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Simple Question, Will Iverson be wearing green this year?

Yes
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No
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Re: Will The Celtics Sign Allen Iverson? ( POLL)
« Reply #105 on: November 25, 2009, 01:43:01 PM »

Offline LB3533

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I think the Celtics better sign Allen, and not let another team swoop in and take him before we do.

I am in favor of signing AI, this guy has so much left to prove, why wouldn't he be on his best behavior for a championship team?

His NBA career is at a cross roads, he can give up on a franchise like Memphis, but to cause problems with a championship contender would spell the nail in the coffin for Iverson.

We should get him and cut Giddens or trade someone.

Re: Will The Celtics Sign Allen Iverson? ( POLL)
« Reply #106 on: November 25, 2009, 01:51:36 PM »

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I believe it's just a matter of time when Iverson is wearing a Celtics uniform this season. The question is not if it's when.

Re: Will The Celtics Sign Allen Iverson? ( POLL)
« Reply #107 on: November 25, 2009, 01:55:57 PM »

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i dont' think ive even seen a rumor suggesting that the Celtics were even considering signing Iverson.  Why are some people so convinced?

edit:  n/m

I just signed into RealGm and saw it on the front page:  "Celtics considered signing Iverson"... lulz


Re: Will The Celtics Sign Allen Iverson? ( POLL)
« Reply #108 on: November 25, 2009, 01:57:35 PM »

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i dont' think ive even seen a rumor suggesting that the Celtics were even considering signing Iverson.  Why are some people so convinced?

edit:  n/m

I just signed into RealGm and saw it on the front page:  "Celtics considered signing Iverson"... lulz



scroll down on the front page of celticsblog...

Re: Will The Celtics Sign Allen Iverson? ( POLL)
« Reply #109 on: November 25, 2009, 02:04:57 PM »

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I would do it since it would be a minimum contract. Iverson for the league minimum is a great deal

Re: Will The Celtics Sign Allen Iverson? ( POLL)
« Reply #110 on: November 25, 2009, 02:08:15 PM »

Offline LarBrd33

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i dont' think ive even seen a rumor suggesting that the Celtics were even considering signing Iverson.  Why are some people so convinced?

edit:  n/m

I just signed into RealGm and saw it on the front page:  "Celtics considered signing Iverson"... lulz



scroll down on the front page of celticsblog...

Got it.  I missed all that somehow.  But the article pretty much says it aint happening.  SO that's my answer.

Re: Will The Celtics Sign Allen Iverson? ( POLL)
« Reply #111 on: November 25, 2009, 02:20:42 PM »

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Iverson clearly needs a "cooling off period" before signing with anyone to put himself and career in perspective.  I think if he can accept a role like GP did for Miami in their title year, a contender will sign him, and he will help that team.  I would prefer that team to be us.

And his ego can only be kept in check by a locker room full of all stars - his peers.  He was clearly the most accomplished player in Memphis, and consequently had no reason to defer to anyone on that roster.  He would have to respect the rings of our intact starting 5 and fill a bench scorer role backing up Rondo (at least AI can get the ball over halfcourt).  

He is a clear upgrade over Eddie House, right?  (Disclaimer:  I don't think Eddie's shooting helps make up for his assorted weaknesses).

So, although he has been a cancer in the past, I think this team can keep him in check and get the most out of him.  It would allow Daniels to back up the wings where he belongs, and might put us over the hump.

Re: Will The Celtics Sign Allen Iverson? ( POLL)
« Reply #112 on: November 25, 2009, 02:27:47 PM »

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Why would danny even bring this up? Is he trying to prepare c's fans for an A.I coming here?

Re: Will The Celtics Sign Allen Iverson? ( POLL)
« Reply #113 on: November 25, 2009, 02:40:48 PM »

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Why would danny even bring this up? Is he trying to prepare c's fans for an A.I coming here?
Kind of what I'm thinking too.

Re: Will The Celtics Sign Allen Iverson? ( POLL)
« Reply #114 on: November 25, 2009, 02:45:00 PM »

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Why would danny even bring this up? Is he trying to prepare c's fans for an A.I coming here?
Perhaps because reporters asked him about it.

Most comments from GMs aren't initiated by GMs, but by interviewers.

Re: Will The Celtics Sign Allen Iverson? ( POLL)
« Reply #115 on: November 25, 2009, 02:53:17 PM »

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Why would danny even bring this up? Is he trying to prepare c's fans for an A.I coming here?
Perhaps because reporters asked him about it.

Most comments from GMs aren't initiated by GMs, but by interviewers.
but if I recall correctly he has been asked before and said something like Our roster is set , I could be wrong , but I thought I read that or heard that somewhere .

Re: Will The Celtics Sign Allen Iverson? ( POLL)
« Reply #116 on: November 25, 2009, 03:06:22 PM »

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I dont think this team, as currently constituted, wins the championship. I'm not the only one who feels this way. 

I'll trust this opinion if it was your opinion 2 weeks ago.  But if this opinion is based on the last couple of weeks, I really think the conclusion is premature -- just like "72 wins" was a premature prediction.  I think we'll eventually see that the last couple of weeks are not reflective of the true C's. 

Re: Will The Celtics Sign Allen Iverson? ( POLL)
« Reply #117 on: November 25, 2009, 03:44:05 PM »

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       I am gonna upset a lot of people here, but I think there is a really good chance he does. I think if there is one thing that Allen Iverson loves to do it is prove his haters wrong. He always talks about it. For the beginning of his career the people would say he was too small, could not score consistently at the nba level etc (just first few years, quickly proved wrong). Then people started saying he wouldn't be able to stay healthy because of his body size and style of play. Then people started saying he would slow down his scoring, prolly around the time traded to denver, and couldn't co-exist with another elite player. Finally, over the last 6 months to a year it has really gone about people questioning his ability to play, or put in points. To his ability to play for a winning team, for his ability to come off a bench, and his ability to change his team. I know there are people that have questioned this all along. Lets remember though,   until his detroit stint the average fan thought he was doing ok and a good adddition to a team.

     Now with everyone hating on the same thing, will Iverson want to prove the new kind of hate wrong? Will he be willing to play sixth fiddle just so he can win a championship, come off the bench and say "y'all had me wrong i just wanted to win." I actually think there is a chance this is exactly what he wants to do. If this is the case, I think Boston ends up with him. I'm sure a lot of people will disagree and say you can't teach an old dog new tricks, he is a poison, he lasted three games in memphis etc.
Let us remember a few players.
1) Stephon Marbury: One of his biggest problems here was his being too passive! I know his shooting percentage was low, but still he seemed scared to shoot and didn't say a peep about his minutes. There were definitely some posts about his lack of aggression last year. He even tried to play a little defense, though the best he could really do was moving around a lot. We all know that guy is crazy, what can a semi sane person do in this system?
2) Randy Moss: Guy moons the crowd, runs over a parking attendent, quits on players and his team. He becomes so lowly valued we get him for a 4th round pick (somehow jay cutler is worth three first rounders). Now, he is training the practice squad rookies and is all about winning. He even helped Brady's backup and sprinted all over field when it became apparent we were no longer a super bowl threat.
3) Manny Ramirez: Yes this guy is a little different from my previous two examples. I also know he was a lot better player in his sport at the Red Sox time then Iverson is now. However, even at the time the guy was lazy, didn't run out ground balls, was extremely mediocre on defense, made yearly trade demands. Faked injuries. Anything you look up under clubhouse cancer or poison and you can probably find an example of a guy doing it. Yet, the sox won two world series with the guy (I know the championships were coming frequently before his arrival, but still). He filled a need, a huge need. It will be a bigger need then the celtics would need from Iverson, but it is still a need. Basically though, if you have a strong clubhouse and a player is giving your team something it needs, most "cancer" behaviors can be overcome by strong management and player personalities. Which I think we have of both. I also realize Ramirez is the weakest comparison cause of how great he was, but I wanted to remphasize the cancer issue and I also wanted to include all three boston sports team I follow (Sorry Bruins fans, I still root for you in the paper, but I know nothing about hockey.)

 So what is myy point. Perhaps, sometimes a spade is a spade. However, other times its a mud covered diamond. There is a small semi logical argument that Iverson would want to come here, and it would work out. I did my best to make that argument. Happy thanksgiving everyone. PS I am pretty sure this is my longest of my 800+ posts.
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Re: Will The Celtics Sign Allen Iverson? ( POLL)
« Reply #118 on: November 25, 2009, 04:36:26 PM »

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There is a small semi logical argument that Iverson would want to come here, and it would work out.

Danny had to idiot proof both the roster and the coaching staff for Rivers to be even a facsimile of a functional coach.  The product defensively prior to Thibs was cartoonish. 

Using Moss as an argument would require you to compare Belichick to Rivers.  There is no comparison. 

Calling Iverson more sane than Marbury?  hmmm.

Re: Will The Celtics Sign Allen Iverson? ( POLL)
« Reply #119 on: November 25, 2009, 04:40:17 PM »

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Bring him on!

He can anchor the 2nd unit and/or replace Rondo when his shot isn't falling/4th quarter.

He'd have no problem coming off the bench for a title contender (and please don't tell me Detroit was a title contender/winner) and if he did he'd either be put in his place by KG & Co., or Danny would simply cut him like the Grizzlies did.'

Either way Danny hasn't been gun shy about bringing on proven future HOF talent before and I don't see why he'd have reservations about it now.

Iverson might have an attitude but the man wants to WIN A RING and I'd welcome him with open arms if he's on board with filling the packup PG role.
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