Celtics Trade Deadline

[The Oracle]

No chance Utah would have interest in this trade.  They may consider a Grant for Vanderbilt trade but beyond that the C's are giving up nothing that would cause them to even pick up the phone.  Pritchard at this point wouldn't be in their rotation either.  Utah traded Bogdanovic pretty much straight up for Olynyk in the summer, I doubt they are going to give him away now.  Gay is playable Gallo is not.

[Goldstar88]

No chance Utah would have interest in this trade.  They may consider a Grant for Vanderbilt trade but beyond that the C's are giving up nothing that would cause them to even pick up the phone.  Pritchard at this point wouldn't be in their rotation either.  Utah traded Bogdanovic pretty much straight up for Olynyk in the summer, I doubt they are going to give him away now.  Gay is playable Gallo is not.

I think the C’s would likely have to attach a first round pick as well. I’m not high on Vanderbilt, he can’t shoot, but I’d much rather have Kelly than Grant.

[angryguy77]

“By the way I’m hearing that he’s [Kevin Durant] on the verge of potentially being moved. Obviously we’ve all been speculating about that…that he may be moved. I’m hearing Boston is making some calls. Keep your eye on Jaylen Brown. Keep your eye on that.” - @stephenasmith on FT

Not sure I buy this but it is out there.

I'd be open to moving Brown for the right price, but not for KD.

[Roy H.]

“By the way I’m hearing that he’s [Kevin Durant] on the verge of potentially being moved. Obviously we’ve all been speculating about that…that he may be moved. I’m hearing Boston is making some calls. Keep your eye on Jaylen Brown. Keep your eye on that.” - @stephenasmith on FT

Not sure I buy this but it is out there.

I'd be open to moving Brown for the right price, but not for KD.

What’s the right price?  The guys I’d put ahead of JB are probably unobtainable, and I don’t see much benefit in trading him for multiple lesser parts.

That analysis changes if Brown doesn’t want to be here, but if that we’re the case, KD is one of the few guys I’d be interested in.

[The Oracle]

No chance Utah would have interest in this trade.  They may consider a Grant for Vanderbilt trade but beyond that the C's are giving up nothing that would cause them to even pick up the phone.  Pritchard at this point wouldn't be in their rotation either.  Utah traded Bogdanovic pretty much straight up for Olynyk in the summer, I doubt they are going to give him away now.  Gay is playable Gallo is not.

I think the C’s would likely have to attach a first round pick as well. I’m not high on Vanderbilt, he can’t shoot, but I’d much rather have Kelly than Grant.

I have watched all of Utah's games this year and in my opinion the C's should not be interested in Vanderbilt at all.  He doesn't fit with Timelord at all and next to Horford wouldn't be great either.  Much prefer Grant in both cases.  Playing him as a small ball center isn't good either. 

[liam]

No chance Utah would have interest in this trade.  They may consider a Grant for Vanderbilt trade but beyond that the C's are giving up nothing that would cause them to even pick up the phone.  Pritchard at this point wouldn't be in their rotation either.  Utah traded Bogdanovic pretty much straight up for Olynyk in the summer, I doubt they are going to give him away now.  Gay is playable Gallo is not.

I think the C’s would likely have to attach a first round pick as well. I’m not high on Vanderbilt, he can’t shoot, but I’d much rather have Kelly than Grant.

I have watched all of Utah's games this year and in my opinion the C's should not be interested in Vanderbilt at all.  He doesn't fit with Timelord at all and next to Horford wouldn't be great either.  Much prefer Grant in both cases.  Playing him as a small ball center isn't good either.

Vanderbilt is a long energy guy off the bench. He's a very different player than Grant who's much stronger and an elite shooter from 3.

[Goldstar88]

No chance Utah would have interest in this trade.  They may consider a Grant for Vanderbilt trade but beyond that the C's are giving up nothing that would cause them to even pick up the phone.  Pritchard at this point wouldn't be in their rotation either.  Utah traded Bogdanovic pretty much straight up for Olynyk in the summer, I doubt they are going to give him away now.  Gay is playable Gallo is not.

I think the C’s would likely have to attach a first round pick as well. I’m not high on Vanderbilt, he can’t shoot, but I’d much rather have Kelly than Grant.

I have watched all of Utah's games this year and in my opinion the C's should not be interested in Vanderbilt at all.  He doesn't fit with Timelord at all and next to Horford wouldn't be great either.  Much prefer Grant in both cases.  Playing him as a small ball center isn't good either.

I agree, but I’d rather have Kelly over Grant. He’s a legit 4/5. Utah is full rebuild and Olynyk being over 30 doesn’t fit in with their timeline. Grant and Pritchard do, though. Then throw in the C’s first round pick for this next year…That makes a lot of sense for both teams.

[slamtheking]

No chance Utah would have interest in this trade.  They may consider a Grant for Vanderbilt trade but beyond that the C's are giving up nothing that would cause them to even pick up the phone.  Pritchard at this point wouldn't be in their rotation either.  Utah traded Bogdanovic pretty much straight up for Olynyk in the summer, I doubt they are going to give him away now.  Gay is playable Gallo is not.

I think the C’s would likely have to attach a first round pick as well. I’m not high on Vanderbilt, he can’t shoot, but I’d much rather have Kelly than Grant.

I have watched all of Utah's games this year and in my opinion the C's should not be interested in Vanderbilt at all.  He doesn't fit with Timelord at all and next to Horford wouldn't be great either.  Much prefer Grant in both cases.  Playing him as a small ball center isn't good either.

I agree, but I’d rather have Kelly over Grant. He’s a legit 4/5. Utah is full rebuild and Olynyk being over 30 doesn’t fit their timeline. Grant and Pritchard do, though. Then throw in the C’s first round pick for this year…. That makes a lot of sense for both teams.

we don't have our first pick this year -- went to Indy in the Brogdon deal.  I wouldn't be throwing a first rounder in for either KO or Vanderbilt.  each is a bench guy that isn't going to be someone you want on the court in the final minutes of a game.

[Goldstar88]

No chance Utah would have interest in this trade.  They may consider a Grant for Vanderbilt trade but beyond that the C's are giving up nothing that would cause them to even pick up the phone.  Pritchard at this point wouldn't be in their rotation either.  Utah traded Bogdanovic pretty much straight up for Olynyk in the summer, I doubt they are going to give him away now.  Gay is playable Gallo is not.

I think the C’s would likely have to attach a first round pick as well. I’m not high on Vanderbilt, he can’t shoot, but I’d much rather have Kelly than Grant.

I have watched all of Utah's games this year and in my opinion the C's should not be interested in Vanderbilt at all.  He doesn't fit with Timelord at all and next to Horford wouldn't be great either.  Much prefer Grant in both cases.  Playing him as a small ball center isn't good either.

I agree, but I’d rather have Kelly over Grant. He’s a legit 4/5. Utah is full rebuild and Olynyk being over 30 doesn’t fit their timeline. Grant and Pritchard do, though. Then throw in the C’s first round pick for this year…. That makes a lot of sense for both teams.

we don't have our first pick this year -- went to Indy in the Brogdon deal.  I wouldn't be throwing a first rounder in for either KO or Vanderbilt.  each is a bench guy that isn't going to be someone you want on the court in the final minutes of a game.

Well, you are dealing with Danny Ainge, so good luck not giving up something that you didn't want to. Lol.

[Celtics2021]

No chance Utah would have interest in this trade.  They may consider a Grant for Vanderbilt trade but beyond that the C's are giving up nothing that would cause them to even pick up the phone.  Pritchard at this point wouldn't be in their rotation either.  Utah traded Bogdanovic pretty much straight up for Olynyk in the summer, I doubt they are going to give him away now.  Gay is playable Gallo is not.

I think the C’s would likely have to attach a first round pick as well. I’m not high on Vanderbilt, he can’t shoot, but I’d much rather have Kelly than Grant.

I have watched all of Utah's games this year and in my opinion the C's should not be interested in Vanderbilt at all.  He doesn't fit with Timelord at all and next to Horford wouldn't be great either.  Much prefer Grant in both cases.  Playing him as a small ball center isn't good either.

I agree, but I’d rather have Kelly over Grant. He’s a legit 4/5. Utah is full rebuild and Olynyk being over 30 doesn’t fit their timeline. Grant and Pritchard do, though. Then throw in the C’s first round pick for this year…. That makes a lot of sense for both teams.

we don't have our first pick this year -- went to Indy in the Brogdon deal.  I wouldn't be throwing a first rounder in for either KO or Vanderbilt.  each is a bench guy that isn't going to be someone you want on the court in the final minutes of a game.

Well, you are dealing with Danny Ainge, so good luck not giving up something that you didn't want to. Lol.

And this is why a trade won’t get made.  Neither of those two are worth a first to the Celtics, and Olynyk especially isn’t because we’d have to also give up at least someone on the fringe of the rotation to make salaries work.

[The Oracle]

Short of trading White or Smart in a multi player deal I don't think there is anything there in trade between Utah and the C's (don't want to do that).  Olynyk's fit with this team would be really good though.  A bench of Brogdon, White, G. Williams and Olynyk would be outstanding with Tatum being pulled early and brought back with them.

[Goldstar88]

No chance Utah would have interest in this trade.  They may consider a Grant for Vanderbilt trade but beyond that the C's are giving up nothing that would cause them to even pick up the phone.  Pritchard at this point wouldn't be in their rotation either.  Utah traded Bogdanovic pretty much straight up for Olynyk in the summer, I doubt they are going to give him away now.  Gay is playable Gallo is not.

I think the C’s would likely have to attach a first round pick as well. I’m not high on Vanderbilt, he can’t shoot, but I’d much rather have Kelly than Grant.

I have watched all of Utah's games this year and in my opinion the C's should not be interested in Vanderbilt at all.  He doesn't fit with Timelord at all and next to Horford wouldn't be great either.  Much prefer Grant in both cases.  Playing him as a small ball center isn't good either.

I agree, but I’d rather have Kelly over Grant. He’s a legit 4/5. Utah is full rebuild and Olynyk being over 30 doesn’t fit their timeline. Grant and Pritchard do, though. Then throw in the C’s first round pick for this year…. That makes a lot of sense for both teams.

we don't have our first pick this year -- went to Indy in the Brogdon deal.  I wouldn't be throwing a first rounder in for either KO or Vanderbilt.  each is a bench guy that isn't going to be someone you want on the court in the final minutes of a game.

Well, you are dealing with Danny Ainge, so good luck not giving up something that you didn't want to. Lol.

And this is why a trade won’t get made.  Neither of those two are worth a first to the Celtics, and Olynyk especially isn’t because we’d have to also give up at least someone on the fringe of the rotation to make salaries work.

Other than Rob, I can’t think of any players the C’s have had success drafting in the late 20’s. I mean, the last two picks in the teens were not very good with Langford and Nesmith. What’s that old saying, “A bird in the hand…” Would much rather have the proven players for this Celtics team.

[tonydelk]

No chance Utah would have interest in this trade.  They may consider a Grant for Vanderbilt trade but beyond that the C's are giving up nothing that would cause them to even pick up the phone.  Pritchard at this point wouldn't be in their rotation either.  Utah traded Bogdanovic pretty much straight up for Olynyk in the summer, I doubt they are going to give him away now.  Gay is playable Gallo is not.

I think the C’s would likely have to attach a first round pick as well. I’m not high on Vanderbilt, he can’t shoot, but I’d much rather have Kelly than Grant.

I have watched all of Utah's games this year and in my opinion the C's should not be interested in Vanderbilt at all.  He doesn't fit with Timelord at all and next to Horford wouldn't be great either.  Much prefer Grant in both cases.  Playing him as a small ball center isn't good either.

I agree, but I’d rather have Kelly over Grant. He’s a legit 4/5. Utah is full rebuild and Olynyk being over 30 doesn’t fit their timeline. Grant and Pritchard do, though. Then throw in the C’s first round pick for this year…. That makes a lot of sense for both teams.

we don't have our first pick this year -- went to Indy in the Brogdon deal.  I wouldn't be throwing a first rounder in for either KO or Vanderbilt.  each is a bench guy that isn't going to be someone you want on the court in the final minutes of a game.

Well, you are dealing with Danny Ainge, so good luck not giving up something that you didn't want to. Lol.

And this is why a trade won’t get made.  Neither of those two are worth a first to the Celtics, and Olynyk especially isn’t because we’d have to also give up at least someone on the fringe of the rotation to make salaries work.

Other than Rob, I can’t think of any players the C’s have had success drafting in the late 20’s. I mean, the last two picks in the teens were not very good with Langford and Nesmith. What’s that old saying, “A bird in the hand…” Would much rather have the proven players for this Celtics team.

Nesmith has really come on this year with this opportunity with Indy.  His production and stats would have been great this year on this team. 

Langford has been doing decent with SAS but can't stay healthy per usual.  Nesmith may actually be a good rotation player.  Langford my not be in the league in 2 years.

[Celtics2021]

No chance Utah would have interest in this trade.  They may consider a Grant for Vanderbilt trade but beyond that the C's are giving up nothing that would cause them to even pick up the phone.  Pritchard at this point wouldn't be in their rotation either.  Utah traded Bogdanovic pretty much straight up for Olynyk in the summer, I doubt they are going to give him away now.  Gay is playable Gallo is not.

I think the C’s would likely have to attach a first round pick as well. I’m not high on Vanderbilt, he can’t shoot, but I’d much rather have Kelly than Grant.

I have watched all of Utah's games this year and in my opinion the C's should not be interested in Vanderbilt at all.  He doesn't fit with Timelord at all and next to Horford wouldn't be great either.  Much prefer Grant in both cases.  Playing him as a small ball center isn't good either.

I agree, but I’d rather have Kelly over Grant. He’s a legit 4/5. Utah is full rebuild and Olynyk being over 30 doesn’t fit their timeline. Grant and Pritchard do, though. Then throw in the C’s first round pick for this year…. That makes a lot of sense for both teams.

we don't have our first pick this year -- went to Indy in the Brogdon deal.  I wouldn't be throwing a first rounder in for either KO or Vanderbilt.  each is a bench guy that isn't going to be someone you want on the court in the final minutes of a game.

Well, you are dealing with Danny Ainge, so good luck not giving up something that you didn't want to. Lol.

And this is why a trade won’t get made.  Neither of those two are worth a first to the Celtics, and Olynyk especially isn’t because we’d have to also give up at least someone on the fringe of the rotation to make salaries work.

Other than Rob, I can’t think of any players the C’s have had success drafting in the late 20’s. I mean, the last two picks in the teens were not very good with Langford and Nesmith. What’s that old saying, “A bird in the hand…” Would much rather have the proven players.

It’s not about how the Celtics have drafted (especially considering Stevens wasn’t the one making those picks), it’s a) what 1st-round picks are worth across the league and b) the limit of how many firsts you can trade.  The Celtics have 3 first rounders they can trade through the next trade deadline.  Trade one now and you’re down to two.  So if you make that trade, it really needs be for someone who’s more than the 8th or 9th man in your rotation, with the possible exception of a player on his rookie scale contract you hope to control for 5-6 seasons.  Secondly, the last two firsts the Celtics have traded have been for Malcolm Brogdon and Derrick White, who are a) better, b) on longer contracts, and c) younger (than Olynyk).

[Roy H.]

No chance Utah would have interest in this trade.  They may consider a Grant for Vanderbilt trade but beyond that the C's are giving up nothing that would cause them to even pick up the phone.  Pritchard at this point wouldn't be in their rotation either.  Utah traded Bogdanovic pretty much straight up for Olynyk in the summer, I doubt they are going to give him away now.  Gay is playable Gallo is not.

I think the C’s would likely have to attach a first round pick as well. I’m not high on Vanderbilt, he can’t shoot, but I’d much rather have Kelly than Grant.

I have watched all of Utah's games this year and in my opinion the C's should not be interested in Vanderbilt at all.  He doesn't fit with Timelord at all and next to Horford wouldn't be great either.  Much prefer Grant in both cases.  Playing him as a small ball center isn't good either.

I agree, but I’d rather have Kelly over Grant. He’s a legit 4/5. Utah is full rebuild and Olynyk being over 30 doesn’t fit their timeline. Grant and Pritchard do, though. Then throw in the C’s first round pick for this year…. That makes a lot of sense for both teams.

we don't have our first pick this year -- went to Indy in the Brogdon deal.  I wouldn't be throwing a first rounder in for either KO or Vanderbilt.  each is a bench guy that isn't going to be someone you want on the court in the final minutes of a game.

Well, you are dealing with Danny Ainge, so good luck not giving up something that you didn't want to. Lol.

And this is why a trade won’t get made.  Neither of those two are worth a first to the Celtics, and Olynyk especially isn’t because we’d have to also give up at least someone on the fringe of the rotation to make salaries work.

Other than Rob, I can’t think of any players the C’s have had success drafting in the late 20’s. I mean, the last two picks in the teens were not very good with Langford and Nesmith. What’s that old saying, “A bird in the hand…” Would much rather have the proven players for this Celtics team.

There's always the "lottery ticket" aspect of a draft pick.  You can end up with a good player at a very cheap salary for four years.  That's usually more enticing than the "bird in the hand".

And, we've done okay in the 20s, at least under Danny.  Perk, Delonte, Tony, Grant, Sully.  There have been plenty of misses, too, but if you figure a draft pick in the 20s yields about a 40% - 50% chance of a decent rotation player, it makes sense why teams hoard them.