Celtics offer for Kaman (rumor)

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I didn't read the whole thread but am I the only one not on the Kaman train? Probably.

I'd prefer JaVale McGee.

McGee wants 14 million a year plus to get him now you would need to pick up blatche and give up probably avery+jujuan and the wiz might, might agree

Okafor.  That's the guy.  Money's high, but the performance is pretty solid over time, with quite a few 80 game seasons, too.  No question he's a piece, though.  Might as well pay him and move on to the next piece.

Going forward, Rondo, JGreen, Okafor, plus a bench of the current big 3.  We're good for a couple of years without many more pieces if Bradley, JJJ, and perhaps a draft pick become players.

Just go with Okafor.

[DinTN]

While I like Okafor better as a player, Kaman obviously makes a lot of sense contract-wise.  He leaves Danny with cap space this summer if he decides he wants it.  

I also think some people really underestimate the impact playing with the Core Four could have on him.  

There were many people on this board last year deriding the signing of Shaq because they felt he was done.  Some even went as far as to say that he actually made his previous two teams (Phoenix and Cleveland) worse when he was on the floor.  

Then he came here.

And while the end of the season was disappointing, when he was healthy, the Celtics were the best team in basketball and Shaq was at least reminding people why he was the most dominant offensive force of at least the past decade.  

Why?

Because Shaq went from being expected to be the #2 option on offense in Phoenix and Cleveland to the #5 option here.  So unlike the rest of career where defenses were focusing on how to stop him, stopping him was an afterthought.

Quite frankly, the fact that Perk scored at all (given his propensity to get dribble and get stuffed under the basket or drop the pass) and that BBD looked so good all had to do with opposing defenses giving them good looks all the time.  

And while Kaman certainly isn't Shaq, he's proven his whole career that he's quite a capable scorer.  If he comes here and plays with the best talent and the best passers he's ever played with, I think we can expect him to also play the best basketball of his career.  That may not translate to more PPG, but I think we can certainly see him shoot a higher percentage and have some really great games.  

Well said.

TP

+1  

Make the trade, unless the price is absolutely rediculous. Wilcox is done for the year. JO may not play this year but even if he does we can't rely on him for lots of minutes. I'd like to give this core group one more really good chance at a title.

[Evantime34]

I'm all for the trade. However, A Sherrod on CSN at 6 said that he thinks Kaman will be bought out, in which case giving up players for him might be foolish.

[Who]

I'm all for the trade. However, A Sherrod on CSN at 6 said that he thinks Kaman will be bought out, in which case giving up players for him might be foolish.

If Kaman is bought out, where is Boston on his list of preferences?

I doubt the Celtics are at the top of the pile given the way they have played this season. I expect Kaman will have at least 2-3 teams above the Celtics that he'd rather play for.

I expect Miami is top of the pile. Maybe San Antonio. Possibly Dallas.

Then Boston in the second tier along with Indiana. A couple of others who may or may not pursue Kaman who could also be in the mix -- Orlando, Denver, Atlanta, Portland, Houston.

[theswitch]

I'm all for the trade. However, A Sherrod on CSN at 6 said that he thinks Kaman will be bought out, in which case giving up players for him might be foolish.

If Kaman is bought out, where is Boston on his list of preferences?

I doubt the Celtics are at the top of the pile given the way they have played this season. I expect Kaman will have at least 2-3 teams above the Celtics that he'd rather play for.

I expect Miami is top of the pile. Maybe San Antonio. Possibly Dallas.

NECN said:

According to a league source, Boston would be on his short list of potential destinations.

"You look at what they need and what he brings to the game . . . it would be a great fit, it really would," the source said. "But a lot of things have to happen, and not happen, before that can come about."

[goCeltics]

I'm all for the trade. However, A Sherrod on CSN at 6 said that he thinks Kaman will be bought out, in which case giving up players for him might be foolish.

If Kaman is bought out, where is Boston on his list of preferences?

I doubt the Celtics are at the top of the pile given the way they have played this season. I expect Kaman will have at least 2-3 teams above the Celtics that he'd rather play for.

I expect Miami is top of the pile. Maybe San Antonio. Possibly Dallas.

Then Boston in the second tier along with Indiana. A couple of others who may or may not pursue Kaman who could also be in the mix -- Orlando, Denver, Atlanta, Portland, Houston.

maybe he grew up a celtics fan, no doubt we have the biggest hole, therefore biggest chance for him to shine. If he goes the heat and they win will anyone notice they had kaman @ center.

[tyrone biggums]

I'm all for the trade. However, A Sherrod on CSN at 6 said that he thinks Kaman will be bought out, in which case giving up players for him might be foolish.

If Kaman is bought out, where is Boston on his list of preferences?

I doubt the Celtics are at the top of the pile given the way they have played this season. I expect Kaman will have at least 2-3 teams above the Celtics that he'd rather play for.

I expect Miami is top of the pile. Maybe San Antonio. Possibly Dallas.

Then Boston in the second tier along with Indiana. A couple of others who may or may not pursue Kaman who could also be in the mix -- Orlando, Denver, Atlanta, Portland, Houston.

The interesting thing about Kaman is that he would be a tremendous boost to the Celtics front court. I have no clue if Kaman puts us back into the title hunt but he helps avoid a painful 1st round exit

[Chris]

I'm all for the trade. However, A Sherrod on CSN at 6 said that he thinks Kaman will be bought out, in which case giving up players for him might be foolish.

If Kaman is bought out, where is Boston on his list of preferences?

I doubt the Celtics are at the top of the pile given the way they have played this season. I expect Kaman will have at least 2-3 teams above the Celtics that he'd rather play for.

I expect Miami is top of the pile. Maybe San Antonio. Possibly Dallas.

Then Boston in the second tier along with Indiana. A couple of others who may or may not pursue Kaman who could also be in the mix -- Orlando, Denver, Atlanta, Portland, Houston.

Eh, I actually think the way the C's have played would put them at the top of the list.  They have clearly been a center away from being good, and he would be able to step in right away and have the chance of being the difference between going deep in the playoffs of not as their starting center.

His number one goal in a new team would likely be to build a case for his next contract, and I can't think of a better team to show off his talents than Boston.

With that said, I would be shocked if he is bought out.

[Celtics18]

I'm not trying to hate on the Caveman, but he's the anti-Chris Wilcox.

[Who]

I'm all for the trade. However, A Sherrod on CSN at 6 said that he thinks Kaman will be bought out, in which case giving up players for him might be foolish.

If Kaman is bought out, where is Boston on his list of preferences?

I doubt the Celtics are at the top of the pile given the way they have played this season. I expect Kaman will have at least 2-3 teams above the Celtics that he'd rather play for.

I expect Miami is top of the pile. Maybe San Antonio. Possibly Dallas.

Then Boston in the second tier along with Indiana. A couple of others who may or may not pursue Kaman who could also be in the mix -- Orlando, Denver, Atlanta, Portland, Houston.

Eh, I actually think the way the C's have played would put them at the top of the list.  They have clearly been a center away from being good, and he would be able to step in right away and have the chance of being the difference between going deep in the playoffs of not as their starting center.

His number one goal in a new team would likely be to build a case for his next contract, and I can't think of a better team to show off his talents than Boston.

With that said, I would be shocked if he is bought out.

I'd expect Kaman's #1 goal is to win a title

And Boston are what ... the seventh seed in the East. The 14th best record in the league.

The Celtics are not amongst the league leaders anymore. They are rarely mentioned as a real title contender. The common perception is that their time has passed.

They are no longer the team who are the first team on every player's lips when they get bought out.

Now maybe they are for Kaman (top of list, title contender in the making). Who knows? That's my point, my concern. Where is Boston on his list? Are they up at the top of it or are they a few rungs down?

If you really want Kaman, can you risk him getting bought out? Will he really come here ahead of other places?

[Evantime34]

I'm all for the trade. However, A Sherrod on CSN at 6 said that he thinks Kaman will be bought out, in which case giving up players for him might be foolish.

If Kaman is bought out, where is Boston on his list of preferences?

I doubt the Celtics are at the top of the pile given the way they have played this season. I expect Kaman will have at least 2-3 teams above the Celtics that he'd rather play for.

I expect Miami is top of the pile. Maybe San Antonio. Possibly Dallas.

NECN said:

According to a league source, Boston would be on his short list of potential destinations.

"You look at what they need and what he brings to the game . . . it would be a great fit, it really would," the source said. "But a lot of things have to happen, and not happen, before that can come about."

I feel that the timing of saying he's on their short list is curious at best.

[LooseCannon]

NECN said:

According to a league source, Boston would be on his short list of potential destinations.

"You look at what they need and what he brings to the game . . . it would be a great fit, it really would," the source said. "But a lot of things have to happen, and not happen, before that can come about."

That sounds more like saying that Boston should be on his list, not that it is.

[DinTN]

I'm all for the trade. However, A Sherrod on CSN at 6 said that he thinks Kaman will be bought out, in which case giving up players for him might be foolish.

If Kaman is bought out, where is Boston on his list of preferences?

I doubt the Celtics are at the top of the pile given the way they have played this season. I expect Kaman will have at least 2-3 teams above the Celtics that he'd rather play for.

I expect Miami is top of the pile. Maybe San Antonio. Possibly Dallas.

NECN said:

According to a league source, Boston would be on his short list of potential destinations.

"You look at what they need and what he brings to the game . . . it would be a great fit, it really would," the source said. "But a lot of things have to happen, and not happen, before that can come about."

I feel that the timing of saying he's on their short list is curious at best.

If NO could get even a second round pick, wouldn't they (i.e. NBA i.e. Stern) rather have something vs. letting him go for nothing in a buyout?

[European NBA fan]

If Kaman is showcasing himself tonight against the Lakers, he is doing a pretty good job. 13 points 6 rebounds in the first half.

[greensquirrel]

If Kaman is showcasing himself tonight against the Lakers, he is doing a pretty good job. 13 points 6 rebounds in the first half.

I thought the same thing. He's given Bynum some trouble, too.