Official 2015-16 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (21-59, 3rd slot as of 4/12)

[chambers]

So Brooklyn has won 4 of their last 6 and has basically been playing .500 for the past month. 

Good news is that even if they were to play .500 for the remaining 60 games (which is probably an ambitious expectation given their lack of depth), they'd only finish with 37 wins (right about the same as last year when the made the playoffs).... which thanks to a surprisingly good Eastern Conference this season with several above .500 teams, 37 wins from Brooklyn would still net us a lotto pick... probably even top 10.

They are also 4 of their last 8 and the only team they've beaten above .500 in that 8 game stretch is Detroit....
So yeah, 3 wins vs teams below .500 and one win at home vs Detroit who are one win above .500
They've had 5 of their last 8 at home too and if those 8 games they've beaten 1 team over .500
if you include their win vs us, they've had two wins vs .500+ teams in their last 9 games.

Still on track for 24 wins without Lopez or Joe going down, giving us the 3rd or 4th pick.
They're lucky they get to play philly an extra game in the Atlantic too.

They've beaten Philly, Phoenix, Detroit and Houston.
No reason to expect them to win more than 25.

[celticsclay]

So Brooklyn has won 4 of their last 6 and has basically been playing .500 for the past month. 

Good news is that even if they were to play .500 for the remaining 60 games (which is probably an ambitious expectation given their lack of depth), they'd only finish with 37 wins (right about the same as last year when the made the playoffs).... which thanks to a surprisingly good Eastern Conference this season with several above .500 teams, 37 wins from Brooklyn would still net us a lotto pick... probably even top 10.

They are also 4 of their last 8 and the only team they've beaten above .500 in that 8 game stretch is Detroit....
So yeah, 3 wins vs teams below .500 and one win at home vs Detroit who are one win above .500
They've had 5 of their last 8 at home too and if those 8 games they've beaten 1 team over .500
if you include their win vs us, they've had two wins vs .500+ teams in their last 9 games.

Still on track for 24 wins without Lopez or Joe going down, giving us the 3rd or 4th pick.
They're lucky they get to play philly an extra game in the Atlantic too.

They've beaten Philly, Phoenix, Detroit and Houston.
No reason to expect them to win more than 25.

Pretty sure only a moron would be legitimately impressed by a come from behind 4th quarter win over the 76ers at home. I don't think he is a moron so he is just trying to annoy people.

[LarBrd33]

So Brooklyn has won 4 of their last 6 and has basically been playing .500 for the past month. 

Good news is that even if they were to play .500 for the remaining 60 games (which is probably an ambitious expectation given their lack of depth), they'd only finish with 37 wins (right about the same as last year when the made the playoffs).... which thanks to a surprisingly good Eastern Conference this season with several above .500 teams, 37 wins from Brooklyn would still net us a lotto pick... probably even top 10.

They are also 4 of their last 8 and the only team they've beaten above .500 in that 8 game stretch is Detroit....
So yeah, 3 wins vs teams below .500 and one win at home vs Detroit who are one win above .500
They've had 5 of their last 8 at home too and if those 8 games they've beaten 1 team over .500
if you include their win vs us, they've had two wins vs .500+ teams in their last 9 games.

Still on track for 24 wins without Lopez or Joe going down, giving us the 3rd or 4th pick.
They're lucky they get to play philly an extra game in the Atlantic too.

They've beaten Philly, Phoenix, Detroit and Houston.
No reason to expect them to win more than 25.

Didn't they also beat Boston?  They also took Golden State to overtime... they still lost, but I mean... they've sporadically shown signs of life this year.   

I hope the prediction that they lose 9 out of the next 10 comes true.  That'd be cool.  But they've been playing .500 ball for the last month.  They still make me nervous.

[TheFlex]

So Brooklyn has won 4 of their last 6 and has basically been playing .500 for the past month. 

Good news is that even if they were to play .500 for the remaining 60 games (which is probably an ambitious expectation given their lack of depth), they'd only finish with 37 wins (right about the same as last year when the made the playoffs).... which thanks to a surprisingly good Eastern Conference this season with several above .500 teams, 37 wins from Brooklyn would still net us a lotto pick... probably even top 10.

They are also 4 of their last 8 and the only team they've beaten above .500 in that 8 game stretch is Detroit....
So yeah, 3 wins vs teams below .500 and one win at home vs Detroit who are one win above .500
They've had 5 of their last 8 at home too and if those 8 games they've beaten 1 team over .500
if you include their win vs us, they've had two wins vs .500+ teams in their last 9 games.

Still on track for 24 wins without Lopez or Joe going down, giving us the 3rd or 4th pick.
They're lucky they get to play philly an extra game in the Atlantic too.

They've beaten Philly, Phoenix, Detroit and Houston.
No reason to expect them to win more than 25.

Didn't they also beat Boston?  They also took Golden State to overtime... they still lost, but I mean... they've sporadically shown signs of life this year.   

I hope the prediction that they lose 9 out of the next 10 comes true.  That'd be cool.  But they've been playing .500 ball for the last month.  They still make me nervous.

Every team in NBA history save for a few "sporadically [shows] signs of life" during an 82 game season. What does that really even mean, other than to magnify the slightest hint of winning basketball to suggest that Brooklyn won't end up as a bottom 5 team, as they are now despite a month of .500 basketball?

I think I might be more inclined to side with you on the Nets if this was last year or the year before. Simply wanting to win games guaranteed you a top 10 record in the East a couple years back when we gave tanking our best shot. That's not the case anymore. Just because the Nets don't have any reason to lose doesn't mean they still won't ultimately lose much more than they win.

[LarBrd33]

So Brooklyn has won 4 of their last 6 and has basically been playing .500 for the past month. 

Good news is that even if they were to play .500 for the remaining 60 games (which is probably an ambitious expectation given their lack of depth), they'd only finish with 37 wins (right about the same as last year when the made the playoffs).... which thanks to a surprisingly good Eastern Conference this season with several above .500 teams, 37 wins from Brooklyn would still net us a lotto pick... probably even top 10.

They are also 4 of their last 8 and the only team they've beaten above .500 in that 8 game stretch is Detroit....
So yeah, 3 wins vs teams below .500 and one win at home vs Detroit who are one win above .500
They've had 5 of their last 8 at home too and if those 8 games they've beaten 1 team over .500
if you include their win vs us, they've had two wins vs .500+ teams in their last 9 games.

Still on track for 24 wins without Lopez or Joe going down, giving us the 3rd or 4th pick.
They're lucky they get to play philly an extra game in the Atlantic too.

They've beaten Philly, Phoenix, Detroit and Houston.
No reason to expect them to win more than 25.

Didn't they also beat Boston?  They also took Golden State to overtime... they still lost, but I mean... they've sporadically shown signs of life this year.   

I hope the prediction that they lose 9 out of the next 10 comes true.  That'd be cool.  But they've been playing .500 ball for the last month.  They still make me nervous.

Every team in NBA history save for a few "sporadically [shows] signs of life" during an 82 game season. What does that really even mean, other than to magnify the slightest hint of winning basketball to suggest that Brooklyn won't end up as a bottom 5 team, as they are now despite a month of .500 basketball?

I think I might be more inclined to side with you on the Nets if this was last year or the year before. Simply wanting to win games guaranteed you a top 10 record in the East a couple years back when we gave tanking our best shot. That's not the case anymore. Just because the Nets don't have any reason to lose doesn't mean they still won't ultimately lose much more than they win.

I think I agree.  It's looking like the pick is more and more likely to end up top 10.  Even if they finished the remaining 60 games playing .500, that'd finish with 37 wins.  That was enough to maybe make the playoffs last year.  This year, it's probably the 11th seed in the East or something.

[TheSundanceKid]

So Brooklyn has won 4 of their last 6 and has basically been playing .500 for the past month. 

Good news is that even if they were to play .500 for the remaining 60 games (which is probably an ambitious expectation given their lack of depth), they'd only finish with 37 wins (right about the same as last year when the made the playoffs).... which thanks to a surprisingly good Eastern Conference this season with several above .500 teams, 37 wins from Brooklyn would still net us a lotto pick... probably even top 10.

They are also 4 of their last 8 and the only team they've beaten above .500 in that 8 game stretch is Detroit....
So yeah, 3 wins vs teams below .500 and one win at home vs Detroit who are one win above .500
They've had 5 of their last 8 at home too and if those 8 games they've beaten 1 team over .500
if you include their win vs us, they've had two wins vs .500+ teams in their last 9 games.

Still on track for 24 wins without Lopez or Joe going down, giving us the 3rd or 4th pick.
They're lucky they get to play philly an extra game in the Atlantic too.

They've beaten Philly, Phoenix, Detroit and Houston.
No reason to expect them to win more than 25.

Pretty sure only a moron would be legitimately impressed by a come from behind 4th quarter win over the 76ers at home. I don't think he is a moron so he is just trying to annoy people.

Now now there no need for name calling... As always the answer probably lies in the middle. If the Nets stay healthy the rest of the way their win total looks like being closer to 30. The pick in that case will likely be around 6. We'll need lottery luck to jump up.
There have been some neggy Nancy's on the board but there have also been some outlandish Ollie's (?) with their optimism. Philly, Lakers, Denver will all be worse and I expect one of Portland, Sac, NO and the T-wolves to drop off too.

[LarBrd33]

So Brooklyn has won 4 of their last 6 and has basically been playing .500 for the past month. 

Good news is that even if they were to play .500 for the remaining 60 games (which is probably an ambitious expectation given their lack of depth), they'd only finish with 37 wins (right about the same as last year when the made the playoffs).... which thanks to a surprisingly good Eastern Conference this season with several above .500 teams, 37 wins from Brooklyn would still net us a lotto pick... probably even top 10.

They are also 4 of their last 8 and the only team they've beaten above .500 in that 8 game stretch is Detroit....
So yeah, 3 wins vs teams below .500 and one win at home vs Detroit who are one win above .500
They've had 5 of their last 8 at home too and if those 8 games they've beaten 1 team over .500
if you include their win vs us, they've had two wins vs .500+ teams in their last 9 games.

Still on track for 24 wins without Lopez or Joe going down, giving us the 3rd or 4th pick.
They're lucky they get to play philly an extra game in the Atlantic too.

They've beaten Philly, Phoenix, Detroit and Houston.
No reason to expect them to win more than 25.

Pretty sure only a moron would be legitimately impressed by a come from behind 4th quarter win over the 76ers at home. I don't think he is a moron so he is just trying to annoy people.

Now now there no need for name calling... As always the answer probably lies in the middle. If the Nets stay healthy the rest of the way their win total looks like being closer to 30. The pick in that case will likely be around 6. We'll need lottery luck to jump up.
There have been some neggy Nancy's on the board but there have also been some outlandish Ollie's (?) with their optimism. Philly, Lakers, Denver will all be worse and I expect one of Portland, Sac, NO and the T-wolves to drop off too.

Yeah I don't really get the hostility towards anyone nervous about Brooklyn.   We all want the pick to land Simmons.  It's as if some folks think that simply writing that Brooklyn might be alright somehow puts a pox on the Celtics.  The real world doesn't work that way. 

Someone suggests Brooklyn will lose 9 out of the next 10.  I respond "here's hopin"... and some guy who has only had a CB account for a month (who might just be a previous member of the forum who created a new account) makes a public stink about ignoring me.    Come on.  Look at the standings... Brooklyn has 2 less wins than the Wizards (who would have the 12th best lotto odds if the season ended today).   There is 60 games left in this season.  Brooklyn has made the playoffs 3 years in a row.  Pardon me for being worried that we jumped the gun on the whole "who should we take if the pick falls to #2" camp.   Yeah, it's seems pretty likely Brooklyn will net us a top 10 pick.  But who knows...  This is why I have said all season that Marcus Smart remains our most valuable trade asset.  There's still a lot of uncertainty over that Brooklyn pick.  They are 8 games under .500.   Just a couple seasons ago they started out the season 11 games under .500 and ended up making the playoffs with a 44-38 record.  Just last season, Boston was 14 games under .500 and made the playoffs.    Bringing up some concerns and trying to temper expectations doesn't somehow cause Brooklyn to win games.

[Rondo9]

So Brooklyn has won 4 of their last 6 and has basically been playing .500 for the past month. 

Good news is that even if they were to play .500 for the remaining 60 games (which is probably an ambitious expectation given their lack of depth), they'd only finish with 37 wins (right about the same as last year when the made the playoffs).... which thanks to a surprisingly good Eastern Conference this season with several above .500 teams, 37 wins from Brooklyn would still net us a lotto pick... probably even top 10.

They are also 4 of their last 8 and the only team they've beaten above .500 in that 8 game stretch is Detroit....
So yeah, 3 wins vs teams below .500 and one win at home vs Detroit who are one win above .500
They've had 5 of their last 8 at home too and if those 8 games they've beaten 1 team over .500
if you include their win vs us, they've had two wins vs .500+ teams in their last 9 games.

Still on track for 24 wins without Lopez or Joe going down, giving us the 3rd or 4th pick.
They're lucky they get to play philly an extra game in the Atlantic too.

They've beaten Philly, Phoenix, Detroit and Houston.
No reason to expect them to win more than 25.

Pretty sure only a moron would be legitimately impressed by a come from behind 4th quarter win over the 76ers at home. I don't think he is a moron so he is just trying to annoy people.

Now now there no need for name calling... As always the answer probably lies in the middle. If the Nets stay healthy the rest of the way their win total looks like being closer to 30. The pick in that case will likely be around 6. We'll need lottery luck to jump up.
There have been some neggy Nancy's on the board but there have also been some outlandish Ollie's (?) with their optimism. Philly, Lakers, Denver will all be worse and I expect one of Portland, Sac, NO and the T-wolves to drop off too.

Portland, Sac and the Timberwolves look like they've improved this year. New Orleans is finally healthy and they should be better. The east is much tougher this year and the Nets are still the second worst team in the east. The Nets have one of the thinnest units in the league and their young player is injured. It's not like the optimism is unfounded.

[TheFlex]

So Brooklyn has won 4 of their last 6 and has basically been playing .500 for the past month. 

Good news is that even if they were to play .500 for the remaining 60 games (which is probably an ambitious expectation given their lack of depth), they'd only finish with 37 wins (right about the same as last year when the made the playoffs).... which thanks to a surprisingly good Eastern Conference this season with several above .500 teams, 37 wins from Brooklyn would still net us a lotto pick... probably even top 10.

They are also 4 of their last 8 and the only team they've beaten above .500 in that 8 game stretch is Detroit....
So yeah, 3 wins vs teams below .500 and one win at home vs Detroit who are one win above .500
They've had 5 of their last 8 at home too and if those 8 games they've beaten 1 team over .500
if you include their win vs us, they've had two wins vs .500+ teams in their last 9 games.

Still on track for 24 wins without Lopez or Joe going down, giving us the 3rd or 4th pick.
They're lucky they get to play philly an extra game in the Atlantic too.

They've beaten Philly, Phoenix, Detroit and Houston.
No reason to expect them to win more than 25.

Didn't they also beat Boston?  They also took Golden State to overtime... they still lost, but I mean... they've sporadically shown signs of life this year.   

I hope the prediction that they lose 9 out of the next 10 comes true.  That'd be cool.  But they've been playing .500 ball for the last month.  They still make me nervous.

Every team in NBA history save for a few "sporadically [shows] signs of life" during an 82 game season. What does that really even mean, other than to magnify the slightest hint of winning basketball to suggest that Brooklyn won't end up as a bottom 5 team, as they are now despite a month of .500 basketball?

I think I might be more inclined to side with you on the Nets if this was last year or the year before. Simply wanting to win games guaranteed you a top 10 record in the East a couple years back when we gave tanking our best shot. That's not the case anymore. Just because the Nets don't have any reason to lose doesn't mean they still won't ultimately lose much more than they win.

I think I agree.  It's looking like the pick is more and more likely to end up top 10.  Even if they finished the remaining 60 games playing .500, that'd finish with 37 wins.  That was enough to maybe make the playoffs last year.  This year, it's probably the 11th seed in the East or something.

I'll put my money on top 5. Thad Young and some others are playing way over their head. With Bogdanovic playing well now, they have no notable underperformers besides Joe Johnson, who shouldn't be expected to improve much. Someone will slump, and they don't have the depth to overcome it.

[TheSundanceKid]

So Brooklyn has won 4 of their last 6 and has basically been playing .500 for the past month. 

Good news is that even if they were to play .500 for the remaining 60 games (which is probably an ambitious expectation given their lack of depth), they'd only finish with 37 wins (right about the same as last year when the made the playoffs).... which thanks to a surprisingly good Eastern Conference this season with several above .500 teams, 37 wins from Brooklyn would still net us a lotto pick... probably even top 10.

They are also 4 of their last 8 and the only team they've beaten above .500 in that 8 game stretch is Detroit....
So yeah, 3 wins vs teams below .500 and one win at home vs Detroit who are one win above .500
They've had 5 of their last 8 at home too and if those 8 games they've beaten 1 team over .500
if you include their win vs us, they've had two wins vs .500+ teams in their last 9 games.

Still on track for 24 wins without Lopez or Joe going down, giving us the 3rd or 4th pick.
They're lucky they get to play philly an extra game in the Atlantic too.

They've beaten Philly, Phoenix, Detroit and Houston.
No reason to expect them to win more than 25.

Pretty sure only a moron would be legitimately impressed by a come from behind 4th quarter win over the 76ers at home. I don't think he is a moron so he is just trying to annoy people.

Now now there no need for name calling... As always the answer probably lies in the middle. If the Nets stay healthy the rest of the way their win total looks like being closer to 30. The pick in that case will likely be around 6. We'll need lottery luck to jump up.
There have been some neggy Nancy's on the board but there have also been some outlandish Ollie's (?) with their optimism. Philly, Lakers, Denver will all be worse and I expect one of Portland, Sac, NO and the T-wolves to drop off too.

Portland, Sac and the Timberwolves look like they've improved this year. New Orleans is finally healthy and they should be better. The east is much tougher this year and the Nets are still the second worst team in the east. The Nets have one of the thinnest units in the league and their young player is injured. It's not like the optimism is unfounded.

I agree, they all look improved. Well Portland hasn't improved but they're much better than they should be!
Now I've heard a lot of people say how much better the East is this year, it comes up in almost every discussion. But if you look at the standings it's Parity in the East. The top records are still in the West, 3 of the top 4 as of writing. But more importantly the bottom of the West has taken a serious dive, 6 teams still in single digit wins compared to 4 in the East. Brooklyn has a higher win % than 4 of them. Add on that Brooklyn has had a harsh start and are in an easy division. I don't think it's negative to say they look like they could win 30.

I started the season thinking they would be in the 6-8 range. The start to the season got me and others excited but now it's back to being grounded again. It's still a valuable pick and I don't see Brooklyn getting near the playoffs but until an injury occurs or some trades happen we need to be a bit more realistic / wary over the potential of the pick

[TheSundanceKid]

Oh and LarBrd, I read more often than I post here and I do think you get flamed too much for your opinions. I've disagreed with some in the past but then that is the by product of having opinions! I think some people just see posts by you and the red mist descends sometimes. There's room for the whole spectrum of opinions here, and I think what should also be accounted for is that opinions change! As we see more of Brooklyn people will shift their outlooks and a lot of that will be due to that person's prevailing instincts whether it be cautiousness or excitement!

[Redz]

Well, the 7 Wins should be plenty enough to rule out the worst record anyhow...

[The One]

Don't worry be happy...the pick will be what it will be.

Another asset in the cache.

***Oh please be top 5!!!!***

 

[konkmv]

even if they are a 45% home team and a 25% away team (optimistic scenario) they will not reach 30 wins... anyway after february when they will be eleminated from they playoffs they will brake down... they are bad with no bench... it is a top 5 pick

[GC003332]

Those Sixers fans masquerading as Celtics fans won't want Philly to win this one , get too close to the Lakers and screw up their 25% shot at Simmons.

Good (tommy) point

Technically if the season ended today, Philly would have a 33.8% chance at Simmons seeing as they can swap picks with the Kings and the Kings have the 5th worst record. 

But I'm not sure how Philly winning this would have anything to do with the Lakers.   Lakers aren't finishing with a worst record than Philly.  Lakers need to lose all the games they can, because if they fall out of the top 3 (45% chance of happening right now), their pick goes to Philly... but it would be pretty surprising if the Lakers finished with a worst record than Philly this year.

What you're really trying to say is...

As a Celtic fan, we want Brooklyn to lose so the pick they owe us stays juicy.

As a Laker hater, we want Philly to lose so it hurts the Lakers chance of having the top draft odds.

I said I had to say, I don't need you to telling me what you think I am saying.
Funny you state that if the season ended today the Sixers would have 33.8 %(which is currently 31.3%) chance at winning the lottery and when it comes to the Celtics own pick via Brooklyn you state there are still 60 games left in the season... The Sixers with their superstar prospects as you like to call them could well go on a run of their own and overtake the Lakers , given that the Lakers have a much greater incentive to finish in last place as to not give the Sixers the top 3 protected pick.
If the season ended today the Celtics would have a 11.9% chance of  getting the top pick whilst being in the playoffs. Good times to be a Celtics fan on Celticsblog.