A.I. will NOTsign with the Knicks. Still an UFA. Are the C's still an option?

[wdleehi]

You guys really think Iverson would care about his career scoring average if he was on a championship contending team?

Yes, on the freaking Grizzlies, I can understand Iverson using them as a stage to prove he still had game left, and when he wasn't given that opportunity he felt betrayed and quit.

Yes.  He cares more about his scoring.


I remember this quote after a game when Webber joined the 76ers.

"See, I got my points, Webber got his points.  It's not a problem"

[mgent]

OH and BTW Rondo's play could suffer because he doesn't feel comfortable with the organization bringing in another PG.

Then Rondo's a freaking idiot.  Did this happen with Cassel or Marbury?

If Rondo really needs an ego-check that bad I'd prefer we gave it to him now than sometime in the future.

[Tai]

I am just sick and tired of you conservative fans who said no to Corey Dillon, no to Randy Moss, and no to Stephon Marbury only to see them succeed. We don't want to hear your bickering about how Iverson is a cancer and not worth it. Iverson is one of the greatest scorers of all time, he does not have a ring to his name, and he's not even going to consider "acting up" with personalities like KG and Sheed in the locker room with him. Could you maybe use some logic? Thanks.

Marbury did not succeed. I did not turn down Randy Moss in the least when the Patriots got him. I was shocked that we only had to trade a 4th round pick for him. It was clear to most people that the Raiders' meltdown was starting.

Please calm yourself down, your hotheadedness. 

[LB3533]

You guys really think Iverson would care about his career scoring average if he was on a championship contending team?

Yes, on the freaking Grizzlies, I can understand Iverson using them as a stage to prove he still had game left, and when he wasn't given that opportunity he felt betrayed and quit.

Yes.  He cares more about his scoring.


I remember this quote after a game when Webber joined the 76ers.

"See, I got my points, Webber got his points.  It's not a problem"

Could you have taken that quote out of context anymore than you did?

That quote is more directed on AI being able to play ball with another "star" in Chris Webber than it has to do with winning or losing.

[LB3533]

I don't really want AI on this team. He could fit and could be a great weapon off the bench, but it's a lot of ifs. If he came here I would rout for him, but I rather not have to.

We took on Mikki Moore and Starbury last year.

Not giving a guy like AI a chance is just wrong, in so many ways.

What do Mikki Moore and Iverson have to do with one another?

Marbury came to the Cs humbled, acted like a model citizen and left. Iverson signed with the Griz, didn't practice or play because he was hurt -- essentially was no part of the team. Then, in his FIRST game, he played like 20 minutes and moaned like a child about how awesome and misunderstood he is.

Why do the Celtics need this? How many minutes will he get on the Cs? 8? 10? And who are you going to cut to add him for a week before he starts complaining and we have to cut him?

I'd sign Stackhouse long before Iverson.

When you want to improve your team mid way into the season, you don't bring in Mikki Moore and Starbury and ignore Allen Iverson.

That just goes beyond logic.

There were minutes for those guys last year. There aren't minutes for Iverson.

Listen to Ainge's interview on EEI from Wednesday and you'll get it. Steph came in only after many conversations about a very small role and model citizenship required. Iverson's provben he's not capabale of that. There's no upside when they don't need his game.  

The only thing Iverson has proven is that he is not willing to come off the bench for a loser team.

[moiso]

The pistons were a playoff team.

[mrkelly]

You guys really think Iverson would care about his career scoring average if he was on a championship contending team?

Yes, on the freaking Grizzlies, I can understand Iverson using them as a stage to prove he still had game left, and when he wasn't given that opportunity he felt betrayed and quit.

Yes.  He cares more about his scoring.


I remember this quote after a game when Webber joined the 76ers.

"See, I got my points, Webber got his points.  It's not a problem"

Could you have taken that quote out of context anymore than you did?

That quote is more directed on AI being able to play ball with another "star" in Chris Webber than it has to do with winning or losing.

So to AI playing ball is getting his points then?

[LB3533]

You guys really think Iverson would care about his career scoring average if he was on a championship contending team?

Yes, on the freaking Grizzlies, I can understand Iverson using them as a stage to prove he still had game left, and when he wasn't given that opportunity he felt betrayed and quit.

Yes.  He cares more about his scoring.


I remember this quote after a game when Webber joined the 76ers.

"See, I got my points, Webber got his points.  It's not a problem"

Could you have taken that quote out of context anymore than you did?

That quote is more directed on AI being able to play ball with another "star" in Chris Webber than it has to do with winning or losing.

So to AI playing ball is getting his points then?

What?

The biggest issue when Webber was traded to the Sixers was how would AI co-exist with another star.

That quote is just an explanation AI gave to answer that question.

That quote has nothing to do with caring about scoring more than winning or whatever.

[moiso]

You guys really think Iverson would care about his career scoring average if he was on a championship contending team?

Yes, on the freaking Grizzlies, I can understand Iverson using them as a stage to prove he still had game left, and when he wasn't given that opportunity he felt betrayed and quit.

Yes.  He cares more about his scoring.


I remember this quote after a game when Webber joined the 76ers.

"See, I got my points, Webber got his points.  It's not a problem"

Could you have taken that quote out of context anymore than you did?

That quote is more directed on AI being able to play ball with another "star" in Chris Webber than it has to do with winning or losing.

So to AI playing ball is getting his points then?

What?

The biggest issue when Webber was traded to the Sixers was how would AI co-exist with another star.

That quote is just an explanation AI gave to answer that question.

That quote has nothing to do with caring about scoring more than winning or whatever.

I don't agree with you.  I think he definitely cares more about scoring than winning, and I think that quote is an example of that.  He has never sacrificed points or minutes in order to do more winning, so why should we think otherwise?

[rondohondo]

I think Danny should take a gamble on him IF he is willing to agree to the terms that Marbury did last year. Play 15-25 mins a night and don't cause any trouble. Iverson has said he would be willing to do that for a winning team, but not Memphis because they are horrible.

If A.I. is able to give us a few playoff performances like Marbury did in the 4th quarter of game 5 against the Magic , then it would be well worth it if it gets us a few playoff wins . At the vet minimum it would be a very low risk/ high reward type situation. If he causes any problems at all then just cut him.

There is no way you can tell me that A.I. is a bigger cancer than Stephon Marbury. Iverson is 10 times better than Marbury was last year after taking a year + off. Iverson put up great numbers for Memphis in the few games he came off the bench.

Not to mention he would be a great insurance policy if Rondo or Ray go down with injuries for an extended period of time.

[Mencius]

I think Danny should take a gamble on him IF he is willing to agree to the terms that Marbury did last year. Play 15-25 mins a night and don't cause any trouble. Iverson has said he would be willing to do that for a winning team, but not Memphis because they are horrible.

If A.I. is able to give us a few playoff performances like Marbury did in the 4th quarter of game 5 against the Magic , then it would be well worth it if it gets us a few playoff wins . At the vet minimum it would be a very low risk/ high reward type situation. If he causes any problems at all then just cut him.

There is no way you can tell me that A.I. is a bigger cancer than Stephon Marbury. Iverson is 10 times better than Marbury was last year after taking a year + off. Iverson put up great numbers for Memphis in the few games he came off the bench.

Not to mention he would be a great insurance policy if Rondo or Ray go down with injuries for an extended period of time.

This is how I see it too, with all the same caveats; he agrees to come off the bench, if he acts up we just cut him.  Low risk, high reward seems on target, and insurance for if Ray or Rondo go down for a bit.  Or in other words, what you said.

[LB3533]

You guys really think Iverson would care about his career scoring average if he was on a championship contending team?

Yes, on the freaking Grizzlies, I can understand Iverson using them as a stage to prove he still had game left, and when he wasn't given that opportunity he felt betrayed and quit.

Yes.  He cares more about his scoring.


I remember this quote after a game when Webber joined the 76ers.

"See, I got my points, Webber got his points.  It's not a problem"

Could you have taken that quote out of context anymore than you did?

That quote is more directed on AI being able to play ball with another "star" in Chris Webber than it has to do with winning or losing.

So to AI playing ball is getting his points then?

What?

The biggest issue when Webber was traded to the Sixers was how would AI co-exist with another star.

That quote is just an explanation AI gave to answer that question.

That quote has nothing to do with caring about scoring more than winning or whatever.

I don't agree with you.  I think he definitely cares more about scoring than winning, and I think that quote is an example of that.  He has never sacrificed points or minutes in order to do more winning, so why should we think otherwise?

That quote doesn't show any example of AI preferring to score more than winning games.

The reporter did not ask Iverson "Your team lost, care to comment?"

And Iverson replied "I scored, C-Webb scored, [losing] is not a problem."

Never happened...don't make up stuff.

[moiso]

He said he was satified because both guys got their points.  Where is the part where I made something up?

[slamtheking]

he'll end up in cleveland to take delonte's place

I've been saying the same thing in other threads/articles.  AI will end up with Bron as a "good faith" move by Cle management to show Bron they're serious about winning a title.  If he replaces West, all the better for the C's-->substitute a "me first" loser for a "team oriented" contributor (when he's playing) on one of our chief rivals.

[moiso]

One point- before we got Marbury, 75% of the people on this blog thought Marbury was the missing piece, an allstar type talent to come off the bench and get us 15 and 6 off the bench.  Hell, several people even anticipated Marbury unseating Rondo for the starting job.  
Well, hindsight is 20/20.  Marbury didn't have as much left in the tank as anyone thought.  The same is true of AI.  Most people are overestimating what he can do for us.  I'm telling you, the majority of people were saying the same thing about Marbury as I'm hearing from AI supporters.