Official 2015-16 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (21-59, 3rd slot as of 4/12)

[rollie mass]

after christmas and new years a star on a lousy team might stop running and this next stretch of games may add an injury-lopez has his big money

[PhoSita]

Nets 7-13 over their last 20 games.  That's a 35% win percentage.  If they continue at that pace the rest of the way, they finish with 27 wins.

[Rondo9]

So they slot 3-5.

[SCeltic34]

The Mavs also started 9-4 thanks to an easy schedule.  They've been 4-7 since.  Past success (or failure) isn't always predictive of the future, admittedly even if advanced stats early in the season argued against the Nets.

Brooklyn is enjoying a very long stretch of home games, where they've actually been solid at 6-5 for the season.  They're 1-11 on the road.  Only 4 of their 15 games in December are on the road.

They're 5-5 over their last 10, but I can assure you that they will not play .500 ball for the remainder of the season because their roster just has too many holes.  Their schedule in January is tough, but no so much in February.

What concerns me slightly is the 4 or so closing games in April, where they will be playing likely playoff contenders that might choose to rest their key players.  In any case, Brooklyn shouldn't win any more than 25 games total.  I don't think any C's fan would have been particularly disappointed with a < 30 win season from the Nets at the start of the season.

[hwangjini_1]

So they slot 3-5.

that is how they project. come the draft it is quite possible one team jumps ahead of them. so i expect the nets pick to fall somewhere in the 4-6 range. still a good player can be had there. and who knows? maybe the luck of irish finally comes through for them and they jump up to #1.

just keep those fingers crossed. 

[Ogaju]

Since we own the Nets pick do we take their seat if they are in the lottery, or do they get the seat and just pick for us. LOL !!!

Could get really bizarre if they have to attend the lottery just to pick for us.

[chambers]

Nets 7-13 over their last 20 games.  That's a 35% win percentage.  If they continue at that pace the rest of the way, they finish with 27 wins.

Look at bit closer and for the entire season, they've beaten three teams with a .500 or better record.
They've beaten us once, the Hawks once, and Detroit once.
Only .500 teams they've beaten out of 23 games lol.

[MBunge]

Since we own the Nets pick do we take their seat if they are in the lottery, or do they get the seat and just pick for us. LOL !!!

Could get really bizarre if they have to attend the lottery just to pick for us.

I think traditionally it has been that if you own another team's pick outright, you take their place at the lottery.  So, if Boston misses the playoffs, there would only be 13 people on stage for the drawing.    But since we may or may not get Minny's and Dallas' picks depending on where they fall, those teams would both be at the lottery.

Mike

[Ilikesports17]

Nets 7-13 over their last 20 games.  That's a 35% win percentage.  If they continue at that pace the rest of the way, they finish with 27 wins.

27 wins gets you pick 5 last year, pick 6 the year before, then 5th again the year before that, then 5th, then 7th.

Basically, if Brooklyn plays better than Id expect them too, then we can expect the 5-6 lotto odds which is not half bad.

[Ogaju]

Since we own the Nets pick do we take their seat if they are in the lottery, or do they get the seat and just pick for us. LOL !!!

Could get really bizarre if they have to attend the lottery just to pick for us.

I think traditionally it has been that if you own another team's pick outright, you take their place at the lottery.  So, if Boston misses the playoffs, there would only be 13 people on stage for the drawing.    But since we may or may not get Minny's and Dallas' picks depending on where they fall, those teams would both be at the lottery.

Mike

that is an interesting scenario. Minny and Dallas may be there to  pick for us...

[max215]

Nets 7-13 over their last 20 games.  That's a 35% win percentage.  If they continue at that pace the rest of the way, they finish with 27 wins.

27 wins gets you pick 5 last year, pick 6 the year before, then 5th again the year before that, then 5th, then 7th.

Basically, if Brooklyn plays better than Id expect them too, then we can expect the 5-6 lotto odds which is not half bad.

Not half bad? That sounds absolutely amazing! We'd have a decent shot at jumping into the top 3 too.

[mef730]

What concerns me slightly is the 4 or so closing games in April, where they will be playing likely playoff contenders that might choose to rest their key players.  In any case, Brooklyn shouldn't win any more than 25 games total.  I don't think any C's fan would have been particularly disappointed with a < 30 win season from the Nets at the start of the season.

If the season continues to go the way it is, these teams may be fighting down to the last game for slotting. I hope.

Since we own the Nets pick do we take their seat if they are in the lottery, or do they get the seat and just pick for us. LOL !!!

Could get really bizarre if they have to attend the lottery just to pick for us.

I think traditionally it has been that if you own another team's pick outright, you take their place at the lottery.  So, if Boston misses the playoffs, there would only be 13 people on stage for the drawing.    But since we may or may not get Minny's and Dallas' picks depending on where they fall, those teams would both be at the lottery.

Mike

If we get two picks, I think we should get two representatives. What are the chances that we could get Garnett and Pierce to step in for us?

Mike

[PhoSita]

Nets 7-13 over their last 20 games.  That's a 35% win percentage.  If they continue at that pace the rest of the way, they finish with 27 wins.

27 wins gets you pick 5 last year, pick 6 the year before, then 5th again the year before that, then 5th, then 7th.

Basically, if Brooklyn plays better than Id expect them too, then we can expect the 5-6 lotto odds which is not half bad.

Certainly couldn't complain about getting a top 6 pick in a year the Celts look like they'll have a winning record and perhaps even be competitive in a first round playoff series.

At the same time, it would be a bit of a let down after we all salivated at the prospect of the Nets handing us Ben Simmons.

That's the kind of scenario (getting a pick in the 5-10 range instead of top 5) that I've been raising as a distinct possibility since the summertime. 

Expressing that concern around here has a tendency to be interpreted as an argument for why the Nets might make the playoffs.


Anyway, plenty of superstars have come from the back half of the top 10.  Have to hope Danny picks correctly among a crop of prospects that doesn't look like it has any no-doubt stars other than Simmons.

[Evantime34]

Nets 7-13 over their last 20 games.  That's a 35% win percentage.  If they continue at that pace the rest of the way, they finish with 27 wins.

27 wins gets you pick 5 last year, pick 6 the year before, then 5th again the year before that, then 5th, then 7th.

Basically, if Brooklyn plays better than Id expect them too, then we can expect the 5-6 lotto odds which is not half bad.

Certainly couldn't complain about getting a top 6 pick in a year the Celts look like they'll have a winning record and perhaps even be competitive in a first round playoff series.

At the same time, it would be a bit of a let down after we all salivated at the prospect of the Nets handing us Ben Simmons.

That's the kind of scenario (getting a pick in the 5-10 range instead of top 5) that I've been raising as a distinct possibility since the summertime. 

Expressing that concern around here has a tendency to be interpreted as an argument for why the Nets might make the playoffs.


Anyway, plenty of superstars have come from the back half of the top 10.  Have to hope Danny picks correctly among a crop of prospects that doesn't look like it has any no-doubt stars other than Simmons.

I've resigned myself to Simmons not being available when we pick. That being said if we get a top 10 pick in the draft that will still help the long term outlook a ton even if it's not as much as Simmons would.

If we can add a Marcus Smart level talent in the 5-10 range with the Brooklyn pick we should be happy, even if we don't get Simmons.

The positive thing about the Nets pick is that it is determined by seeding, not directly proportional to wins and losses. By that I mean that if the Nets finish with the third worst record, it won't matter that they are much closer to making the playoffs than being the worst team in the league.

In terms of talent the Nets are way closer to being the 8th playoff seed than they are to being worse than Philly or LA. However, an argument could be made for them being the worst team outside of the bottom tier.

Even with their solid play recently I don't think they finish the year with a better record than New Orleans, Sacramento, Milwaukee or even Denver.

As a C's fan I am going to be looking at players in the 3-6 range instead of Simmons because I think longing for Simmons will leave me disappointed.

[Quetzalcoatl]

The Nets could finish with the 9th worst record and still get us Simmons.  The Nets could finish with the worst record and not get us Simmons.  Let's all just be happy that they seem to be the 4th or 5th worst team in the league and they lost a bunch of close games so far.  They could easily be 11-12 right now instead of 7-16.  They lose one of JJ, Lopez, Bogdanovic, Jack, Larkin or Young and they're toast. 

Bogdanovic is the only real SF they have left.  They have other guys who can fill in, but they aren't true SFs.

Lopez is their star. 

JJ can still produce offense, which almost nobody else on that team can.

Larkin and Jack are the only PGs and are averaging 50 minutes a game between the two of them.

Thaddeus Young is beasting on anybody who isn't strong enough to guard him and while he isn't super useful every game, he definitely causes serious match up problems against some teams.  Like I don't think they win that last 76ers game without him, as crazy as that sounds.

They lose any one of those guys and I don't see how they can compete.

Anyways, tonight they're up against the 12-11 Magic, but the game in in BK.  The Magic haven't won there since the Nets moved from Jersey.  Orlando is a 3 point favorite, but are coming off a 111-76 drubbing by the Cavaliers on Friday, which is the biggest loss in their history.  Hopefully, they have regrouped and rested this weekend and are ready to take it to Brooklyn.