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Re: Official 2015-16 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-15, 3rd slot as of 12/6)
« Reply #1425 on: December 08, 2015, 10:13:06 PM »

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On the plus side, although the Nets host Philly and Minnesota, the rest of their next ten or so games look quite losable.

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Minnesota, while inexperienced, is considerably better than Brooklyn. I also wouldn't assume that the Nets are going to beat the Sixers.

I really, really hope you are right. Got excited at the beginning of the year, so I'm a little more conservative now. And despite the fact that this Nets team looks horrendous on paper, they somehow seem to be able to pull it off. I know, with RHJ out and Lopez + JJ playing 39 minutes per night, it can't last. But they've definitely done better than I thought they would.

The only other plus I see this year is that the top of the draft is very strong at 3 and 5, at least as things stand now. I think we're still looking at a top-7 pick. Reasonable worst case scenario is that somebody is teaching Tommy how to pronounce "Poeltl."

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TP for that bit at the end :). I don't expect Brooklyn to fall to both Philly and Minny, but if I had to bet, I'd say they lose one of the two. And yes, the minutes that their old/injury prone guys are getting seem pretty unsustainable. I'm still confident that this is a top 5 pick pre-lottery, then we'll see how the lotto balls bounce.
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Re: Official 2015-16 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-15, 3rd slot as of 12/6)
« Reply #1426 on: December 08, 2015, 10:14:22 PM »

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 I love the mass overreactions everytime the Nets win. Last time I checked they are still the second worst eastern conference team in the east, and it is looking to stay that way barring major injuries.

So far the Nets pick could be anywhere from 3 to 7 pick.

Re: Official 2015-16 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-15, 3rd slot as of 12/6)
« Reply #1427 on: December 08, 2015, 10:23:38 PM »

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I love the mass overreactions everytime the Nets win. Last time I checked they are still the second worst eastern conference team in the east, and it is looking to stay that way barring major injuries.

So far the Nets pick could be anywhere from 3 to 7 pick.

But it's also the team that has had the second hardest strength of schedule so far this year.

http://espn.go.com/nba/stats/rpi/_/sort/SOS

I've got the Nets pick at 4-8 this year. I don't think there's any overreaction when the Nets win, though. Ex-injuries, they're better than many thought they would be.

Mike

Re: Official 2015-16 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-15, 3rd slot as of 12/6)
« Reply #1428 on: December 08, 2015, 10:43:26 PM »

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I love the mass overreactions everytime the Nets win. Last time I checked they are still the second worst eastern conference team in the east, and it is looking to stay that way barring major injuries.

So far the Nets pick could be anywhere from 3 to 7 pick.

But it's also the team that has had the second hardest strength of schedule so far this year.

http://espn.go.com/nba/stats/rpi/_/sort/SOS

I've got the Nets pick at 4-8 this year. I don't think there's any overreaction when the Nets win, though. Ex-injuries, they're better than many thought they would be.

Mike

The Blazers are better than people thought they would be, so are the Timberwolves and the Hornets. The Pelicans may turn it around now that they are healthy. Schedule aside, in order to reach 8th worst team, the Nets will have to be .500 all the way, do you really believe that'll happen especially when RHJ is out?

Re: Official 2015-16 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-15, 3rd slot as of 12/6)
« Reply #1429 on: December 08, 2015, 10:49:08 PM »

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I think Brooklyn still finishes with the third worst record overall. I think philly and La are worse then them but that's it. Teams like Milwaukee, Sacramento and NO all have more talent and likely won't finish with worse records. At some point Brooklyn's lack of depth is going to become more of a factor.

Lopez young and Johnson will start to wear down.


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Re: Official 2015-16 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-15, 3rd slot as of 12/6)
« Reply #1430 on: December 08, 2015, 11:00:19 PM »

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I think Brooklyn still finishes with the third worst record overall. I think philly and La are worse then them but that's it. Teams like Milwaukee, Sacramento and NO all have more talent and likely won't finish with worse records. At some point Brooklyn's lack of depth is going to become more of a factor.

Lopez young and Johnson will start to wear down.

It did play a factor in some of the games they'd played.

Re: Official 2015-16 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-15, 4th slot as of 12/8)
« Reply #1431 on: December 09, 2015, 12:02:54 AM »

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Harden with 3 shots and 4 points in the first half?
AND they're missing Hollis Jefferson. Lol.

The good news is that they are still on track for 22-24 wins which will easily get us the 4th pick and 50/50 at the 3rd pick.
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Re: Official 2015-16 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-15, 3rd slot as of 12/6)
« Reply #1432 on: December 09, 2015, 12:35:07 AM »

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I think Brooklyn still finishes with the third worst record overall. I think philly and La are worse then them but that's it. Teams like Milwaukee, Sacramento and NO all have more talent and likely won't finish with worse records. At some point Brooklyn's lack of depth is going to become more of a factor.

Lopez young and Johnson will start to wear down.

It's basically going to take a season ending injury to one of:

Sacto- Cousins
Blazers-Lilliard
Pelicans-Anthony Davis (and they're still better than Brooklyn with their core guys all back).
Wolves-Rubio
Nuggets - Gallinari
Knicks-Carmelo

The last two are the most likely.
Brooklyn also needs Lopez and Thad Young to stay healthy.

And yes, you're correct that they're the 3rd worst team.
"We are lucky we have a very patient GM that isn't willing to settle for being good and coming close. He wants to win a championship and we have the potential to get there still with our roster and assets."

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Re: Official 2015-16 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-15, 3rd slot as of 12/6)
« Reply #1433 on: December 09, 2015, 12:39:53 AM »

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I love the mass overreactions everytime the Nets win. Last time I checked they are still the second worst eastern conference team in the east, and it is looking to stay that way barring major injuries.

So far the Nets pick could be anywhere from 3 to 7 pick.

But it's also the team that has had the second hardest strength of schedule so far this year.

http://espn.go.com/nba/stats/rpi/_/sort/SOS

I've got the Nets pick at 4-8 this year. I don't think there's any overreaction when the Nets win, though. Ex-injuries, they're better than many thought they would be.

Mike

One thing to keep in mind is that a lot of the predictions are based on the fact that their slow paced, bangin' inside system is much more suited to winning games at the start of the season while other teams are out of shape or adjusting ie Wizards, Bucks, Detroit just in the East.
As teams get more in game shape and 'systematic', this grit/grind style will be less effective as trams can literally run them off the floor.

Just let the minutes on Lopez and JJ add up :)
"We are lucky we have a very patient GM that isn't willing to settle for being good and coming close. He wants to win a championship and we have the potential to get there still with our roster and assets."

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Re: Official 2015-16 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-15, 3rd slot as of 12/6)
« Reply #1434 on: December 09, 2015, 09:00:45 AM »

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I love the mass overreactions everytime the Nets win. Last time I checked they are still the second worst eastern conference team in the east, and it is looking to stay that way barring major injuries.

So far the Nets pick could be anywhere from 3 to 7 pick.

But it's also the team that has had the second hardest strength of schedule so far this year.

http://espn.go.com/nba/stats/rpi/_/sort/SOS

I've got the Nets pick at 4-8 this year. I don't think there's any overreaction when the Nets win, though. Ex-injuries, they're better than many thought they would be.

Mike

The Blazers are better than people thought they would be, so are the Timberwolves and the Hornets. The Pelicans may turn it around now that they are healthy. Schedule aside, in order to reach 8th worst team, the Nets will have to be .500 all the way, do you really believe that'll happen especially when RHJ is out?

I don't believe it's likely. I do believe that it's enough of a possibility that I have to consider it (as opposed to, say, their winning the whole thing, which is technically possible but just a bit on the unrealistic side). I've got LA and Philly definitely behind them. There's also a group of teams in the Phoenix, Denver, Sacramento, Portland crowd. I agree that New Orleans is past the worst of it. I don't think the 8th pick as a worst case scenario is too far off, although it definitely looks better with RHJ on the sideline. This team has simply won, or gotten really close in, games that I thought they didn't have a chance. Shame on me for having overestimated Houston, but those games against the Hawks, Pistons and Celtics should have been solidly in the L column.

I love the mass overreactions everytime the Nets win. Last time I checked they are still the second worst eastern conference team in the east, and it is looking to stay that way barring major injuries.

So far the Nets pick could be anywhere from 3 to 7 pick.

But it's also the team that has had the second hardest strength of schedule so far this year.

http://espn.go.com/nba/stats/rpi/_/sort/SOS

I've got the Nets pick at 4-8 this year. I don't think there's any overreaction when the Nets win, though. Ex-injuries, they're better than many thought they would be.

Mike

One thing to keep in mind is that a lot of the predictions are based on the fact that their slow paced, bangin' inside system is much more suited to winning games at the start of the season while other teams are out of shape or adjusting ie Wizards, Bucks, Detroit just in the East.
As teams get more in game shape and 'systematic', this grit/grind style will be less effective as trams can literally run them off the floor.

Just let the minutes on Lopez and JJ add up :)

That's likely where I'm going to miss. Lopez has looked unstoppable for the first quarter of the season, so it's hard to envision him looking soft by game 60. But with him and Joe Johnson leading the charge in terms of minutes played, one would think that something will eventually give. And I assure you, nobody would be happier than I would be if the Nets manage to pull off that #1 lottery slot.

Mike

Re: Official 2015-16 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-15, 4th slot as of 12/8)
« Reply #1435 on: December 09, 2015, 09:37:46 AM »

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The Nets are playing better than expected. However, I still believe they are an injury to Lopez, Young, Jack or Johnson away from a bottom tier team. Currently they are much closer to the second tier from the bottom than the worst tier.

As long as the C's can get into the top 5 in the draft I will be happy and even with everyone healthy I think the Nets are a bottom five team.
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Re: Official 2015-16 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-15, 4th slot as of 12/8)
« Reply #1436 on: December 09, 2015, 09:47:07 AM »

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The Nets are playing better than expected. However, I still believe they are an injury to Lopez, Young, Jack or Johnson away from a bottom tier team. Currently they are much closer to the second tier from the bottom than the worst tier.

As long as the C's can get into the top 5 in the draft I will be happy and even with everyone healthy I think the Nets are a bottom five team.

Me too.

Re: Official 2015-16 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-15, 4th slot as of 12/8)
« Reply #1437 on: December 09, 2015, 09:59:09 AM »

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Lopez is averaging 34:21 minutes per game.

Johnson is averaging 35:02 minutes per game.


Could become a factor in the second half of the season...especially during the dog days.


Re: Official 2015-16 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-15, 4th slot as of 12/8)
« Reply #1438 on: December 09, 2015, 10:06:15 AM »

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Lopez is averaging 34:21 minutes per game.

Johnson is averaging 35:02 minutes per game.


Could become a factor in the second half of the season...especially during the dog days.

how sustainable is Lopez gonna be after the all-star break? if he just misses 10 games, in those 10 games, what are the Net's record going to be?

Re: Official 2015-16 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-15, 4th slot as of 12/8)
« Reply #1439 on: December 09, 2015, 10:22:38 AM »

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The Nets are playing better than expected. However, I still believe they are an injury to Lopez, Young, Jack or Johnson away from a bottom tier team. Currently they are much closer to the second tier from the bottom than the worst tier.

As long as the C's can get into the top 5 in the draft I will be happy and even with everyone healthy I think the Nets are a bottom five team.

Me too.

Me three. As things stand now, with many, many games to go, Draft Express has the top 10 ranked like this:

Simmons (SF/PF)
Ingram (SF)
Skal (PF/C)
Bender (PF)
Dunn (PG)
Brown (SF)
Murray (PG/SG)
Ellenson (PF)
Poeltl (C)
Diallo (PF)

Our biggest positions of need are the 3 and the 5, which are well-represented (5/10) above. Throw in the 4 as a position of need and 8/10 qualify.

Obviously, the order will change between now and the end of the year, but that's looking pretty good for us.

Mike