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What will Tebow be the NFL equivalent of?

0 - Jason White or Tommie Frasier. Your grandkid will say "Tim who?"
1 (1.6%)
1 - Eric Crouch. Not an NFL QB. Not an NFL player. Barely a CFL QB
6 (9.8%)
2 -  Tee Martin or Adrian McPherson or something. Drafted as a backup, but still doesn't make it
2 (3.3%)
3 - Todd Collins or maybe Danny Weurfeulish Career backup
1 (1.6%)
4 - Chris Simms or Rex Grossman or something. Will tease and make some starts, and show some potential but that's about it.
5 (8.2%)
5 - Brady Quinn. Not your biggest problem on the team, but not really a solution either. Nobody knows what to do with him.
2 (3.3%)
6 - Trent Ewardsish. - Will play and give you a chance to win, but that's about it.
3 (4.9%)
7 - Trent Dilfer or possibly Chad Pennington. - Will do some winning at times. May get to one Pro Bowl, but not one of the best of his era
8 (13.1%)
8 - Matt Ryan/Joe Flacco or Matt Hasselbeck/Aaron Rogersish or something. Good from day 1 or waits his turn and does well. Good enough to do winning and give hope for big things.
4 (6.6%)
9 - Drew Brees or Phillip Rivers. A very good QB in his era.
2 (3.3%)
10 - Manning, Brady, Montanaish
3 (4.9%)
Not Applicable. - Michael Robinson, Julian Edelmen, Brad Smithish
5 (8.2%)
Not in these categories. More like John Beck or Patrick Ramsey. Just a wasted high pick most likely.
1 (1.6%)
Collosal Bust ala Cade McNown, Tim Couch, Ryan Leaf cause someone will draft him very high
3 (4.9%)
Doug Flutie. Break the rules. Change the game
15 (24.6%)

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Re: What will Tebow be the NFL equivalent of?
« Reply #45 on: October 20, 2011, 10:48:57 PM »

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http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/page/hotread-Tebow/nfl-tim-tebow-was-denver-broncos-best-only-choice-quarterback-espn-magazine

very interesting article about the whole Tebow experience in Denver. It seems like it's very much from the heartland.

Very long but well written

The ending is interesting where I guess all 3 Denver QBs were in the locker room near each other after last week's close loss where Tebow came back and almost won against the Chargers. A Bronco player yelled "Tebow Nation Baby!" and not any of the QBs had any reaction to it at all.

After the comeback non-win's last pass was dropped people didn't make a sound and then 70,000 people started chanting "Te - bow"

During a week 4 blowout Green Bay fans in Green Bay joined visiting Denver fans in chanting for Tebow.

I knew this kid was bigger than football, but I'm starting to think people's love of him says more about us than him.  He is the anti-sports-villain.  He is the anti-Farve. He's the anti-Lebron. The anti-A-Rod.

It's not really fair that all this is on his shoulders. But it is.  Now we get to see what happens.

The kid is getting to cult of personality level and he's not even trying and that's how it's happening. Muslim Americans are taking out billboards to support him. The kid is ordained by us. Has this ever happened before?  

To me personally I think what's happening is that this Christian virgin who was "supposed" to be aborted is basically the Christian Jackie Robinson. Everyone can love Jackie Robinson and Larry Doby. And Hank Aaron. And Josh Gibson.  He's kinda like them. People feel like "If you don't like Tebow you don't like me".  

I feel like he's the biggest individual sports story of my time. Kinda a wee bit like Doug Flutie but way way waaaayyyyy bigger.  Doug was the little engine that could. This is like "What would happen if Jesus played football instead of preached?"  

Sometimes I think if worse comes to worse Tebow is going out with a bang. Like instead of just fading away he'll do something big and intriguing like maybe setting records in the CFL or coaching a team to a national championship younger than anyone. Something like that. You know how many kids would want to play for him? You know how many parents would want him to take their boys?

What happens if he runs for Congress like Heath Shuler?  If he runs in a contested Tea Party state......ever seen someone get 100% of the vote?
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Re: What will Tebow be the NFL equivalent of?
« Reply #46 on: October 24, 2011, 06:54:18 PM »

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That win was the winning equivalent of the loss he had at San Diego, except he started. It's a win but it sorta feels like a loss

Next week we get to look at this again. One heck of  a drama
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Re: What will Tebow be the NFL equivalent of?
« Reply #47 on: October 24, 2011, 08:00:09 PM »

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Quote from: eja117 on October 24, 2011, 06:54:18 PM
That win was the winning equivalent of the loss he had at San Diego, except he started. It's a win but it sorta feels like a loss

Next week we get to look at this again. One heck of  a drama

I am not really deep into the craze you (and the article)describe in your previous post.  Outside the sports world I think Tim Tebow is still about as well known as I am.  I guarantee that my wife and kids (20 and 16) have never heard of him -- I'll check.

With regard to football and his mission, he is not yet even the second coming of Kyle Orton, though in fairness it took JC a while to get a message across (though TB sent His message in Year 2). 

That said, I wish him the best -- seems like a very decent person and quite an athlete.  Who knows -- Andrew Lloyd Webber may yet have another Superstar to sing about.
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Re: What will Tebow be the NFL equivalent of?
« Reply #48 on: October 26, 2011, 02:55:49 PM »

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http://sports.espn.go.com/fantasy/football/ffl/story?page=11ranksWeek8QB

interesting. Tebow is ranked 11th in fantasy football QBs.  Doesn't mean much. But still
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Re: What will Tebow be the NFL equivalent of?
« Reply #49 on: October 31, 2011, 07:58:31 AM »

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This is my only defense of Tebow this week...When the Lions beat the crud out of the KC Chiefs this year 48-3 and Matt Cassell played way way worse than Tebow did this week nobody said Cassell can't play in this league.

On to next week.
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Re: What will Tebow be the NFL equivalent of?
« Reply #50 on: October 31, 2011, 08:49:19 AM »

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Cade McNown.
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Re: What will Tebow be the NFL equivalent of?
« Reply #51 on: October 31, 2011, 09:39:19 AM »

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Quote from: eja117 on October 31, 2011, 07:58:31 AM
This is my only defense of Tebow this week...When the Lions beat the crud out of the KC Chiefs this year 48-3 and Matt Cassell played way way worse than Tebow did this week nobody said Cassell can't play in this league.

On to next week.
Cassel was 15 of 22.  He had 3 picks, but his completion percentage was significantly better then Tebow.  Cassel also had 3 full seasons of success under his belt.  

Tebow has never shown the ability to consistently hit the broad side of a barn.  His completion percentage is terrible and his decision making isn't much better.  Tebow is an awful NFL QB.  He just is.  He will have his moments, like in the Miami game, but infrequent moments do not make a NFL QB.
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Re: What will Tebow be the NFL equivalent of?
« Reply #52 on: October 31, 2011, 10:06:07 AM »

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Quote from: Roy H. on October 31, 2011, 08:49:19 AM
Cade McNown.
Ok. That's fair.  I see that. At least Cade with way more rushing skills and leadership skills. Less distracted by models.
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« Reply #53 on: October 31, 2011, 10:19:24 AM »

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Quote from: eja117 on October 31, 2011, 10:06:07 AM
Quote from: Roy H. on October 31, 2011, 08:49:19 AM
Cade McNown.
Ok. That's fair.  I see that. At least Cade with way more rushing skills and leadership skills. Less distracted by models.

Hey, in his second year, McNown averaged 32.6 rushing yards per game, and 6.5 yards per rushing attempt.  That's in line with your boy's numbers.
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Re: What will Tebow be the NFL equivalent of?
« Reply #54 on: October 31, 2011, 10:30:27 AM »

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The better question,


Which position will Tebow try next?
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Re: What will Tebow be the NFL equivalent of?
« Reply #55 on: October 31, 2011, 10:32:34 AM »

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Quote from: Roy H. on October 31, 2011, 10:19:24 AM
Quote from: eja117 on October 31, 2011, 10:06:07 AM
Quote from: Roy H. on October 31, 2011, 08:49:19 AM
Cade McNown.
Ok. That's fair.  I see that. At least Cade with way more rushing skills and leadership skills. Less distracted by models.

Hey, in his second year, McNown averaged 32.6 rushing yards per game, and 6.5 yards per rushing attempt.  That's in line with your boy's numbers.
Similar touchdowns?

To paraphrase Homer.....You don't got to tell it like it is Roy
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« Reply #56 on: October 31, 2011, 11:19:52 AM »

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A 46.1% completion rate is downright pathetic for an NFL quarterback.   
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Re: What will Tebow be the NFL equivalent of?
« Reply #57 on: October 31, 2011, 11:38:31 AM »

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Wow, when Tebow doesn't heroically lead a comeback, those completion %'s and decision making just hog all the press, huh?
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Re: What will Tebow be the NFL equivalent of?
« Reply #58 on: October 31, 2011, 12:28:42 PM »

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Quote from: Donoghus on October 31, 2011, 11:19:52 AM
A 46.1% completion rate is downright pathetic for an NFL quarterback.   
no reason to put NFL in your statement
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Re: What will Tebow be the NFL equivalent of?
« Reply #59 on: October 31, 2011, 12:38:44 PM »

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Quote from: IndeedProceed on October 31, 2011, 11:38:31 AM
Wow, when Tebow doesn't heroically lead a comeback, those completion %'s and decision making just hog all the press, huh?
True. I don't remember Cade McNown leading lots of heroic come backs.

I still don't think Tebow is a guy a lot of teams want to be playing in the 4th quarter if they're only up by 10 or less. Would you rather go into the 4th quarter with that kind of lead against him or against Kevin Kolb or Alex Smith or Tavaris Jackson or Jason Campbell? Let alone very young QBs like Colt McCoy or Blaine Gabbert or Ricky Stanzi
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