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What will Tebow be the NFL equivalent of?

0 - Jason White or Tommie Frasier. Your grandkid will say "Tim who?"
1 (1.6%)
1 - Eric Crouch. Not an NFL QB. Not an NFL player. Barely a CFL QB
6 (9.8%)
2 -  Tee Martin or Adrian McPherson or something. Drafted as a backup, but still doesn't make it
2 (3.3%)
3 - Todd Collins or maybe Danny Weurfeulish Career backup
1 (1.6%)
4 - Chris Simms or Rex Grossman or something. Will tease and make some starts, and show some potential but that's about it.
5 (8.2%)
5 - Brady Quinn. Not your biggest problem on the team, but not really a solution either. Nobody knows what to do with him.
2 (3.3%)
6 - Trent Ewardsish. - Will play and give you a chance to win, but that's about it.
3 (4.9%)
7 - Trent Dilfer or possibly Chad Pennington. - Will do some winning at times. May get to one Pro Bowl, but not one of the best of his era
8 (13.1%)
8 - Matt Ryan/Joe Flacco or Matt Hasselbeck/Aaron Rogersish or something. Good from day 1 or waits his turn and does well. Good enough to do winning and give hope for big things.
4 (6.6%)
9 - Drew Brees or Phillip Rivers. A very good QB in his era.
2 (3.3%)
10 - Manning, Brady, Montanaish
3 (4.9%)
Not Applicable. - Michael Robinson, Julian Edelmen, Brad Smithish
5 (8.2%)
Not in these categories. More like John Beck or Patrick Ramsey. Just a wasted high pick most likely.
1 (1.6%)
Collosal Bust ala Cade McNown, Tim Couch, Ryan Leaf cause someone will draft him very high
3 (4.9%)
Doug Flutie. Break the rules. Change the game
15 (24.6%)

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Re: What will Tebow be the NFL equivalent of?
« Reply #105 on: November 08, 2011, 06:50:48 AM »

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38 rushes, 298 yards for a 7.8 average.  Kind of hard to lose when your team does that.
But he himself gained a ton of those yards with I think a 9.3 yard average. If Cam Newton did that people would fall all over themselves
The Broncos ran the option.  I mean seriously, the option.   
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Re: What will Tebow be the NFL equivalent of?
« Reply #106 on: November 08, 2011, 07:34:32 AM »

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Did anyone else hear the quote from Elway that Tebow was close to being pulled and that his starting is still on a week to week bases?

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« Reply #107 on: November 08, 2011, 07:48:38 AM »

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38 rushes, 298 yards for a 7.8 average.  Kind of hard to lose when your team does that.
But he himself gained a ton of those yards with I think a 9.3 yard average. If Cam Newton did that people would fall all over themselves
The Broncos ran the option.  I mean seriously, the option.   
Whatever works.  Let people stop it

Re: What will Tebow be the NFL equivalent of?
« Reply #108 on: November 08, 2011, 08:02:34 AM »

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38 rushes, 298 yards for a 7.8 average.  Kind of hard to lose when your team does that.
But he himself gained a ton of those yards with I think a 9.3 yard average. If Cam Newton did that people would fall all over themselves
The Broncos ran the option.  I mean seriously, the option.   
Whatever works.  Let people stop it


They will.  Most teams will stop the option.

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« Reply #109 on: November 08, 2011, 08:10:08 AM »

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38 rushes, 298 yards for a 7.8 average.  Kind of hard to lose when your team does that.
But he himself gained a ton of those yards with I think a 9.3 yard average. If Cam Newton did that people would fall all over themselves
The Broncos ran the option.  I mean seriously, the option.   
Whatever works.  Let people stop it


They will.  Most teams will stop the option.
The Broncos need help. Someone call Tommie Frazer and Ahman Green

Re: What will Tebow be the NFL equivalent of?
« Reply #110 on: November 08, 2011, 09:20:32 AM »

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38 rushes, 298 yards for a 7.8 average.  Kind of hard to lose when your team does that.
But he himself gained a ton of those yards with I think a 9.3 yard average. If Cam Newton did that people would fall all over themselves
The Broncos ran the option.  I mean seriously, the option.   
Whatever works.  Let people stop it


They will.  Most teams will stop the option.
The Broncos need help. Someone call Tommie Frazer and Ahman Green

I think the most plausible explanation beyond divine intervention is 'Tim Tebow is like the Wildcat formation. As long as he gets a little lucky with his throws and doesn't turn the ball over too much, he'll go okay until teams figure him out. Once they figure him out though, he'll be done.'

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« Reply #111 on: November 13, 2011, 04:22:53 PM »

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Tim Tebow man.  2-8 with a TD and a win.  This defies all logic and everything we thought we knew about football. 

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Tim Tebow man.  2-8 with a TD and a win.  This defies all logic and everything we thought we knew about football. 

The Broncos threw the ball 8 times, and won. And thew averaged what, 35 yards a pass completion, with one of them for a TD? AND they lost not only their first option RB, and their second option RB? AND THEY STILL WON?! AN NFL GAME?!

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Tim Tebow man.  2-8 with a TD and a win.  This defies all logic and everything we thought we knew about football. 

Let's remember he was playing the Chiefs.

But yeah, Tebow is essentially a passing running back.  Very odd.  I don't see how it would have success against a good defense, though.
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« Reply #114 on: November 13, 2011, 06:26:35 PM »

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Tim Tebow man.  2-8 with a TD and a win.  This defies all logic and everything we thought we knew about football.  

The Broncos threw the ball 8 times, and won. And thew averaged what, 35 yards a pass completion, with one of them for a TD? AND they lost not only their first option RB, and their second option RB? AND THEY STILL WON?! AN NFL GAME?!

REPENT, FOR THE END IS NIGH!
That's what I'm saying!  It's the revenge of Eric Crouch. His rating was 102
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« Reply #115 on: November 14, 2011, 09:26:17 AM »

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Tim Tebow man.  2-8 with a TD and a win.  This defies all logic and everything we thought we knew about football. 


Puts him on the same lists as Akili Smith and Derek Anderson.

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« Reply #116 on: November 14, 2011, 02:22:27 PM »

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38 rushes, 298 yards for a 7.8 average.  Kind of hard to lose when your team does that.
But he himself gained a ton of those yards with I think a 9.3 yard average. If Cam Newton did that people would fall all over themselves
The Broncos ran the option.  I mean seriously, the option.   
Whatever works.  Let people stop it


They will.  Most teams will stop the option.

Tebow is now 5-2 as an NFL starter, including going 3-1 with the same team that went 1-4 with Kyle Orton, except without the team's best receiver.

There's something weird about the almost personal animosity people have toward Tebow.  There have been plenty of 1st QB picks who proved they couldn't play in the league.  None of them got 1/10th as much criticism as a guy with a 5-2 record as a starter.

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38 rushes, 298 yards for a 7.8 average.  Kind of hard to lose when your team does that.
But he himself gained a ton of those yards with I think a 9.3 yard average. If Cam Newton did that people would fall all over themselves
The Broncos ran the option.  I mean seriously, the option.   
Whatever works.  Let people stop it


They will.  Most teams will stop the option.

Tebow is now 5-2 as an NFL starter, including going 3-1 with the same team that went 1-4 with Kyle Orton, except without the team's best receiver.

There's something weird about the almost personal animosity people have toward Tebow.  There have been plenty of 1st QB picks who proved they couldn't play in the league.  None of them got 1/10th as much criticism as a guy with a 5-2 record as a starter.

Mike

Just as weird is the nearly reverential devotion people have to a player on the field, for qualities that he has off the field.

And I'm not directing it at you specifically, I'm saying both sides probably have the right of it. Tim Tebow is by all counts a good-hearted, well-intentioned young man with a strong connection to God. He also lacks the main qualities (ie a proficient throwing ability and skill at reading a defense) to be a traditional NFL QB.

History dictates that he'll get found out and exposed eventually (barring further divine intervention). NFL defenses are just too smart, too quick, too good to get suckered long term by the option offense. That's what common sense tells you.

But, right now, Tebow supporters are screaming 'scoreboard' at the top of their lungs, and they deserve to.

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This stretch coming up in when Tebow can really start opening my eyes.   Beating up on the dregs of the league (MIA & KC) plus a listless OAK hasn't done squat for me.  Let's not underestimate the contributions of the DEN defense here, either.

Next 5 games: NYJ, @SD, @MIN, CHI, NE. 

Tebow's going to need to throw the ball if he's going to win those games.


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Don't really have time to look up my source, but I either read or saw on ESPN a quote that perfectly explains why Tebow is successful.

Champ Bailey:  "I know it sounds bad, but when Tim is the quarterback, I just play harder."

This is coming from Champ Bailey.  People wonder what this "ability to win" is and if Tebow will be "figured out" and how a quarterback who can't throw or has poor mechanics will be able to succeed in the NFL... but the bottom line is that if he has this uncanny ability to make 21 other players on the field ALL perform at higher levels, then he will likely be successful.
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