C's reportedly been trying like crazy to trade Bass

[inverselock]

Can't believe Danny didn't give you that contract.   Bad luck mate.   Don't give up.

My agent is smoothing him over as I type this.

That's good.    Our roster is in drastic need of some upgrades.  A step closer to no18.

[Celtics4ever]

I am sure it would help with the tanking.

[pokeKingCurtis]

Who me?

I had a huge year, last year.

My record was immaculate.

0 games played, 0 points per game, 0 points attempted.

I was perfect.

Can't miss a shot.

Superhuman consistency.

You heard it here first. Forget Wiggins. Forget Anthony Davis. Move over, KD and LeBron.

gpap is the next big thing.

[Jonny CC]

Chris22 loves PER. It's his thing.

Gotcha

Celtics fans are such homers about their players.
There is a reason we lost so many games last year.
Once again, Bradley was overpowered by OJ Mayo.

I would like you to please take a look at Avery Bradley's ranking among starting NBA calibre guards (not just shooting guards, but all guards) in the major basic statistical categories that are relevant for a guard (Per 48 minutes), such as:

Scoring (PPG)
Rebounding (RPG)
Assists (APG)
Steals (SPG)
Fewest turnovers (TPG)
FG%
3PT%
FT%

I think you'll find he ranks pretty well in all categories except assists, which I would suggest is the one key statistic that brings his Per down so much.  Yet it is not an especially important statistic when you have so many good passers on the team.

Bradley's ranking among shooting guards only......

Scoring 19th....he shoots a lot for a bad team.
Rebounds 6th....very good.
Steals 15th...the thing he does well.
Assists 53rd....he's a terrible passer.
Turnovers per game 78th.....Yikes!
FG% 35th....he's not a good shooter.
FT% 43rd....that one surprised me.

Thanks for proving my point. He isn't very good.

Here are the links if anyone doubts what I am saying.

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/4240/avery-bradley

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/assists/sort/avgAssists/qualified/false/position/shooting-guards/count/41

Well played.  Nothing like statistics (facts) to make a point. 
Bradley is good...but he's not very good. 

[Smokeeye123]

Trade Bass for a second rounder and be done with it. Not every deal has to be a homerun danny. Especially when keeping him probably makes us win 3-4 more games and hurts our tankjob next year. Package him with Rondo and you might be able to get a lotto pick.

[Chris22]

Trade Bass for a second rounder and be done with it. Not every deal has to be a homerun danny. Especially when keeping him probably makes us win 3-4 more games and hurts our tankjob next year. Package him with Rondo and you might be able to get a lotto pick.

+1

[Chris22]

Chris22 loves PER. It's his thing.

Gotcha

Celtics fans are such homers about their players.
There is a reason we lost so many games last year.
Once again, Bradley was overpowered by OJ Mayo.

I would like you to please take a look at Avery Bradley's ranking among starting NBA calibre guards (not just shooting guards, but all guards) in the major basic statistical categories that are relevant for a guard (Per 48 minutes), such as:

Scoring (PPG)
Rebounding (RPG)
Assists (APG)
Steals (SPG)
Fewest turnovers (TPG)
FG%
3PT%
FT%

I think you'll find he ranks pretty well in all categories except assists, which I would suggest is the one key statistic that brings his Per down so much.  Yet it is not an especially important statistic when you have so many good passers on the team.

Bradley's ranking among shooting guards only......

Scoring 19th....he shoots a lot for a bad team.
Rebounds 6th....very good.
Steals 15th...the thing he does well.
Assists 53rd....he's a terrible passer.
Turnovers per game 78th.....Yikes!
FG% 35th....he's not a good shooter.
FT% 43rd....that one surprised me.

Thanks for proving my point. He isn't very good.

Here are the links if anyone doubts what I am saying.

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/4240/avery-bradley

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/assists/sort/avgAssists/qualified/false/position/shooting-guards/count/41

Well played.  Nothing like statistics (facts) to make a point. 
Bradley is good...but he's not very good.

The PER is a very good stat. Bradley ranks 39th among shooting guards in PER.
That is about right.

[BballTim]

Chris22 loves PER. It's his thing.

Gotcha

Celtics fans are such homers about their players.
There is a reason we lost so many games last year.
Once again, Bradley was overpowered by OJ Mayo.

I would like you to please take a look at Avery Bradley's ranking among starting NBA calibre guards (not just shooting guards, but all guards) in the major basic statistical categories that are relevant for a guard (Per 48 minutes), such as:

Scoring (PPG)
Rebounding (RPG)
Assists (APG)
Steals (SPG)
Fewest turnovers (TPG)
FG%
3PT%
FT%

I think you'll find he ranks pretty well in all categories except assists, which I would suggest is the one key statistic that brings his Per down so much.  Yet it is not an especially important statistic when you have so many good passers on the team.

Bradley's ranking among shooting guards only......

Scoring 19th....he shoots a lot for a bad team.
Rebounds 6th....very good.
Steals 15th...the thing he does well.
Assists 53rd....he's a terrible passer.
Turnovers per game 78th.....Yikes!
FG% 35th....he's not a good shooter.
FT% 43rd....that one surprised me.

Thanks for proving my point. He isn't very good.

Here are the links if anyone doubts what I am saying.

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/4240/avery-bradley

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/assists/sort/avgAssists/qualified/false/position/shooting-guards/count/41

  I think you need to re-check your numbers. You lost your way somewhere around the "assists".  Also, the number of qualified shooting guards from espn is 53, so keep that in mind. I think that you'd end up with above average at scoring, rebounds, steals, turnovers and 3 point shooting, average at free throws, below average at assists and overall fg%. Couple that with above average defense and you have a somewhat better than average sg. He's not an all-star, but he's a better player than you seem to think he is.

[More Banners]

Chris22 loves PER. It's his thing.

Gotcha

Celtics fans are such homers about their players.
There is a reason we lost so many games last year.
Once again, Bradley was overpowered by OJ Mayo.

That has incredibly less importance than what you're attributing it. As in, no one cares that Mayo had some good games against Bradley and it shouldn't influence one way or another an evaluation of Bradley's abilities.

I recall shaking my head in disbelief as our best guard defender was completely steamrolled by a very average Ray Felton for an entire series vs. the Knicks in the first round.

Bradley:  quick hands and feet on the perimeter, but not exactly physical.  Strictly a role player, and in a narrow role at that, which is why he's best off the bench, in which case, as a non-ball handler, he should only be a backup SG, which means, ideally, there is only room for him to get about 15 minutes per game on the next banner team...

This will be his last contract with Boston, at least.

[Chris22]

Chris22 loves PER. It's his thing.

Gotcha

Celtics fans are such homers about their players.
There is a reason we lost so many games last year.
Once again, Bradley was overpowered by OJ Mayo.

I would like you to please take a look at Avery Bradley's ranking among starting NBA calibre guards (not just shooting guards, but all guards) in the major basic statistical categories that are relevant for a guard (Per 48 minutes), such as:

Scoring (PPG)
Rebounding (RPG)
Assists (APG)
Steals (SPG)
Fewest turnovers (TPG)
FG%
3PT%
FT%

I think you'll find he ranks pretty well in all categories except assists, which I would suggest is the one key statistic that brings his Per down so much.  Yet it is not an especially important statistic when you have so many good passers on the team.

Bradley's ranking among shooting guards only......

Scoring 19th....he shoots a lot for a bad team.
Rebounds 6th....very good.
Steals 15th...the thing he does well.
Assists 53rd....he's a terrible passer.
Turnovers per game 78th.....Yikes!
FG% 35th....he's not a good shooter.
FT% 43rd....that one surprised me.

Thanks for proving my point. He isn't very good.

Here are the links if anyone doubts what I am saying.

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/4240/avery-bradley

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/assists/sort/avgAssists/qualified/false/position/shooting-guards/count/41

  I think you need to re-check your numbers. You lost your way somewhere around the "assists".  Also, the number of qualified shooting guards from espn is 53, so keep that in mind. I think that you'd end up with above average at scoring, rebounds, steals, turnovers and 3 point shooting, average at free throws, below average at assists and overall fg%. Couple that with above average defense and you have a somewhat better than average sg. He's not an all-star, but he's a better player than you seem to think he is.

You need to go back and look at my link. The number of qualifying shooting guards is 103.
My post was fact. Your post is made up in your head.

[Chris22]

Chris22 loves PER. It's his thing.

Gotcha

Celtics fans are such homers about their players.
There is a reason we lost so many games last year.
Once again, Bradley was overpowered by OJ Mayo.

That has incredibly less importance than what you're attributing it. As in, no one cares that Mayo had some good games against Bradley and it shouldn't influence one way or another an evaluation of Bradley's abilities.

I recall shaking my head in disbelief as our best guard defender was completely steamrolled by a very average Ray Felton for an entire series vs. the Knicks in the first round.

Bradley:  quick hands and feet on the perimeter, but not exactly physical.  Strictly a role player, and in a narrow role at that, which is why he's best off the bench, in which case, as a non-ball handler, he should only be a backup SG, which means, ideally, there is only room for him to get about 15 minutes per game on the next banner team...

This will be his last contract with Boston, at least.

Bingo.

Ainge made a huge mistake with that contract. He has a tendency to fall in love with his own players. It's a bad trait for a GM.

[BudweiserCeltic]

Chris22 loves PER. It's his thing.

Gotcha

Celtics fans are such homers about their players.
There is a reason we lost so many games last year.
Once again, Bradley was overpowered by OJ Mayo.

That has incredibly less importance than what you're attributing it. As in, no one cares that Mayo had some good games against Bradley and it shouldn't influence one way or another an evaluation of Bradley's abilities.

I recall shaking my head in disbelief as our best guard defender was completely steamrolled by a very average Ray Felton for an entire series vs. the Knicks in the first round.

Bradley:  quick hands and feet on the perimeter, but not exactly physical.  Strictly a role player, and in a narrow role at that, which is why he's best off the bench, in which case, as a non-ball handler, he should only be a backup SG, which means, ideally, there is only room for him to get about 15 minutes per game on the next banner team...

This will be his last contract with Boston, at least.

Only if you analyze that Bradley's performance in the Knicks series was the norm for him.

As in, in your opinion, did he defend well and was simply over-powered by Felton? Or did he defended poorly, and Felton took advantage of it?

In my opinion in that series Bradley defended poorly. He wasn't aggressive defensively as he's usually been. He was more worried about running the PG position which took out a lot of focus from his defensive focus, and his defensive effort was simply not there... combine that with Felton being on his game, and it proved to be a disaster.

So while that was a poor series for Bradley, it's hardly representative of Bradley's ability to defend players built like Felton.

All that said, Bradley seems quite focused in getting bigger/bulkier so this might not be a problem, if a problem it is, much longer. A month or so ago there was a video of him training and he already looked quite bigger, he was at 200 pounds or so back then. He worked on this on 2013 off-season also.

[BballTim]

Chris22 loves PER. It's his thing.

Gotcha

Celtics fans are such homers about their players.
There is a reason we lost so many games last year.
Once again, Bradley was overpowered by OJ Mayo.

I would like you to please take a look at Avery Bradley's ranking among starting NBA calibre guards (not just shooting guards, but all guards) in the major basic statistical categories that are relevant for a guard (Per 48 minutes), such as:

Scoring (PPG)
Rebounding (RPG)
Assists (APG)
Steals (SPG)
Fewest turnovers (TPG)
FG%
3PT%
FT%

I think you'll find he ranks pretty well in all categories except assists, which I would suggest is the one key statistic that brings his Per down so much.  Yet it is not an especially important statistic when you have so many good passers on the team.

Bradley's ranking among shooting guards only......

Scoring 19th....he shoots a lot for a bad team.
Rebounds 6th....very good.
Steals 15th...the thing he does well.
Assists 53rd....he's a terrible passer.
Turnovers per game 78th.....Yikes!
FG% 35th....he's not a good shooter.
FT% 43rd....that one surprised me.

Thanks for proving my point. He isn't very good.

Here are the links if anyone doubts what I am saying.

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/4240/avery-bradley

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/assists/sort/avgAssists/qualified/false/position/shooting-guards/count/41

  I think you need to re-check your numbers. You lost your way somewhere around the "assists".  Also, the number of qualified shooting guards from espn is 53, so keep that in mind. I think that you'd end up with above average at scoring, rebounds, steals, turnovers and 3 point shooting, average at free throws, below average at assists and overall fg%. Couple that with above average defense and you have a somewhat better than average sg. He's not an all-star, but he's a better player than you seem to think he is.

You need to go back and look at my link. The number of qualifying shooting guards is 103.
My post was fact. Your post is made up in your head.

  No, you need to go back and look at your link. It's not 103 Qualified players, it's 103 players. To  get the list of Qualified players you need to click on "Qualified". Complicated, I know, but keep working at it and eventually you'll figure it out.

[Eddie20]

Chris22 loves PER. It's his thing.

Gotcha

Celtics fans are such homers about their players.
There is a reason we lost so many games last year.
Once again, Bradley was overpowered by OJ Mayo.

I would like you to please take a look at Avery Bradley's ranking among starting NBA calibre guards (not just shooting guards, but all guards) in the major basic statistical categories that are relevant for a guard (Per 48 minutes), such as:

Scoring (PPG)
Rebounding (RPG)
Assists (APG)
Steals (SPG)
Fewest turnovers (TPG)
FG%
3PT%
FT%

I think you'll find he ranks pretty well in all categories except assists, which I would suggest is the one key statistic that brings his Per down so much.  Yet it is not an especially important statistic when you have so many good passers on the team.

Bradley's ranking among shooting guards only......

Scoring 19th....he shoots a lot for a bad team.
Rebounds 6th....very good.
Steals 15th...the thing he does well.
Assists 53rd....he's a terrible passer.
Turnovers per game 78th.....Yikes!
FG% 35th....he's not a good shooter.
FT% 43rd....that one surprised me.

Thanks for proving my point. He isn't very good.

Here are the links if anyone doubts what I am saying.

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/4240/avery-bradley

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/assists/sort/avgAssists/qualified/false/position/shooting-guards/count/41

How'd you get rankings of him at SG when ESPN has him as a PG? That's why he's ranked so low in assists. The turnovers per game are also skewed because you used "all" instead of "qualified", this means that bench players who rarely play would rank really high since they don't even have a chance to commit turnovers. I think you did the same thing for FT% since Bradley shot 80.4%. However, he only made 1.5 FT's per game, which over an 82 game season comes out to a pace of 123. On ESPN, it distinctly reads "To qualify, a player must be on pace for 125 free throws made." So Bradley wouldn't even be ranked in the category you said he was 43rd in, which was "qualified shooting guards/FT %".

[SHAQATTACK]

Bass has the worst hands and ball handle in the NBA

That's why nobody wants him.