Celtics Trade Deadline

[BitterJim]

Isn’t he signed til next season though? When he says “after i’m done here….this year” is he implying that he’d ask for a trade in the offseason? Because if so then maybe it’s best to ship him out before the deadline and get some help in terms of bigs/wings?

He is signed until next season, although his salary increases to over $4 million, which while not expensive, starts to get a) to the point that you don’t want to pay it to someone out of the rotation when you’re that much over the tax, and b) can be used to match salaries of rotation players in a way that his $2+ million salary cannot.

In other words, the Celtics have told him that they’ll try to find him somewhere better next season, if not before, because that will work best for everyone.  This season, however, it is not an imperative, because in a way his salary may be more useful in the summer.

I wonder what Pritchard's value is around the league.  For example, if we were to just trade him for draft capital, what could be get?  A protected first rounder?  Just a couple of seconds?  We can't combine his salary with a TPE but if we could get pick(s) for him, we could use the pick(s) with a TPE to get someone.

It is really too bad.  He is a great player to have on the bench.  But we are so deep at his position, that it is hard to justify.  If we could trade him for picks and then use the picks with a TPE to get a comparable big or wing, that would be much better roster balance for us.

I don't think that we'd get a first.  I don't think he's considered that good, particularly with his decline in performance this year.  I could see a team like the Warriors liking him, but they wouldn't give up a 1st.

Yeah, even for a lower pick swapping a 4 year deal + RFA for 1 year + RFA is a hard sell. Especially since his main value would probably be as a banch player on a playoff team (as opposed to being a bigger part of a rebuilding team), so the pick having a lower salary would be even more attractive

[Phantom255x]

Naz Reid and Vanderbilt are my ideal targets. Getting 1 of them would be awesome.

Then either in the buyout market or a cheap trade (only 2nds), getting a backup shooter would be nice too.

[Neurotic Guy]

Isn’t he signed til next season though? When he says “after i’m done here….this year” is he implying that he’d ask for a trade in the offseason? Because if so then maybe it’s best to ship him out before the deadline and get some help in terms of bigs/wings?

He is signed until next season, although his salary increases to over $4 million, which while not expensive, starts to get a) to the point that you don’t want to pay it to someone out of the rotation when you’re that much over the tax, and b) can be used to match salaries of rotation players in a way that his $2+ million salary cannot.

In other words, the Celtics have told him that they’ll try to find him somewhere better next season, if not before, because that will work best for everyone.  This season, however, it is not an imperative, because in a way his salary may be more useful in the summer.

I wonder what Pritchard's value is around the league.  For example, if we were to just trade him for draft capital, what could be get?  A protected first rounder?  Just a couple of seconds?  We can't combine his salary with a TPE but if we could get pick(s) for him, we could use the pick(s) with a TPE to get someone.

It is really too bad.  He is a great player to have on the bench.  But we are so deep at his position, that it is hard to justify.  If we could trade him for picks and then use the picks with a TPE to get a comparable big or wing, that would be much better roster balance for us.

I don't think that we'd get a first.  I don't think he's considered that good, particularly with his decline in performance this year.  I could see a team like the Warriors liking him, but they wouldn't give up a 1st.

I get the unlikelihood of getting a first, but practically speaking Pritchard is much more of an NBA “sure thing” than a low 1st round pick.  It’s just accepting that a decent bench guard/shooter is probably going to be better  than the likely result of a 20th to 30th pick in the draft.

 Of course it’s the possibility of striking gold with that late pick that makes trading for a decent backup psychologically not very gratifying.

[Vermont Green]

I get the unlikelihood of getting a first, but practically speaking Pritchard is much more of an NBA “sure thing” than a low 1st round pick.  It’s just accepting that a decent bench guard/shooter is probably going to be better  than the likely result of a 20th to 30th pick in the draft.

Of course it’s the possibility of striking gold with that late pick that makes trading for a decent backup psychologically not very gratifying.

This is how I look at it also.  If the pick is expected to be in the 20-30 range, you are probably not going to get a player better than Pritchard.  And that player is not going to help you at all this season or this playoff run.  And the pick doesn't have to be a 2023 pick, it could be later.  But teams are probably not going to think this way.  So if that means Pritchard returns a second round pick, why bother?  I know it is tough for Pritchard and he wants a bigger role, but there is no reason to trade him just to trade him.  Maybe in the off season, when you have more options to acquire a replacement or maybe Davison is more ready next season, but no reason to trade him now unless it helps this season's team.

[Celtics2021]

Isn’t he signed til next season though? When he says “after i’m done here….this year” is he implying that he’d ask for a trade in the offseason? Because if so then maybe it’s best to ship him out before the deadline and get some help in terms of bigs/wings?

He is signed until next season, although his salary increases to over $4 million, which while not expensive, starts to get a) to the point that you don’t want to pay it to someone out of the rotation when you’re that much over the tax, and b) can be used to match salaries of rotation players in a way that his $2+ million salary cannot.

In other words, the Celtics have told him that they’ll try to find him somewhere better next season, if not before, because that will work best for everyone.  This season, however, it is not an imperative, because in a way his salary may be more useful in the summer.

I wonder what Pritchard's value is around the league.  For example, if we were to just trade him for draft capital, what could be get?  A protected first rounder?  Just a couple of seconds?  We can't combine his salary with a TPE but if we could get pick(s) for him, we could use the pick(s) with a TPE to get someone.

It is really too bad.  He is a great player to have on the bench.  But we are so deep at his position, that it is hard to justify.  If we could trade him for picks and then use the picks with a TPE to get a comparable big or wing, that would be much better roster balance for us.

I don't think that we'd get a first.  I don't think he's considered that good, particularly with his decline in performance this year.  I could see a team like the Warriors liking him, but they wouldn't give up a 1st.

I agree that we wouldn’t get a first, but I do think he has positive value in a trade, and when added to another 2nd rounder would push the compensation over the 1st round pick value line.  He’s cost-controlled, and it’s likely an extension for him won’t be extravagant.  Add that to an early 2nd rounder to provide the upside, and it can form the foundation of a reasonable package for a non-starter.

[Roy H.]

Isn’t he signed til next season though? When he says “after i’m done here….this year” is he implying that he’d ask for a trade in the offseason? Because if so then maybe it’s best to ship him out before the deadline and get some help in terms of bigs/wings?

He is signed until next season, although his salary increases to over $4 million, which while not expensive, starts to get a) to the point that you don’t want to pay it to someone out of the rotation when you’re that much over the tax, and b) can be used to match salaries of rotation players in a way that his $2+ million salary cannot.

In other words, the Celtics have told him that they’ll try to find him somewhere better next season, if not before, because that will work best for everyone.  This season, however, it is not an imperative, because in a way his salary may be more useful in the summer.

I wonder what Pritchard's value is around the league.  For example, if we were to just trade him for draft capital, what could be get?  A protected first rounder?  Just a couple of seconds?  We can't combine his salary with a TPE but if we could get pick(s) for him, we could use the pick(s) with a TPE to get someone.

It is really too bad.  He is a great player to have on the bench.  But we are so deep at his position, that it is hard to justify.  If we could trade him for picks and then use the picks with a TPE to get a comparable big or wing, that would be much better roster balance for us.

I don't think that we'd get a first.  I don't think he's considered that good, particularly with his decline in performance this year.  I could see a team like the Warriors liking him, but they wouldn't give up a 1st.

I get the unlikelihood of getting a first, but practically speaking Pritchard is much more of an NBA “sure thing” than a low 1st round pick.  It’s just accepting that a decent bench guard/shooter is probably going to be better  than the likely result of a 20th to 30th pick in the draft.

 Of course it’s the possibility of striking gold with that late pick that makes trading for a decent backup psychologically not very gratifying.

Yep, it's that last line plus BitterJim's point about cost-controlled contract structure that make the 1st more valuable.  While most late round picks turn in R.J. Hunters, there are enough of them that have turned into Jordan Poole or Pascal Siakim to make giving them away for a low-upside backup a poor idea in most cases.

It's not a perfect analogy, but it's like asking somebody "would you rather have $100, or a 5% shot at $1 million?"  My guess is that psychologically, most people would take the chance on the life-changing money; only the truly desperate folks would take the $100.

[tonydelk]

Isn’t he signed til next season though? When he says “after i’m done here….this year” is he implying that he’d ask for a trade in the offseason? Because if so then maybe it’s best to ship him out before the deadline and get some help in terms of bigs/wings?

He is signed until next season, although his salary increases to over $4 million, which while not expensive, starts to get a) to the point that you don’t want to pay it to someone out of the rotation when you’re that much over the tax, and b) can be used to match salaries of rotation players in a way that his $2+ million salary cannot.

In other words, the Celtics have told him that they’ll try to find him somewhere better next season, if not before, because that will work best for everyone.  This season, however, it is not an imperative, because in a way his salary may be more useful in the summer.

I wonder what Pritchard's value is around the league.  For example, if we were to just trade him for draft capital, what could be get?  A protected first rounder?  Just a couple of seconds?  We can't combine his salary with a TPE but if we could get pick(s) for him, we could use the pick(s) with a TPE to get someone.

It is really too bad.  He is a great player to have on the bench.  But we are so deep at his position, that it is hard to justify.  If we could trade him for picks and then use the picks with a TPE to get a comparable big or wing, that would be much better roster balance for us.

I don't think that we'd get a first.  I don't think he's considered that good, particularly with his decline in performance this year.  I could see a team like the Warriors liking him, but they wouldn't give up a 1st.

I get the unlikelihood of getting a first, but practically speaking Pritchard is much more of an NBA “sure thing” than a low 1st round pick.  It’s just accepting that a decent bench guard/shooter is probably going to be better  than the likely result of a 20th to 30th pick in the draft.

 Of course it’s the possibility of striking gold with that late pick that makes trading for a decent backup psychologically not very gratifying.

I'd love to make a deal with the thunder for Jaylin Williams.  He's the 2nd round Jaylin Williams not their 1st round pick.  He's starting to get some run and is that SF/PF type that can go 15mpg and develop.  He'd be a great fit next to Rob as well since he can hit three's and space the floor.

Why would they do the deal?  They could use a backup PG to Giddey and PP can actually play next to Giddey since Giddey can guard SG's.  They need a shooter and PP would give them that.  I know Brad and Ownership said they are looking to this year but if they are not going to trade someone like Dwhite to make a huge splash I'd rather them get a cheap rookie that can be developed.

Another deal for PP I like is to the Wizards for Deni Avdija.  He could spell JT and the Wizards need another shooter.  PP could back up Monte Morris and can play with Beal. 

[Roy H.]

Isn’t he signed til next season though? When he says “after i’m done here….this year” is he implying that he’d ask for a trade in the offseason? Because if so then maybe it’s best to ship him out before the deadline and get some help in terms of bigs/wings?

He is signed until next season, although his salary increases to over $4 million, which while not expensive, starts to get a) to the point that you don’t want to pay it to someone out of the rotation when you’re that much over the tax, and b) can be used to match salaries of rotation players in a way that his $2+ million salary cannot.

In other words, the Celtics have told him that they’ll try to find him somewhere better next season, if not before, because that will work best for everyone.  This season, however, it is not an imperative, because in a way his salary may be more useful in the summer.

I wonder what Pritchard's value is around the league.  For example, if we were to just trade him for draft capital, what could be get?  A protected first rounder?  Just a couple of seconds?  We can't combine his salary with a TPE but if we could get pick(s) for him, we could use the pick(s) with a TPE to get someone.

It is really too bad.  He is a great player to have on the bench.  But we are so deep at his position, that it is hard to justify.  If we could trade him for picks and then use the picks with a TPE to get a comparable big or wing, that would be much better roster balance for us.

I don't think that we'd get a first.  I don't think he's considered that good, particularly with his decline in performance this year.  I could see a team like the Warriors liking him, but they wouldn't give up a 1st.

I agree that we wouldn’t get a first, but I do think he has positive value in a trade, and when added to another 2nd rounder would push the compensation over the 1st round pick value line.  He’s cost-controlled, and it’s likely an extension for him won’t be extravagant.  Add that to an early 2nd rounder to provide the upside, and it can form the foundation of a reasonable package for a non-starter.

I think that's the type of trade that could be potentially made on draft night.  Like, #39 + Pritchard for #29.  But, months ahead of the draft, I don't think any team would give up a 1st for Pritchard + HOU/POR pick.

That said, Utah has reportedly been interested in "the equivalent of a 1st rounder" for Vanderbilt.  That's vague enough that it invites speculation on whether Pritchard (a Danny pick) and a high #2 would be enough.

[Roy H.]

With Al Horford and Robert Williams signed beyond this season and capable of handling the vast majority of the team’s frontcourt minutes if they are healthy entering the playoffs, the Celtics don’t necessarily have an urgent need in the frontcourt. Still, they are expected to scan the league for another big man as the trade deadline approaches, according to league sources who were granted anonymity so they could speak freely. Though Luke Kornet has been solid this season, the Celtics are expected to evaluate options to shore up the depth behind Horford and Williams while giving Joe Mazzulla additional lineup flexibility. – via Jay King @ The Athletic

The Athletic’s Shams Charania reported again Monday that the Celtics have shown interest in Spurs center Jakob Poeltl. Jared Weiss recently broke down that possibility. Here are several other power forwards and centers who could be available at the deadline for one reason or another. Keep in mind: By combining the contracts of Danilo Gallinari and Justin Jackson with future picks, the Celtics could absorb almost $10.5 million in returning salary. They could add Blake Griffin to that same package of players to take back almost $12.8 million. Any target making more than that would require the Celtics to part ways with at least one player a little tougher to move on from. – via Jay King @ The Athletic

Would an Olynyk reunion interest the Celtics? Unlike some of the other players on this list, he’s not on an expiring contract, but only $3 million of his deal is guaranteed for the 2023-24 season. Based on my calculations, a package of Gallinari, Griffin and Jackson would fall just shy of reaching the NBA trade limit for matching Olynyk’s salary, so the Celtics would need to add further money to the offer. That could be a deal breaker for Boston, which would then need to include Payton Pritchard, Sam Hauser or Kornet in the swap. – via Jay King @ The Athletic

Pritchard + junk for KO?  In a second.

[Celtics2021]

Isn’t he signed til next season though? When he says “after i’m done here….this year” is he implying that he’d ask for a trade in the offseason? Because if so then maybe it’s best to ship him out before the deadline and get some help in terms of bigs/wings?

He is signed until next season, although his salary increases to over $4 million, which while not expensive, starts to get a) to the point that you don’t want to pay it to someone out of the rotation when you’re that much over the tax, and b) can be used to match salaries of rotation players in a way that his $2+ million salary cannot.

In other words, the Celtics have told him that they’ll try to find him somewhere better next season, if not before, because that will work best for everyone.  This season, however, it is not an imperative, because in a way his salary may be more useful in the summer.

I wonder what Pritchard's value is around the league.  For example, if we were to just trade him for draft capital, what could be get?  A protected first rounder?  Just a couple of seconds?  We can't combine his salary with a TPE but if we could get pick(s) for him, we could use the pick(s) with a TPE to get someone.

It is really too bad.  He is a great player to have on the bench.  But we are so deep at his position, that it is hard to justify.  If we could trade him for picks and then use the picks with a TPE to get a comparable big or wing, that would be much better roster balance for us.

I don't think that we'd get a first.  I don't think he's considered that good, particularly with his decline in performance this year.  I could see a team like the Warriors liking him, but they wouldn't give up a 1st.

I agree that we wouldn’t get a first, but I do think he has positive value in a trade, and when added to another 2nd rounder would push the compensation over the 1st round pick value line.  He’s cost-controlled, and it’s likely an extension for him won’t be extravagant.  Add that to an early 2nd rounder to provide the upside, and it can form the foundation of a reasonable package for a non-starter.

I think that's the type of trade that could be potentially made on draft night.  Like, #39 + Pritchard for #29.  But, months ahead of the draft, I don't think any team would give up a 1st for Pritchard + HOU/POR pick.

That said, Utah has reportedly been interested in "the equivalent of a 1st rounder" for Vanderbilt.  That's vague enough that it invites speculation on whether Pritchard (a Danny pick) and a high #2 would be enough.

The latter type of trade is what I meant.  Teams that says they want a first might except Pritchard and a second -- there are only so many firsts on the market.

[Vermont Green]

With Al Horford and Robert Williams signed beyond this season and capable of handling the vast majority of the team’s frontcourt minutes if they are healthy entering the playoffs, the Celtics don’t necessarily have an urgent need in the frontcourt. Still, they are expected to scan the league for another big man as the trade deadline approaches, according to league sources who were granted anonymity so they could speak freely. Though Luke Kornet has been solid this season, the Celtics are expected to evaluate options to shore up the depth behind Horford and Williams while giving Joe Mazzulla additional lineup flexibility. – via Jay King @ The Athletic

The Athletic’s Shams Charania reported again Monday that the Celtics have shown interest in Spurs center Jakob Poeltl. Jared Weiss recently broke down that possibility. Here are several other power forwards and centers who could be available at the deadline for one reason or another. Keep in mind: By combining the contracts of Danilo Gallinari and Justin Jackson with future picks, the Celtics could absorb almost $10.5 million in returning salary. They could add Blake Griffin to that same package of players to take back almost $12.8 million. Any target making more than that would require the Celtics to part ways with at least one player a little tougher to move on from. – via Jay King @ The Athletic

Would an Olynyk reunion interest the Celtics? Unlike some of the other players on this list, he’s not on an expiring contract, but only $3 million of his deal is guaranteed for the 2023-24 season. Based on my calculations, a package of Gallinari, Griffin and Jackson would fall just shy of reaching the NBA trade limit for matching Olynyk’s salary, so the Celtics would need to add further money to the offer. That could be a deal breaker for Boston, which would then need to include Payton Pritchard, Sam Hauser or Kornet in the swap. – via Jay King @ The Athletic

Pritchard + junk for KO?  In a second.

Still a lot of chatter around all of this.  I think the problem is that there is too much "junk" needed to make an Olynyk trade work.  And the "junk" has to include Gallinari, who to me, could be of decent value to the team next season.  If we do a 1 for 3 trade with Utah, they have to cut players to have free roster spots.  And it still creates vacancies for us on our deep bench that we would need to fill.

I am all for trading Pritchard and a second for Vanderbilt though.

Less "junk" is needed in a trade for Poeltl, but I am less excited about him the more time goes on, even if it is just Pritchard and Gallinari and maybe conversion of the pick swap or whatever.  If it could be Gallinari + Jackson + 1st, sure, sign me up, but likely, SAN wants more.  (I am assuming Gallinari could be swapped for a first round pick down the road).

[Vermont Green]

I think that's the type of trade that could be potentially made on draft night.  Like, #39 + Pritchard for #29.  But, months ahead of the draft, I don't think any team would give up a 1st for Pritchard + HOU/POR pick.

That said, Utah has reportedly been interested in "the equivalent of a 1st rounder" for Vanderbilt.  That's vague enough that it invites speculation on whether Pritchard (a Danny pick) and a high #2 would be enough.

The latter type of trade is what I meant.  Teams that says they want a first might except Pritchard and a second -- there are only so many firsts on the market.

I don't know, trading Pritchard to move up 10 spots in the draft doesn't seem like it accomplishes much.  I agree that this is probably what it would look like.

Moving on, how about Gallinari?  If we trade him to say SAN, what would his value be next season assuming he is back playing at a level somewhat close to the level he played at on ATL the last couple of seasons.  Could a team flip him for a back end first?  You would think he has more value than Pritchard, although more risk also.

[Roy H.]

With Al Horford and Robert Williams signed beyond this season and capable of handling the vast majority of the team’s frontcourt minutes if they are healthy entering the playoffs, the Celtics don’t necessarily have an urgent need in the frontcourt. Still, they are expected to scan the league for another big man as the trade deadline approaches, according to league sources who were granted anonymity so they could speak freely. Though Luke Kornet has been solid this season, the Celtics are expected to evaluate options to shore up the depth behind Horford and Williams while giving Joe Mazzulla additional lineup flexibility. – via Jay King @ The Athletic

The Athletic’s Shams Charania reported again Monday that the Celtics have shown interest in Spurs center Jakob Poeltl. Jared Weiss recently broke down that possibility. Here are several other power forwards and centers who could be available at the deadline for one reason or another. Keep in mind: By combining the contracts of Danilo Gallinari and Justin Jackson with future picks, the Celtics could absorb almost $10.5 million in returning salary. They could add Blake Griffin to that same package of players to take back almost $12.8 million. Any target making more than that would require the Celtics to part ways with at least one player a little tougher to move on from. – via Jay King @ The Athletic

Would an Olynyk reunion interest the Celtics? Unlike some of the other players on this list, he’s not on an expiring contract, but only $3 million of his deal is guaranteed for the 2023-24 season. Based on my calculations, a package of Gallinari, Griffin and Jackson would fall just shy of reaching the NBA trade limit for matching Olynyk’s salary, so the Celtics would need to add further money to the offer. That could be a deal breaker for Boston, which would then need to include Payton Pritchard, Sam Hauser or Kornet in the swap. – via Jay King @ The Athletic

Pritchard + junk for KO?  In a second.

Still a lot of chatter around all of this.  I think the problem is that there is too much "junk" needed to make an Olynyk trade work.  And the "junk" has to include Gallinari, who to me, could be of decent value to the team next season.  If we do a 1 for 3 trade with Utah, they have to cut players to have free roster spots.  And it still creates vacancies for us on our deep bench that we would need to fill.

I am all for trading Pritchard and a second for Vanderbilt though.

Less "junk" is needed in a trade for Poeltl, but I am less excited about him the more time goes on, even if it is just Pritchard and Gallinari and maybe conversion of the pick swap or whatever.  If it could be Gallinari + Jackson + 1st, sure, sign me up, but likely, SAN wants more.  (I am assuming Gallinari could be swapped for a first round pick down the road).

I always find it interesting to see how others value players.  I think that there is about a 0% chance that any team gives up a first rounder for Gallo.  He only got a two year taxpayer MLE deal on the open market, and he's going to be 35 years old coming off of a major structural injury.  To me, his biggest value will be as an expiring contract next year.

[Moranis]

I'll propose a deal:

BOS trades:  Gallinari, Pritchard, Jackson, better of HOU / POR #2
ORL trades:  Bamba

It is basically salary neutral for this year.

I like!  The Houston pick could be #32 which is essentially a 1st.

We don't have a first this year, so we can't give up a first in the 2024 draft, therefore, Brad is going to have to get creative.  I like this, definitely provides big depth but we'll ahve to make sure to scour the buyouts for wing depth.  I think with JB and JT nursing injuries, that's going to get important down the road deep into the playoffs.

The Houston pick only comes to us at 33 or worse, otherwise it’s Dallas or Miami.  But the Portland pick is aiming to be late 30s on its own.

I think PP has late first round (high level role/bench player on any team without the Cs depth at guard).  I think Bamba is a less valuable asset than Hachimura so the idea of trading a 1st plus a high 2nd seems to be an over pay. Gallinari plus Jackson worked for salary purposes in the trade machine I tried, but I have no idea if their algorithm is correct.

frankly given the contract, Gallinari might be more valuable than Bamba if he can come back this year.  Given the health, I'd probably do Bamba for Gallinari and Jackson, but no draft picks or other players.  I also might do Bamba, Hampton for Gallinari, Pritchard, and Jackson, but I think Pritchard makes more sense as a shooter off the bench than whatever Hampton's role might be.

What's wrong with Bamba's contract?  $10 million for a low-end starting-caliber center / good backup seems fair, and his deal is non-guaranteed next season.  And let's be real:  Gallo isn't coming back this year, and if he does, he's likely going to be slow, rusty and timid.

A floor-spacing defensive center is exactly what this team needs.  While I'd love to keep Pritchard -- both because he's solid depth and because he's got a tradeable contract next year -- having somebody who can spell both Timelord and Horford is important.

There is nothing wrong with Bamba's contract other than it is 3.5 million more than Gallinari's this year.  So he costs more.  Gallinari is better than Bamba at almost everything.  I get he is hurt, which is why I'd make the move, but no way I'd add Pritchard to it.  Way too much to give up for a guy that might not even play ahead of Kornet.

Bamba is significantly better than both Gallo (who literally adds zero) and Kornet.  And, I'd always trade a 4th PG for a backup center.

No he isn't.  He blocks shots better and rebounds better, but does nothing else as well as Gallo who is also more versatile in that he can play both PF and C, while Bamba can not.  Gallo is a much better fit with Boston than Bamba is, if he can get back to healthy.  He isn't now, so I'd do the swap just for the certainty, but not with any value added.

Gallo ads zero.  His "fit" is towel waver and rehabber.   There is essentially a 0% chance he comes back this year.  He's not Adrian Peterson.  34 year olds don't come back from ACL tears in 9 months.

Last time he tore his ACL -- in April 2013 -- he missed the remainder of that season, as well as the entire next season.  It took him 19 months to play again.  Now we're expecting him back in nine?  Despite being nine years older?

As I said, I'd make the trade, just not with Pritchard, a 1st, etc.  Bamba isn't any good.  There is a reason he is barely playing for the Magic.    In the last 12 games he has been a healthy scratch 5 times and is down under 10 mpg in the other 7 and he was a healthy scratch 14 games ago.  Bamba isn't good. Pritchard is significantly better than he is, it isn't close.  I'm not sure he'd play ahead of Kornet, who you all know I think blows. And Bamba is a pure center.  He has never played or guarded PF's in his life.  He'd be the 3rd or 4th center on this team.  If the trade is just injured Gallo and Jackson, then it is fine, anything more than that and it is a terrible trade.

Lol.  "It isn't close" doesn't make a false statement true.

Bamba leads in points per game, points per possession, FG%, eFG%, 2PT%, 3PT%, TS%, FT%, 3PM, FTA, rebounds, and blocks.  They have the same number of assists and steals, and Bamba has fewer turnovers.  Bamba has the better ORtg, DRtg, PER, WS, WS/48, BPM, OPM, DPM, and has a lower usage rate.  Pritchard is older, and is playing less.

Pritchard fouls less.  That is literally the only thing he has been better at.

EDIT:  I forgot VORP.  Bamba leads there, too.

Not on their career or even just last year.  Pritchard because of role doesn't get consistent time this year, but we've seen what he is with more consistent time.  Pritchard is better and a better fit for this team than a 3rd or 4th string center that isn't elite at anything.  Bamba doesn't have elite shot blocking or rebounding, that is the type of thing you need from a guy that is mostly out of the rotation.  Pritchard hasn't really settled into that role either, I'm fine trading him, but not for a guy that can't even crack the rotation of one of the worst teams in the league.

It seems weird to give Pritchard a pass for being behind better players in the rotation, but not Bamba.  Just apply things consistently. 

Bamba isn't an amazing player, but he'd bring more than we're getting from Gallo and Pritchard.  That's not particularly controversial.

The difference is Pritchard is behind:

1) Two players who were on the US national team
2) The reigning defensive player of the year
3) A former rookie of the year who will get strong 6th-man of the year consideration
4) Three players in their 9th, 7th, and 6th seasons, respectively.

Additionally, Pritchard is buried on a team that went to the NBA finals last year and has the best record this year, and is only in his third NBA season.

Meanwhile, Bamba is in his 5th nba season, playing for a team that is headed towards its third straight lottery appearance.  He is behind:

1) Another top-10 center from his draft, who while solid, has yet to garner any league-wide accolades.

2) A 4th-year former 2nd rounder who was salary-fodder from playoff teams twice last season, partly due to injury, partly due to performance.  Said player (Bol Bol) could get a deal only barely above the league minimum this past summer.

3) A 1st rounder from his draft who was cut by the Celtics after a few weeks of disastrous play barely two years ago, after having not having his rookie option picked up by a different team who dumped him to Boston.  He’s on a minimum-salary deal.

That Bamba can’t get ahead of any of these players screams volumes about his competency as an NBA player.  While he’d obviously be more useful than Gallo, it is highly debatable that he’d be more useful than Pritchard (whom I fully support trading because his use to the Celtics is questionable for the reasons outlined above).  It’s also questionable whether he’d beat out Kornet, since he can’t beat out Wagner, and the Celtics chose to keep Luke over Mo two seasons ago.

Gallo + Jackson and a crappy second or a stashed player?  Sure, why not, it might work.  But Pritchard and/or better/more picks?  We’d be better off standing pat.

This is what I was getting at, but this is said so much better.  Bamba blows.  Played just 6 minutes last night.  He can't get off the bench for one of the worst teams in the league.  He isn't worth giving up anything of value for.

[Vermont Green]

I always find it interesting to see how others value players.  I think that there is about a 0% chance that any team gives up a first rounder for Gallo.  He only got a two year taxpayer MLE deal on the open market, and he's going to be 35 years old coming off of a major structural injury.  To me, his biggest value will be as an expiring contract next year.

That is why I asked the question.  To me, Gallinari has more value for the team next season than Pritchard.  There is risk with Gallinari coming off injury of course but if he is back on the court, he will still be 7'-0", he will still be able to hit 3's, and he will be on a very team friendly deal.  So if Pritchard is nearly worth a back end first, to me, then Gallinari is a little more than that.  That is my logic anyway.

I think his PR team has done a good job of getting the word out that his recovery is going very well.  He may even be back for the playoffs (I doubt it), but it certainly appears he will be back on the court for the start of next season.  No team would trade for him thinking he would help this season but next off season or early in the season, it will be different.  I think if he is still with the Celtics, that he will be in the rotation next season.  He could be a starter on a team like SAN.  20'ish, highly managed minutes of decent production.  I see that as having trade value.