Official 2015-16 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (21-59, 3rd slot as of 4/12)

[PhoSita]

Well, the 7 Wins should be plenty enough to rule out the worst record anyhow...

I think Philly and LA have the #30 and #29 spots locked up.  Nobody is challenging them.

[mef730]

There's room for the whole spectrum of opinions here, and I think what should also be accounted for is that opinions change! As we see more of Brooklyn people will shift their outlooks and a lot of that will be due to that person's prevailing instincts whether it be cautiousness or excitement!

Regression to the mean applies to opinions, as well.

So here's one thing I've been thinking about. We've all been concentrating on what number pick we end up with, and I think part of the reason was that the 2016 draft had previously been viewed as a weak one, minus Ben Simmons. But it appears that there are a few legitimate players this year past Simmons and Skal. In other words, a top-5 pick would get you a decent shot at an above-average player, not just top-2. That gives us a little breathing room.

Simmons is clearly at the top of the class, but he's no longer the only player. And it's not impossible to come up with a situation where Skal falls to 4 or 5. Let's say that LA, Philly and, oh, I dunno, Sacramento end up at the top 3. If LA is #1, they take Simmons. Philly and Sacramento (assuming Cousins is still around) have other needs. Then there's the ultimate dream scenario, where we have #1, followed by Phi/Sac/Phi. Skal falls but, at that point, does it matter?

Mike

[LarBrd33]

Those Sixers fans masquerading as Celtics fans won't want Philly to win this one , get too close to the Lakers and screw up their 25% shot at Simmons.

Good (tommy) point

Technically if the season ended today, Philly would have a 33.8% chance at Simmons seeing as they can swap picks with the Kings and the Kings have the 5th worst record. 

But I'm not sure how Philly winning this would have anything to do with the Lakers.   Lakers aren't finishing with a worst record than Philly.  Lakers need to lose all the games they can, because if they fall out of the top 3 (45% chance of happening right now), their pick goes to Philly... but it would be pretty surprising if the Lakers finished with a worst record than Philly this year.

What you're really trying to say is...

As a Celtic fan, we want Brooklyn to lose so the pick they owe us stays juicy.

As a Laker hater, we want Philly to lose so it hurts the Lakers chance of having the top draft odds.

I said I had to say, I don't need you to telling me what you think I am saying.
Funny you state that if the season ended today the Sixers would have 33.8 %(which is currently 31.3%) chance at winning the lottery and when it comes to the Celtics own pick via Brooklyn you state there are still 60 games left in the season... The Sixers with their superstar prospects as you like to call them could well go on a run of their own and overtake the Lakers , given that the Lakers have a much greater incentive to finish in last place as to not give the Sixers the top 3 protected pick.
If the season ended today the Celtics would have a 11.9% chance of  getting the top pick whilst being in the playoffs. Good times to be a Celtics fan on Celticsblog.

brooklyn has at least 7 NBA players on their team.  You could surround steph curry with 14 D-leaguers and that team would still probably finish with the worst record in the league.  I see little reason to believe philly is finishing anywhere but the bottom. They put a lot of work into structuring that team to lose.  So no, I don't consider there to be much possibility of a Philly run. Brooklyn is better than most think, though.

[MJohnnyboy]

Bill Simmons brought up in his podcast today that the Nets could hypothetically trade Joe Johnson for Derrick Rose considering the Nets don't have the best guard rotation and probably don't look like the best free agent destination and the Bulls may consider blowing up their team because their pieces don't fit. It actually kind of makes sense and the Nets would be crazy enough the roll the dice on something like that to keep themselves out of the NBA bottom dwellers.

Hmmmmmmm.....

[celticsclay]

So Brooklyn has won 4 of their last 6 and has basically been playing .500 for the past month. 

Good news is that even if they were to play .500 for the remaining 60 games (which is probably an ambitious expectation given their lack of depth), they'd only finish with 37 wins (right about the same as last year when the made the playoffs).... which thanks to a surprisingly good Eastern Conference this season with several above .500 teams, 37 wins from Brooklyn would still net us a lotto pick... probably even top 10.

They are also 4 of their last 8 and the only team they've beaten above .500 in that 8 game stretch is Detroit....
So yeah, 3 wins vs teams below .500 and one win at home vs Detroit who are one win above .500
They've had 5 of their last 8 at home too and if those 8 games they've beaten 1 team over .500
if you include their win vs us, they've had two wins vs .500+ teams in their last 9 games.

Still on track for 24 wins without Lopez or Joe going down, giving us the 3rd or 4th pick.
They're lucky they get to play philly an extra game in the Atlantic too.

They've beaten Philly, Phoenix, Detroit and Houston.
No reason to expect them to win more than 25.

Pretty sure only a moron would be legitimately impressed by a come from behind 4th quarter win over the 76ers at home. I don't think he is a moron so he is just trying to annoy people.

Now now there no need for name calling... As always the answer probably lies in the middle. If the Nets stay healthy the rest of the way their win total looks like being closer to 30. The pick in that case will likely be around 6. We'll need lottery luck to jump up.
There have been some neggy Nancy's on the board but there have also been some outlandish Ollie's (?) with their optimism. Philly, Lakers, Denver will all be worse and I expect one of Portland, Sac, NO and the T-wolves to drop off too.

If you read carefully, I didn't actually call him anything. I think he is smart and watches a lot of basketball. So I know he knows enough to not really be legitimately impressed when Brooklyn beats Philadelphia at home after coming from behind in the 4th quarter. He was just trying to agitate some of the other posters on here. I also do believe that he thinks the Nets could win 30 games. I wish he could stop the needless trolling attempts (like starting a draft pick watch thread on the one day the celtics happen to be in lottery position). He has some good stat insight and viewpoints that are counter to unbridled optimism, but that stuff is being drowned out in hyperbole and attempts to annoy other people. Look no  earlier than last night's game thread to see it derailing from a discussion about the game on hand to whether him and another fan were obsessed with each other and what the movie would be called starring them both.

[chambers]

Good news is that Minny and New Orleans both won.
The bad news is that Minny beat Denver and we want Denver to win as much as possible.

A likely Brooklyn loss to the Clippers and a Mavs loss to the Wizards would be a great Saturday night.

A win for us vs Charlotte in Charlotte will be a cherry on top 

[Adelaide Celt]

Good news is that Minny and New Orleans both won.
The bad news is that Minny beat Denver and we want Denver to win as much as possible.

A likely Brooklyn loss to the Clippers and a Mavs loss to the Wizards would be a great Saturday night.

A win for us vs Charlotte in Charlotte will be a cherry on top 

Denver actually beat Minnesota in OT.

[celticsclay]

Nets down 8 after first quarter. Nice to see them playing a halfway decent team after getting the imploding rockets and philly at home back to back. Hopefully this continues and can quell some of the "they are playing pretty good talk"

[celticsclay]

Ol friend Paul Pierce with his best half of the season 8 points on 4 shots in 6 minutes. Clips have opened up a 14pt lead as the Nets have sloan and markel brown on the floor right now.

[esel1000]

Ol friend Paul Pierce with his best half of the season 8 points on 4 shots in 6 minutes. Clips have opened up a 14pt lead as the Nets have sloan and markel brown on the floor right now.

PP still helping out the Cs

[celticsclay]

Bill Simmons brought up in his podcast today that the Nets could hypothetically trade Joe Johnson for Derrick Rose considering the Nets don't have the best guard rotation and probably don't look like the best free agent destination and the Bulls may consider blowing up their team because their pieces don't fit. It actually kind of makes sense and the Nets would be crazy enough the roll the dice on something like that to keep themselves out of the NBA bottom dwellers.

Hmmmmmmm.....

I think that move would happen this offseason if it happened (and obviously not for Joe Johnson. Even though they are "under-achieving" so far they definitely have a punchers chance of of winning the east still.

[esel1000]

Bill Simmons brought up in his podcast today that the Nets could hypothetically trade Joe Johnson for Derrick Rose considering the Nets don't have the best guard rotation and probably don't look like the best free agent destination and the Bulls may consider blowing up their team because their pieces don't fit. It actually kind of makes sense and the Nets would be crazy enough the roll the dice on something like that to keep themselves out of the NBA bottom dwellers.

Hmmmmmmm.....

I think that move would happen this offseason if it happened (and obviously not for Joe Johnson. Even though they are "under-achieving" so far they definitely have a punchers chance of of winning the east still.

I know it's a salary dump but I'd assume the Bulls would want picks... And the Nets have a ton of picks...Lol oops

[KeepRondo]

The Clips don't even somewhat try to involve Deandre in the offense. What the heck was he thinking staying on this team.

[hpantazo]

The Clips don't even somewhat try to involve Deandre in the offense. What the heck was he thinking staying on this team.

They told him they would, and totally lied to him, mainly Doc did. He should be asking for a trade by now.

[KeepRondo]

The Clips don't even somewhat try to involve Deandre in the offense. What the heck was he thinking staying on this team.

They told him they would, and totally lied to him, mainly Doc did. He should be asking for a trade by now.

They use him on offense like he's Kendrick Perkins.