A.I. will NOTsign with the Knicks. Still an UFA. Are the C's still an option?

[Finkelskyhook]

I am just sick and tired of you conservative fans who said no to Corey Dillon, no to Randy Moss, and no to Stephon Marbury only to see them succeed. We don't want to hear your bickering about how Iverson is a cancer and not worth it. Iverson is one of the greatest scorers of all time, he does not have a ring to his name, and he's not even going to consider "acting up" with personalities like KG and Sheed in the locker room with him. Could you maybe use some logic? Thanks.

Marbury did not succeed. I did not turn down Randy Moss in the least when the Patriots got him. I was shocked that we only had to trade a 4th round pick for him. It was clear to most people that the Raiders' meltdown was starting.

Please calm yourself down, your hotheadedness. 

There is a 180 degree difference how Belichick handles his team and how Rivers handles his.  Malcontents under Belichick comply or disappear.  Rivers whines publicly about his until Danny idiot-proofs the roster for him.  Rivers has no history of competently handling even the slightest headcase.  Think Iverson, the ayatollah of malcontents, will suddenly dramatically morph into Ray Allen because he's walked into the presence of Doc Rivers?  Think the great selfish malcontent will melt at the sound of some idiotic theme word?  Do you think if he wouldn't play defense for Larry Brown that he will 10 years later for Rivers?  

The only thing Iverson has proven is that he is not willing to come off the bench for a loser team.

Detroit was a playoff team.  

Could you have taken that quote out of context anymore than you did?

Which incoherent whining, selfish, alienating Iverson quote could we apply that question to?

[jackson_34]

Here's the plan...

Danny asks AI if "we (an ACTUAL contender) signed you to the minimum and only needed you to play 15-20mins tops as a backup guard nothing else, would you be comfortable playing this role?"

Option 1
AI says no, we move on.

Option 2 AI says yes. We sign him to a vets min, if he acts up we ship him out before the all-star break, him being well aware (like marbury) that his role would be a backup. The team has plenty of time to recover from the damage done by Iverson (none) and gets back to banner 18.

[nickagneta]

Can one of the AI lovers explain this:

If AI is so great, why is it 7 months after becoming a restricted free agent and one full month into the regular season, he remains unemployed? Are the other 29 general managers in the league besides Chris Wallace just incompetent dolts that can't recognize what a prime example of an NBA player Iverson is? Do the other 29 coaches in the league besides Lionel Hollins such idiots that they aren't clamoring all over their front offices begging them to sign Iverson because he is such a joy to coach and manage?

The AI love logic flies in the face of what is actually happening in the NBA. If AI was so great and such an easy player to handle and an excellent addition to compliment a championship team, wouldn't someone have picked him up long before this? Wouldn't there be rumors all over the place of teams like Orlando and Boston and Cleveland and LA and Phoenix and Atlanta wanting to grab him up?

Please, answer me the questions in this post, please.

[moiso]

Can one of the AI lovers explain this:

If AI is so great, why is it 7 months after becoming a restricted free agent and one full month into the regular season, he remains unemployed? Are the other 29 general managers in the league besides Chris Wallace just incompetent dolts that can't recognize what a prime example of an NBA player Iverson is? Do the other 29 coaches in the league besides Lionel Hollins such idiots that they aren't clamoring all over their front offices begging them to sign Iverson because he is such a joy to coach and manage?

The AI love logic flies in the face of what is actually happening in the NBA. If AI was so great and such an easy player to handle and an excellent addition to compliment a championship team, wouldn't someone have picked him up long before this? Wouldn't there be rumors all over the place of teams like Orlando and Boston and Cleveland and LA and Phoenix and Atlanta wanting to grab him up?

Please, answer me the questions in this post, please.

exactly, where is the bidding war.  It's more like AI is in a begging war.

[LB3533]

He said he was satified because both guys got their points.  Where is the part where I made something up?

But what does he really mean? He means there is no problem with the two playing together.

The quote has no barring on whether winning or losing takes a back seat to scoring.

[moiso]

I'm talking about points!  Not the game, points!  Me and Webber got our points!  Not the actual game that you win or lose, I'm talking about points!

[rondohondo]

Can one of the AI lovers explain this:

If AI is so great, why is it 7 months after becoming a restricted free agent and one full month into the regular season, he remains unemployed? Are the other 29 general managers in the league besides Chris Wallace just incompetent dolts that can't recognize what a prime example of an NBA player Iverson is? Do the other 29 coaches in the league besides Lionel Hollins such idiots that they aren't clamoring all over their front offices begging them to sign Iverson because he is such a joy to coach and manage?

The AI love logic flies in the face of what is actually happening in the NBA. If AI was so great and such an easy player to handle and an excellent addition to compliment a championship team, wouldn't someone have picked him up long before this? Wouldn't there be rumors all over the place of teams like Orlando and Boston and Cleveland and LA and Phoenix and Atlanta wanting to grab him up?

Please, answer me the questions in this post, please.

It's not that he is a great player anymore, but he is still 10x more talented than Marbury was last year and Danny too a gamble on him, so why not on take a gamble on a guy who can still play? It will be the same scenario as Marbury last year, sign him to the vet minimum and if he causes any trouble just cut his ass.  If he gets us 1 win in the playoffs it would be worth it .

[LB3533]

Can one of the AI lovers explain this:

If AI is so great, why is it 7 months after becoming a restricted free agent and one full month into the regular season, he remains unemployed? Are the other 29 general managers in the league besides Chris Wallace just incompetent dolts that can't recognize what a prime example of an NBA player Iverson is? Do the other 29 coaches in the league besides Lionel Hollins such idiots that they aren't clamoring all over their front offices begging them to sign Iverson because he is such a joy to coach and manage?

The AI love logic flies in the face of what is actually happening in the NBA. If AI was so great and such an easy player to handle and an excellent addition to compliment a championship team, wouldn't someone have picked him up long before this? Wouldn't there be rumors all over the place of teams like Orlando and Boston and Cleveland and LA and Phoenix and Atlanta wanting to grab him up?

Please, answer me the questions in this post, please.

Every team already has their plans and strategies set.

But a lot can change throughout the course of the season and it would be a huge mistake to ignore Iverson, when he can be had dirt cheap.

[nickagneta]

Can one of the AI lovers explain this:

If AI is so great, why is it 7 months after becoming a restricted free agent and one full month into the regular season, he remains unemployed? Are the other 29 general managers in the league besides Chris Wallace just incompetent dolts that can't recognize what a prime example of an NBA player Iverson is? Do the other 29 coaches in the league besides Lionel Hollins such idiots that they aren't clamoring all over their front offices begging them to sign Iverson because he is such a joy to coach and manage?

The AI love logic flies in the face of what is actually happening in the NBA. If AI was so great and such an easy player to handle and an excellent addition to compliment a championship team, wouldn't someone have picked him up long before this? Wouldn't there be rumors all over the place of teams like Orlando and Boston and Cleveland and LA and Phoenix and Atlanta wanting to grab him up?

Please, answer me the questions in this post, please.

It's not that he is a great player anymore, but he is still 10x more talented than Marbury was last year and Danny too a gamble on him, so why not on take a gamble on a guy who can still play? It will be the same scenario as Marbury last year, sign him to the vet minimum and if he causes any trouble just cut his ass.  If he gets us 1 win in the playoffs it would be worth it .

You aren't answering the questions.

[moiso]

Can one of the AI lovers explain this:

If AI is so great, why is it 7 months after becoming a restricted free agent and one full month into the regular season, he remains unemployed? Are the other 29 general managers in the league besides Chris Wallace just incompetent dolts that can't recognize what a prime example of an NBA player Iverson is? Do the other 29 coaches in the league besides Lionel Hollins such idiots that they aren't clamoring all over their front offices begging them to sign Iverson because he is such a joy to coach and manage?

The AI love logic flies in the face of what is actually happening in the NBA. If AI was so great and such an easy player to handle and an excellent addition to compliment a championship team, wouldn't someone have picked him up long before this? Wouldn't there be rumors all over the place of teams like Orlando and Boston and Cleveland and LA and Phoenix and Atlanta wanting to grab him up?

Please, answer me the questions in this post, please.

It's not that he is a great player anymore, but he is still 10x more talented than Marbury was last year and Danny too a gamble on him, so why not on take a gamble on a guy who can still play? It will be the same scenario as Marbury last year, sign him to the vet minimum and if he causes any trouble just cut his ass.  If he gets us 1 win in the playoffs it would be worth it .

How can you say AI is 10x better than Marbury was?  Everyone thought Marbury was an awesome signing initially.  Marbury came in and played his role exactly how he was supposed to.  Ball hog point guards just don't look very good when they aren't allowed to hog the ball.

[nickagneta]

Can one of the AI lovers explain this:

If AI is so great, why is it 7 months after becoming a restricted free agent and one full month into the regular season, he remains unemployed? Are the other 29 general managers in the league besides Chris Wallace just incompetent dolts that can't recognize what a prime example of an NBA player Iverson is? Do the other 29 coaches in the league besides Lionel Hollins such idiots that they aren't clamoring all over their front offices begging them to sign Iverson because he is such a joy to coach and manage?

The AI love logic flies in the face of what is actually happening in the NBA. If AI was so great and such an easy player to handle and an excellent addition to compliment a championship team, wouldn't someone have picked him up long before this? Wouldn't there be rumors all over the place of teams like Orlando and Boston and Cleveland and LA and Phoenix and Atlanta wanting to grab him up?

Please, answer me the questions in this post, please.

Every team already has their plans and strategies set.

But a lot can change throughout the course of the season and it would be a huge mistake to ignore Iverson, when he can be had dirt cheap.

Their plans weren't set during the off season when Iverson was avoided like he had the plague?

And since it would cost very little to cut the 15th player on most benches to add Iverson to a vet min contract and since Iverson is supposedly so much better than most of these players(he is), why aren't GMs jumping at the opportunity to sign him? Are they all just stupid, making a huge mistake, as you say? How can so many GMs, some like Ainge, Popovich, Dumars, Riley, Kupchak, etc that have a championship winning pedigree, all be making the same mistake?

[rondohondo]

Can one of the AI lovers explain this:

If AI is so great, why is it 7 months after becoming a restricted free agent and one full month into the regular season, he remains unemployed? Are the other 29 general managers in the league besides Chris Wallace just incompetent dolts that can't recognize what a prime example of an NBA player Iverson is? Do the other 29 coaches in the league besides Lionel Hollins such idiots that they aren't clamoring all over their front offices begging them to sign Iverson because he is such a joy to coach and manage?

The AI love logic flies in the face of what is actually happening in the NBA. If AI was so great and such an easy player to handle and an excellent addition to compliment a championship team, wouldn't someone have picked him up long before this? Wouldn't there be rumors all over the place of teams like Orlando and Boston and Cleveland and LA and Phoenix and Atlanta wanting to grab him up?

Please, answer me the questions in this post, please.

It's not that he is a great player anymore, but he is still 10x more talented than Marbury was last year and Danny too a gamble on him, so why not on take a gamble on a guy who can still play? It will be the same scenario as Marbury last year, sign him to the vet minimum and if he causes any trouble just cut his ass.  If he gets us 1 win in the playoffs it would be worth it .

How can you say AI is 10x better than Marbury was?  Everyone thought Marbury was an awesome signing initially.  Marbury came in and played his role exactly how he was supposed to.  Ball hog point guards just don't look very good when they aren't allowed to hog the ball.

Marbury didn't play for over a year and was all done . Iverson has had the much better career and even made it to the NBA Finals, Marbury never made it out of the 1st round til last year. Thats how I say A.I. is 10x better

[rondohondo]

Can one of the AI lovers explain this:

If AI is so great, why is it 7 months after becoming a restricted free agent and one full month into the regular season, he remains unemployed? Are the other 29 general managers in the league besides Chris Wallace just incompetent dolts that can't recognize what a prime example of an NBA player Iverson is? Do the other 29 coaches in the league besides Lionel Hollins such idiots that they aren't clamoring all over their front offices begging them to sign Iverson because he is such a joy to coach and manage?

The AI love logic flies in the face of what is actually happening in the NBA. If AI was so great and such an easy player to handle and an excellent addition to compliment a championship team, wouldn't someone have picked him up long before this? Wouldn't there be rumors all over the place of teams like Orlando and Boston and Cleveland and LA and Phoenix and Atlanta wanting to grab him up?

Please, answer me the questions in this post, please.

It's not that he is a great player anymore, but he is still 10x more talented than Marbury was last year and Danny too a gamble on him, so why not on take a gamble on a guy who can still play? It will be the same scenario as Marbury last year, sign him to the vet minimum and if he causes any trouble just cut his ass.  If he gets us 1 win in the playoffs it would be worth it .

You aren't answering the questions.

I agree with you that Iverson is not an easy player to handle, thats why all teams are staying away from him. For the C's though they went through a similar situation last year with Marbury coming in and he didn't make a beep( which is exra impressive since we have all seen him eating vaseline and acting like a nut case on the internet). If this locker room is strong enough to handle a nut case like Marbury, why do you think it would be any different with Iverson?

Again , I am not saying just sign him, I said if he agreed to the terms that Marbury did last year, then why not? It is the ultimate low risk high reward situation..

[greenwise]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUYjD7A75HQ

LOL

[rondohondo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUYjD7A75HQ

LOL

Yea because no one on the C's has ever acted immature ...

"It has been a tumultuous ride for the captain, particularly when you consider the unforgettable playoff debacle against the Pacers was only three seasons ago. That was the seven-game series when the favored Celtics imploded, and Pierce was ejected in Game 6 after picking up two technicals, then ripping off his jersey and waving it at the Indianapolis fans. Later, in protest of what he felt was a non-call, he appeared at the postgame press conference performing his best Jacob Marley imitation with gauze wrapped around his jaw.

And that was after the Celtics won.

The fallout was immediate. Pierce was vilified for his sophomoric actions. His leadership and his value to the franchise were questioned. The Celtics seriously considered trading him. "

Winning changes a lot of things. AI was what 26 or 27 when he said that ? I know he has had plenty of problems , but I think winning, a strong coach, and a vet locker room could really keep him in line .