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Re: NBA Season 2023-24
« Reply #2430 on: January 23, 2024, 09:39:56 AM »

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While most of the attention and rumors have surrounded Jerami Grant and Malcolm Brogdon, NBA insider Chris Haynes revealed on his podcast that the team could look to trade Robert Williams III. There are some teams that are pondering making a move for Robert Williams. Now, I know Robert Williams is out for the season … but teams feel like he would be somebody that could get on the cheap right now and allow him to continue recovering, continue rehabbing in hopes that he can blossom back into the Robert Williams that we’ve seen when he was playing at a high level with the Boston Celtics.

I would love for him to come back at some point in the near future and have a renaissance year with us en route to a title, to be honest.
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Re: NBA Season 2023-24
« Reply #2431 on: January 23, 2024, 09:56:27 AM »

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While most of the attention and rumors have surrounded Jerami Grant and Malcolm Brogdon, NBA insider Chris Haynes revealed on his podcast that the team could look to trade Robert Williams III. There are some teams that are pondering making a move for Robert Williams. Now, I know Robert Williams is out for the season … but teams feel like he would be somebody that could get on the cheap right now and allow him to continue recovering, continue rehabbing in hopes that he can blossom back into the Robert Williams that we’ve seen when he was playing at a high level with the Boston Celtics.

I would love for him to come back at some point in the near future and have a renaissance year with us en route to a title, to be honest.

I think we’ll have to wait at least until the 2026 offseason for that to happen (and even then it would likely mean he’s been broken for the next two years, which would be sad).

Re: NBA Season 2023-24
« Reply #2432 on: January 23, 2024, 10:02:18 AM »

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While most of the attention and rumors have surrounded Jerami Grant and Malcolm Brogdon, NBA insider Chris Haynes revealed on his podcast that the team could look to trade Robert Williams III. There are some teams that are pondering making a move for Robert Williams. Now, I know Robert Williams is out for the season … but teams feel like he would be somebody that could get on the cheap right now and allow him to continue recovering, continue rehabbing in hopes that he can blossom back into the Robert Williams that we’ve seen when he was playing at a high level with the Boston Celtics.

I would love for him to come back at some point in the near future and have a renaissance year with us en route to a title, to be honest.

I think we’ll have to wait at least until the 2026 offseason for that to happen (and even then it would likely mean he’s been broken for the next two years, which would be sad).

Yeah, a return doesn't seem likely, but we can hope for a future reunion.  Out of the guys we've traded in recent years, he was by far my favorite.

It's interesting to me to see that he still seemingly has slightly positive trade value. 


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Re: NBA Season 2023-24
« Reply #2433 on: January 23, 2024, 10:27:37 AM »

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Came up with this one

GS - DLo, Prince, Christie (for salary purposes)
LA - Murray, Wiggins
ATL - LA 29 1st, Vincent, Kuminga

GS would do that only if they feel like they need to dump Wiggins and/or he isn't salvageable (saves them a ton of money long term and this year).  Lakers do that if they think they can get something out of Wiggins. Atlanta adds Kuminga and gets the coveted 29 1st.

I don’t understand why in the world the warriors would do this. They already had the russell experience once and did not like it at all.


I think the argument is Russel has 1 year 18 million after this year, Wiggins has 3 years 85 million. If Wiggins is as bad as he's looked moving forward that's a real expensive/bad contract. So maybe the warriors just want to get off that money?

Its not a deal a competeing team makes, but the Warriors may be moving into a new phase of their team.
Yes. It also shaves several million off this year, which with their tax penalty is massive savings.

To Clay's point, I do think if they did this, it would be a signal that they are also tryung to move Draymond and Klay.  They need a reboot and clearing money is needed to effectively do that.

Maybe the Sixers go all in and they do something like Klay and Dray for Harris, Batum, Covington.

Warriors would only have Curry, Paul, and DLo making more than 10 million next year and Paul and DLo would be expiring.  They'd be able to fairly easily clear max cap room to add a guy to Curry.

Sixers would be going all in this year and would have a nasty starting 5 with Maxey, Melton, Klay, Dray, and Embiid with solid veteran role players on the bench. They'd have their best team and best chance at a title with that group.

This one seems a lot more feasible to me if they do this follow up move. This would unfortunately make the 76ers quite scary even though I think Klay is washed up.

Re: NBA Season 2023-24
« Reply #2434 on: January 23, 2024, 10:52:38 AM »

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While most of the attention and rumors have surrounded Jerami Grant and Malcolm Brogdon, NBA insider Chris Haynes revealed on his podcast that the team could look to trade Robert Williams III. There are some teams that are pondering making a move for Robert Williams. Now, I know Robert Williams is out for the season … but teams feel like he would be somebody that could get on the cheap right now and allow him to continue recovering, continue rehabbing in hopes that he can blossom back into the Robert Williams that we’ve seen when he was playing at a high level with the Boston Celtics.

I would love for him to come back at some point in the near future and have a renaissance year with us en route to a title, to be honest.

I think we’ll have to wait at least until the 2026 offseason for that to happen (and even then it would likely mean he’s been broken for the next two years, which would be sad).

Yeah, a return doesn't seem likely, but we can hope for a future reunion.  Out of the guys we've traded in recent years, he was by far my favorite.

It's interesting to me to see that he still seemingly has slightly positive trade value.
Yeah, I think you have to wonder about how often things like Steph Curry's ankles and the deal he signed in 2012 weigh on front offices. You would think they'd have enough information that bigs with chronic injuries are essentially never a good bet.
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Re: NBA Season 2023-24
« Reply #2435 on: January 23, 2024, 12:04:50 PM »

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Re: NBA Season 2023-24
« Reply #2436 on: January 23, 2024, 12:15:12 PM »

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I see it’s time for the once every 2 years PED suspension.  I believe Thompson is the 12th player suspended since the introduction of the policy in the early 2000s.

Re: NBA Season 2023-24
« Reply #2437 on: January 23, 2024, 12:17:27 PM »

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I see it’s time for the once every 2 years PED suspension.  I believe Thompson is the 12th player suspended since the introduction of the policy in the early 2000s.

Weird that no stars have ever been suspended.  I guess the NBA just runs a really clean program.


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Re: NBA Season 2023-24
« Reply #2438 on: January 23, 2024, 12:52:38 PM »

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While most of the attention and rumors have surrounded Jerami Grant and Malcolm Brogdon, NBA insider Chris Haynes revealed on his podcast that the team could look to trade Robert Williams III. There are some teams that are pondering making a move for Robert Williams. Now, I know Robert Williams is out for the season … but teams feel like he would be somebody that could get on the cheap right now and allow him to continue recovering, continue rehabbing in hopes that he can blossom back into the Robert Williams that we’ve seen when he was playing at a high level with the Boston Celtics.

I would love for him to come back at some point in the near future and have a renaissance year with us en route to a title, to be honest.

I think we’ll have to wait at least until the 2026 offseason for that to happen (and even then it would likely mean he’s been broken for the next two years, which would be sad).

Yeah, a return doesn't seem likely, but we can hope for a future reunion.  Out of the guys we've traded in recent years, he was by far my favorite.

It's interesting to me to see that he still seemingly has slightly positive trade value.
Yeah, I think you have to wonder about how often things like Steph Curry's ankles and the deal he signed in 2012 weigh on front offices. You would think they'd have enough information that bigs with chronic injuries are essentially never a good bet.

Whether it’s a good bet or not depends on the upside of the player tho.  A healthy Rob Williams, even if he can only play 20 minutes for 55 regular season games a year, can be a game changer for 1000-1200 minutes in a season.  His salary is affordable, and even fits into the big MLE for teams who haven’t used theirs.  If I’m a team looking more to next season than this, I’d consider it.  If it doesn’t work out, you can always trade him the following year as an expiring.

The team who should get him, either now or in the offseason, is Utah.  His salary matches with Horton-Tucker’s, and they also have cap space that probably isn’t getting used other than in a renegotiation for Markkanen and picking up unwanted contracts.  With Walker Kessler already on the roster, Rob wouldn’t need more than a halftime role — and if he’s healthy enough for that part-time work, his talent is enough to help elevate an ascending team like the Jazz.  Meanwhile, if he gets hurt again, he’d be an expiring contract the following year to help them in a package for a star if one becomes available.  He’s not someone you trade an unprotected first for, but to the right team he has positive value.

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« Reply #2439 on: January 23, 2024, 12:53:24 PM »

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I see it’s time for the once every 2 years PED suspension.  I believe Thompson is the 12th player suspended since the introduction of the policy in the early 2000s.

Never noticed before, but seeing it called out here "testing positive for ibutamoren and SARM LGD-4033" makes realize, the NBA has different disclosure rules for PEDs vs drugs of abuse.

If the player fails due to PEDs they list it out.  But if the player fails for "drugs of abuse" they don't disclose the specifics.

Even if the NBA gave no specifics, the violation category would be obvious based on the suspension (25 games for PEDs, 1-2 years for hard drugs, used to be 5 for marijuana, etc.) but I'm kinda surprised the players union hasn't fought to suppress the specifics on PEDs, like the NFL union does.  Probably makes the league and other players look better though, "see we're not hiding anything."
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« Reply #2440 on: January 23, 2024, 01:00:36 PM »

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I see it’s time for the once every 2 years PED suspension.  I believe Thompson is the 12th player suspended since the introduction of the policy in the early 2000s.

Weird that no stars have ever been suspended.  I guess the NBA just runs a really clean program.

The one reason I think it might be actually cleaner than baseball or football, as opposed to just poorly tested, is that many NBA players participate in international competitions (Olympics, FIBA, Eurobasket, etc) that have their own testing, and they rarely if ever test positive there either.  The Olympics and FIBA both partner with WADA, which has had no problem catching star athletes in other sports.

That said, I wouldn’t be at all surprised if the NBA buried positive tests from its cash cows.

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« Reply #2441 on: January 23, 2024, 02:00:48 PM »

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NBA should test LeBron for HGH or PED...I'm sure he's on it. Why else is he still dominating 30+ a night at his age. And he never gets any major season-ending injuries for his type. It's ridiculous.


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« Reply #2442 on: January 23, 2024, 02:07:42 PM »

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NBA should test LeBron for HGH or PED...I'm sure he's on it. Why else is he still dominating 30+ a night at his age. And he never gets any major season-ending injuries for his type. It's ridiculous.

cause then they have to act on it

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« Reply #2443 on: January 23, 2024, 02:54:38 PM »

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NBA should test LeBron for HGH or PED...I'm sure he's on it. Why else is he still dominating 30+ a night at his age. And he never gets any major season-ending injuries for his type. It's ridiculous.

cause then they have to act on it
and then they'd basically have to test everyone and only like 10 guys would be left
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« Reply #2444 on: January 23, 2024, 03:11:18 PM »

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Paul Pierce took a jab at Udonis Haslem retirement ceremony ahahahaha

"This one given bro just sayin (shrug emoji)" the absolute TRUTH!

Super funny but the sad thing is most modern day fans view pierce as some haslem like player and he’s getting hate on socials instead of people agreeing with his obvious assessment.
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