Celtics offer for Kaman (rumor)

[theswitch]

I would do JJJ, Wilcox, JO and Dooling in a heart beat for Kaman in a heart beat. It makes us better this year, we get to keep both our firsts and it gives us an extra million + going into free agency next year.

I'd also be extremely interested in how Danny fills out the rest of the roster with 3 spots to fill.

[HUD4]

How can ANYONE say they wouldn't take Kaman at this point?! He's a LEGIT center, and can score! If all we give up is JaJuan, I do it. It helps us get to the playoffs, helps us move on past the 1st round and he could be the center for our future. I saw today that the Hornets want to unload him pretty badly and would accept a 2nd round pick. Either way Boston NEEDS this guy. Get Kaman, add another cheap big through trade or FA (Earl Barron?) and then add a bought out guy (Stephen Jackson) we'd be back in contention

[hpantazo]

this would be a great trade for the celtics, I can't see how anyone would not want this deal. It gives us a legit center who can score inside and rebound, for basically nothing. JJJ doesn't play, and JO and Wilcox are done. We still maintain cap space this summer, and significantly improve the team this year.

[Evantime34]

I would do JJJ, Wilcox, JO and Dooling in a heart beat for Kaman in a heart beat. It makes us better this year, we get to keep both our firsts and it gives us an extra million + going into free agency next year.

I'd also be extremely interested in how Danny fills out the rest of the roster with 3 spots to fill.

I think he'd hope and pray that we can fill them with buyouts like Diaw. If not probably d league guys.

[snively]

I'd like to keep Garnett at center. He's been playing great there.

Getting Garnett more big man help is a priority but I wouldn't necessarily be looking for a center. I'd prefer a power forward if possible.

I'm fairly confident Doc would stick with KG as the starting 5 and bring Kaman off the bench.

I wonder if Kaman would be more efficient with us.  He's been really bad around the rim this year, shooting around 50% in that range and getting almost 10% of his shots blocked.  But he's been great with that mid-range jumpshot.

No way we bring Kaman off the bench.

Yeah, I don't think there is any chance of that either although it would be my preference to do so.

What makes you think so?  Doc stated plainly that he would start Bass over JO even if JO came back healthy.  Talked about how much he liked KG's advantages at the 5.

I think he'd stick to his guns and value speed in the starting line-up, and slot Kaman into the role Wilcox and Stiemsma have filled.

Thats because we had no choice and were awful with JO at center it wasnt working. I like the move let's do it one last run ya never know what happens.

It was the lack of speed that I believe bothered Doc most about starting JO.  If there's anyone in the NBA slower than JO, it's Kaman. 

[Eddie20]

I would do JJJ, Wilcox, JO and Dooling in a heart beat for Kaman in a heart beat. It makes us better this year, we get to keep both our firsts and it gives us an extra million + going into free agency next year.

I'd also be extremely interested in how Danny fills out the rest of the roster with 3 spots to fill.

I think he'd hope and pray that we can fill them with buyouts like Diaw. If not probably d league guys.

I would want Gadzuric.

[nickagneta]

Kaman is a legit center--younger and better than Camby.  JJJ is quite possibly too frail to play in the NBA he can shoot but will he ever be able to guard anyone?

We haven't had a center of Kaman's quality since Perk and Perk was never an all star.  Kaman would make us a contender.

WAY too early to say that JJJ is too frail to play in the NBA.  There have been many players who came into the league too small and balked up.  He's a good hard worker with a good skill set that needs to put on a minmum of 20 to 30 pounds.  

Here's the problem with this. JJJ has been trying to pack on the pounds for 4 years. He's not a 19 year old, one and done college kid. He's a 4 year college player that had an extra long summer before playing NBA basketball to bulk up as much as possible.

And it hasn't happened.

He needs to add a lot of size and muscle to his lower body. He's a strong guy in his upper body but just doesn't have the overall mass and may not have the physiological makeup to ever get the mass he needs to succeed as a post defender in the NBA.

Personally I don't believe his stated weight. I bet he's more like 210 pounds.

[pearljammer10]

Can't you get a better prospect than JJJ with 15-20 picks in this draft?

This is my logic here. I would hate to see both Wilcox and JO go personally... But if they arent going to play the season, Im a OK with bringing in Kaman for the deal.

[snively]

I would do JJJ, Wilcox, JO and Dooling in a heart beat for Kaman in a heart beat. It makes us better this year, we get to keep both our firsts and it gives us an extra million + going into free agency next year.

I'd also be extremely interested in how Danny fills out the rest of the roster with 3 spots to fill.

I think he'd hope and pray that we can fill them with buyouts like Diaw. If not probably d league guys.

I'd like Diaw alongside Kaman for a bench backcourt.  I think he could get a lot out of Pietrus, Kaman and even Bradley offensively.

[Evantime34]

I'd like to keep Garnett at center. He's been playing great there.

Getting Garnett more big man help is a priority but I wouldn't necessarily be looking for a center. I'd prefer a power forward if possible.

I'm fairly confident Doc would stick with KG as the starting 5 and bring Kaman off the bench.

I wonder if Kaman would be more efficient with us.  He's been really bad around the rim this year, shooting around 50% in that range and getting almost 10% of his shots blocked.  But he's been great with that mid-range jumpshot.

No way we bring Kaman off the bench.

Yeah, I don't think there is any chance of that either although it would be my preference to do so.

What makes you think so?  Doc stated plainly that he would start Bass over JO even if JO came back healthy.  Talked about how much he liked KG's advantages at the 5.

I think he'd stick to his guns and value speed in the starting line-up, and slot Kaman into the role Wilcox and Stiemsma have filled.

Thats because we had no choice and were awful with JO at center it wasnt working. I like the move let's do it one last run ya never know what happens.

It was the lack of speed that I believe bothered Doc most about starting JO.  If there's anyone in the NBA slower than JO, it's Kaman. 

You sure it wasn't JO's inability to score (even on lightly contested layups) for a team that goes on long scoring droughts?

[Eddie20]

http://www.necn.com/03/14/12/Source-Kaman-interested-in-joining-Celti/landing_sports.html?blockID=669798&feedID=3352

OAKLAND, Calif. — The Boston Celtics are very much in the market for a center and will certainly look to make a move prior to the trading deadline.

But if the C's fail to land a much-needed big man prior to tomorrow's 3 p.m. deadline, all is not lost in their quest to add size.

New Orleans center Chris Kaman has been on the trading block for a while, with the asking price seemingly dropping by the minute.

He's earning more than $14 million this season, which as you can imagine, has scared off a number of potential suitors.

If the Hornets can't move him via trade, you can anticipate talks about a buy-out to begin soon.

That would allow him to become a free agent and sign with any team of his choosing.
 
According to a league source, Boston would be on his short list of potential destinations.

"You look at what they need and what he brings to the game . . . it would be a great fit, it really would," the source said. "But a lot of things have to happen, and not happen, before that can come about."

In the meantime, Boston (22-19) will try to make due with a lineup that's significantly smaller than anticipated. Jermaine O'Neal (wrist) and Chris Wilcox (heart-related issues) are both out indefinitely, although Ainge said he hopes to have more answers on the futures of both players prior to tomorrow's deadline.

Short of adding Kaman or another big man that could be bought out after the trading deadline, Ainge has said he's willing to ride this season out with the guys he currently has on the roster.
 
"Of course we'd like to be healthier and have a few more wins," Ainge told CSNNE.com. "But . . . you can see we are getting better in a lot of areas."

In addition to Kaman, other big men that have been linked with the Celtics in recent weeks include the freakishly athletic Wizards big man JaVale McGee, Minnesota lefty Michael Beasley and Indiana's Tyler Hansbrough.

[HUD4]

JaVale McGee to Boston? Where did that come from? I figured they could have a shot at him, but I didn't know it was actually a possibility! And yes I'd hate losing Wilcox and Johnson too, but the good thing about Wilcox is he can come back next year! 

[Geo123]

Kaman is a legit center--younger and better than Camby.  JJJ is quite possibly too frail to play in the NBA he can shoot but will he ever be able to guard anyone?

We haven't had a center of Kaman's quality since Perk and Perk was never an all star.  Kaman would make us a contender.

WAY too early to say that JJJ is too frail to play in the NBA.  There have been many players who came into the league too small and balked up.  He's a good hard worker with a good skill set that needs to put on a minmum of 20 to 30 pounds.  

Here's the problem with this. JJJ has been trying to pack on the pounds for 4 years. He's not a 19 year, one and done college kid. He's a 4 year college player that had an extra long summer before playing NBA basketball to bulk up as much as possible.

And it hasn't happened.

He needs to add a lot of size and muscle to his lower body. He's a strong guy in his upper body but just doesn't have the overall mass and may not have the physiological makeup to ever get the mass he needs to succeed as a post defender in the NBA.

Personally I don't believe his stated weight. I bet he's more like 210 pounds.

No that's not what happened with JJJ.  I live only a few hours from West Lafeyette (Purdue) and have seen him play numerous times.  He came to Purdue at maybe 200 pounds (probably closer to 195) and now weighs about 225.  So he gained at least 25 pounds in 4 years while maintaining his foot speed and quickness.

He definitely does need more weight but there have been several people who have gianed weight while they've been in the NBA.  One of those guys is our current starting center, KG.

[snively]

I'd like to keep Garnett at center. He's been playing great there.

Getting Garnett more big man help is a priority but I wouldn't necessarily be looking for a center. I'd prefer a power forward if possible.

I'm fairly confident Doc would stick with KG as the starting 5 and bring Kaman off the bench.

I wonder if Kaman would be more efficient with us.  He's been really bad around the rim this year, shooting around 50% in that range and getting almost 10% of his shots blocked.  But he's been great with that mid-range jumpshot.

No way we bring Kaman off the bench.

Yeah, I don't think there is any chance of that either although it would be my preference to do so.

What makes you think so?  Doc stated plainly that he would start Bass over JO even if JO came back healthy.  Talked about how much he liked KG's advantages at the 5.

I think he'd stick to his guns and value speed in the starting line-up, and slot Kaman into the role Wilcox and Stiemsma have filled.

Thats because we had no choice and were awful with JO at center it wasnt working. I like the move let's do it one last run ya never know what happens.

It was the lack of speed that I believe bothered Doc most about starting JO.  If there's anyone in the NBA slower than JO, it's Kaman. 

You sure it wasn't JO's inability to score (even on lightly contested layups) for a team that goes on long scoring droughts?

That didn't help, but KG's inability to consistently take advantage of opposing PFs would hinder the offense even if JO was a more dangerous offensive player.

And it's not like Kaman's that much better than JO offensively.  Both of them are good candidates to get stuffed at the rim and shoot bricks off of post-ups.

The main advantages for Kaman are his superior mid-range J and his above-average rebounding ability.  The mid-range J, especially, might tempt Doc to start him, but I think he'd ultimately go for Bass' speed.

[ManUp]

It's a win now move that I wouldn't mind at all. JJ hasn't shown any real value yet so no reason to get attatched. I would much rather keep our picks which will probably end up being more valuable prospects if not better. How many players do the Hornets have on their roster, the deal doesn't work salary wise they'd have to take back more guys.