The Bucks clearly don?t like the Heats offer. If they did, the deal would be done. Giannis is reportedly interested in signing an extension with Boston. Brad better get this trade done.
I think it is clear that the Bucks do not want the key piece from either team, and players are being shopped around to third and fourth teams to find pieces and picks the Bucks do prefer.
I also think that probably 2/3 of the league is annoyed with the Bucks because they already went through this process at the deadline, only for nothing to happen.
Right, but the Key piece the Celtics have to offer is Jaylen Brown. The Heat have Tyler Herro. No one is giving up a haul for Tyler Herro. The Celtics should be in the drivers seat.
I legitimately wonder if Milwaukee would rather keep Giannis than accept that Miami package. Unless Giannis changes his mind, I don't think he's signing an extension with Portland or Atlanta (at least he isn't promising it) so those teams wouldn't give up multiple premium assets, and if Boston doesn't get him then MIL either has to either agree to the Miami deal or keep him. Or maybe hope another team takes a gamble on him similar to Toronto in 2019 with Kawhi.
I'm sure some teams will be interested in Herro but he's also extension eligible, I believe I read he can be given an additional 3-4 years at 45M+ AAV. Sorry but that's crazy. Reaves is projected to get 5/240M from LAL and I think Reaves is better than Herro. Bucks have said they don't want to extend Herro. @Who bought up the Magic in the other thread as a potential fit and I agree, and teams like the Grizzlies are options. But again, even those teams I highly doubt would give up much for Herro besides maybe a player, salary piece and 1 FRP (or multiple seconds). Jaylen Brown and potential young players/picks from Portland/Atlanta/NOP is way more enticing in a 3-team framework
There is no way Milwaukee is keeping Giannis. I don?t think the Celtics can keep JB at this point either. If they weren?t actively shopping Brown, feel like Brad would have said so by now.
I don?t understand why people think a player can?t be part of a trade rumor (even a legit one) and decide to continue to play basketball with the team that considered trading him. He?s making 60M a year - he?s somehow unable to shake off whatever blow to his pride may have occurred? You and others may know JB well enough to know he?s incapable being a good teammate after all this talk, but I don?t know him nearly well enough to know that. He?s a mega rich 30 year old man who was considered in a trade to attain one of the five best players on the planet. His ego can?t handle that? Idk - I just think if a trade doesn?t pan out JB is probably enough of a grownup to give it his best effort in a Boston uniform next season.
That?s just how it works in the NBA with star players. Look at Harden, KD, Kyrie, Kawhi, AD, etc. these guys ask to be traded and they get moved. Giannis will be moved.
Regarding JB, no I don?t think his ego can take being part of trade rumors. Just like I don?t think his ego can take being a #2 option going forward after he just has his Favorite season being the #1. He does not seem willing to take a back seat anymore. I believe the Celtics need to trade him.
I just think it's kind of crazy to say definitively that Jaylen can't handle being a number two when he's been a number two for every year (except last year) of the last six or that he can't handle trade rumors when he's been in trade rumors almost every year since he was drafted. These aren't hypotheticals, he's already been dealing with this stuff.
Whenever someone says "Brown wants his own team" or "Brown wants to be #1" they are speculating. He may even want those things but simply value being on a contender more. Acting like he it's a forgone conclusion that he wants to leave is silly to me.
You don?t think things have changed since last year?. JB has made numerous comments this past season about him sacrificing over the years. That he was held back during the Hayward years, etc. stating that his favorite season was the most recent. The one where he got to be the number one option. JB is saying these things, not the media, not the fans. Do you think these comments are by accident?
No, I don't. I Jaylen ha a great year and made 2nd team all-nba, but he's also done that WITH Tatum on the floor.
As for the comments, saying "I've sacrificed" isn't the same as saying "I don't want to sacrifice." A person can acknowledge the fact that they've sacrificed but still prefer the situation they are in for a variety of reasons. Sometimes a guy says something not because he wants a change, but because he just wants recognition for what he is doing.
He's literally said he would spend his entire career here if it was his choice. He's made multiple all nba teams and 5x all-star teams as well as a 35% super max playing net to Tatum not to mention a finals MVP. I seriously doubt he views Tatum as some anchor.
The bottom line is this. Until Jaylen says "I want out" I'm not going out of my way to read into stuff. I think he wants to win, and if I had to guess he knows that playing next to a guy like Tatum gives him the best combo of "chance to win" while also being a very close to equal 1a in usage.