics.

[Big333223]

I think PhoSita nailed it.

The whole paragraph reads: "Regarding team preferences, Boston is not a top target for Davis, sources said. There’s a growing belief of uncertainty that Kyrie Irving will re-sign with Boston, sources said, even though he vowed to do so at the beginning of the season."

So there's 2 things there, both attributed to "sources." Different sources? The same sources? Who knows but it reads to me like the "growing belief of uncertainty ()" is coming from people around Davis, not people connected, in any way, to the Celtics.

Assuming New Orleans doesn't blow this and waits until the offseason to do a deal, by that time the Kyrie thing won't be any issue anymore.

We'll see what AD and Kyrie's conversations at the all star game look like.

I take reports like this with a grain of salt. However, Kyrie and AD are friends off the court. It stands to reason AD might have some insight into Kyrie's thinking.

With that said, I have no idea if he resigns or not.

For sure. But there's basically no chance that Davis is one the "sources" Haynes is talking about.

That's the problem with this kind of reporting. Maybe Anthony Davis' cousin said, "I don't think Kyrie is coming back to Boston next year" and that gets reported as "sources close to Davis yada yada yada." The actual report might not be untrue but what is actually being reported is nothing.

Or more realistically: when Rich Paul asked Davis which teams he'd like to go to so he could give the list to the Pelicans, AD said "Boston? Eh. Kyrie isn't sure he's staying." And Rich Paul feeds that to Chris Haynes.

Again. I'm not saying I buy in to the report, but it doesn't require that much acrobatics.

I don't think that's more realistic. I think if anything had ever actually come out of AD's mouth, the reporting wouldn't be so vague.