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Re: Official 2015-16 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-15, 4th slot as of 12/8)
« Reply #1440 on: December 09, 2015, 11:08:06 AM »

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I think I've seen 4 different models and they all have BKN as finishing 3rd or 4th including ESPNs (see link below). The reality is all these win prediction models are based on average margin of victory  and may be adjusted for strength of schedule, etc.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/page/BPI-Playoff-Odds/espn-nba-basketball-power-index-playoff-odds.

And from an Insider piece on the Cs today:

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Scoring margin is often the most meaningful and predictive column in the standings, and it tells you more about what a team has done than its win-loss record. Early in the season, it's not uncommon for a team's W-L record to tell a very different story from its margin of victory.

Boston has the best scoring margin in the Eastern Conference, while Chicago's is just ninth best.

The Pythagorean method allows us to use points scored and allowed per game to project expected wins. Based on that, eight teams -- more than a quarter of the league -- have won either two more or two fewer games than we'd expect.

As you might expect, the Celtics are one of those teams [who has won two fewer than expected] There is another model that has them winning 3 less games than expected. In the end it tends to even out, but you can get teams like last years Nets who won a lot of close game, but should have won 33 games] outside that group.

There is another model that has the Cs winning 3 less games than expected. In the end it tends to even out, but you can get teams like last years Nets who won a lot of close game, but should have won 33 games. And if you looks at how well average margin of victory predicts how many games you win, it's clear that there's a decent correlation unlike many other factors.

The one problem with the models, however, is that the Nets have no incentive to tank and other teams above them may in the last month. OTOH, there are a lot of teams that look to be chasing the playoffs this year, there are teams out of the tanking business this season (like the T-Wolves), and there are fewer bottom dwellers like the Nets, Lakers, Sixers, and maybe Denver. The other favorable factor is that the Nets have been relatively injury free and have a very thin roster.

As for last night, I can't figure out what's wrong with Harden and the Rockets, but he's not the same guy who deserved the MVP last year for carrying that team. You're also not going to get 22 points out of Iso Joe Johnson many times going forward. His scoring average has fallen for the last 4 season including this year and his total shooting % which includes 2PFG, 3PFG, and FT% is 7% lower than his career average (which is also the league average). If he's not toast, at the age of 34 he's doing an outstanding impression of toast.

Re: Official 2015-16 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-15, 4th slot as of 12/8)
« Reply #1441 on: December 09, 2015, 03:15:15 PM »

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I think I've seen 4 different models and they all have BKN as finishing 3rd or 4th including ESPNs (see link below). The reality is all these win prediction models are based on average margin of victory  and may be adjusted for strength of schedule, etc.

You scared for me a sec...I thought you meant they would finish 3rd or 4th in the division.

  ;D

Re: Official 2015-16 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-15, 4th slot as of 12/8)
« Reply #1442 on: December 09, 2015, 03:17:19 PM »

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I think I've seen 4 different models and they all have BKN as finishing 3rd or 4th including ESPNs (see link below). The reality is all these win prediction models are based on average margin of victory  and may be adjusted for strength of schedule, etc.

You scared for me a sec...I thought you meant they would finish 3rd or 4th in the division.

  ;D

They probably will if you assume Philly's definitely worse and Toronto/Boston definitely better.

Re: Official 2015-16 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-15, 4th slot as of 12/8)
« Reply #1443 on: December 09, 2015, 09:47:32 PM »

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So Houston wins tonight on the road against Washington, and Harden scores like 40+ points. Why couldn't he do that last night when we needed him to. What a bum. How do you go from scoring 9 points and having 7 turnovers to a much worse team, to scoring 40+ the very next night against a much better team. I hate the Rockets.

Re: Official 2015-16 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-15, 4th slot as of 12/8)
« Reply #1444 on: December 10, 2015, 03:06:48 PM »

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Huge game tonight, 76ers vs Nets at 7:30 EST.

The 76ers just got blown out by the Spurs by 51 points and Boban Morjanovich of all people was making Okafor look like a 2nd rounder that game.

http://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2015/12/7/9869520/73-spurs-rookie-boban-marjanovic-fools-the-heck-out-of-jahlil-okafor

However, that was the first game that the 76ers had Colangelo and he seemed really ticked off at the end of that one.  I expect the 76ers to play as hard as they've played all year tonight.  The Nets are 7 point favorites and are playing at home, but the 76ers could really cause an upset.  This is their best chance to beat the Nets all year barring injuries or trades.

Re: Official 2015-16 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-15, 4th slot as of 12/8)
« Reply #1445 on: December 10, 2015, 03:20:28 PM »

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Huge game tonight, 76ers vs Nets at 7:30 EST.

The 76ers just got blown out by the Spurs by 51 points and Boban Morjanovich of all people was making Okafor look like a 2nd rounder that game.

http://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2015/12/7/9869520/73-spurs-rookie-boban-marjanovic-fools-the-heck-out-of-jahlil-okafor

However, that was the first game that the 76ers had Colangelo and he seemed really ticked off at the end of that one.  I expect the 76ers to play as hard as they've played all year tonight.  The Nets are 7 point favorites and are playing at home, but the 76ers could really cause an upset.  This is their best chance to beat the Nets all year barring injuries or trades.
I kind of have the same gut feeling that the Sixers might win this game.

Re: Official 2015-16 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-15, 4th slot as of 12/8)
« Reply #1446 on: December 10, 2015, 05:17:28 PM »

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Re: Official 2015-16 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-15, 4th slot as of 12/8)
« Reply #1447 on: December 10, 2015, 06:06:45 PM »

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Re: Official 2015-16 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-15, 4th slot as of 12/8)
« Reply #1448 on: December 10, 2015, 06:54:37 PM »

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another 20+pt loss for 6ers...
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Re: Official 2015-16 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-15, 4th slot as of 12/8)
« Reply #1449 on: December 10, 2015, 07:42:24 PM »

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Nets vs Sixers

This is a really tough game for LB33. He loves the Sixers, but wants the Nets to win so our pick isn't high.

Re: Official 2015-16 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-15, 4th slot as of 12/8)
« Reply #1450 on: December 10, 2015, 07:44:53 PM »

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Nets vs Sixers

This is a really tough game for LB33. He loves the Sixers, but wants the Nets to win so our pick isn't high.

A Sixers win would probably drop the Nets into oblivion from a moral standpoint... let's go Sixers!!

Re: Official 2015-16 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-15, 4th slot as of 12/8)
« Reply #1451 on: December 10, 2015, 07:46:20 PM »

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Re: Official 2015-16 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-15, 4th slot as of 12/8)
« Reply #1452 on: December 10, 2015, 07:47:56 PM »

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6ers are down 7-9, but they actually seem to be trying.  This looks promising......!

It's annoying though that Bogdanovich is all of a sudden 3x better than he was and playing better than RHJ. 

Re: Official 2015-16 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-15, 4th slot as of 12/8)
« Reply #1453 on: December 10, 2015, 07:50:51 PM »

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My first thought was "there are so many empty seats at this game," then I remembered it was 6ers Nets and thought, "actually, I'm surprised so many people are actually at this game."

Re: Official 2015-16 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-15, 4th slot as of 12/8)
« Reply #1454 on: December 10, 2015, 07:50:59 PM »

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Those Sixers fans masquerading as Celtics fans won't want Philly to win this one , get too close to the Lakers and screw up their 25% shot at Simmons. ;)