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Re: Busy offseason or quiet
« Reply #75 on: April 03, 2019, 06:26:30 PM »

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Again, Silky, you are uninformed. The reason New Orleans would move to Seattle would be due to a league worst franchise value due to it being in New Orleans, terrible attendance, lack of revenue generation through local media and broadcast rights, high payroll, and lack of playoff success.

They had a top 3-5 player in the league the last 4 years and everything is in it's current state of awfulness. Adding a near 30 year old, former one time All-Star that could still be struggling to find his way back to being a good player while adding $69 million in owed salary to him does not help the position the franchise is in. Putting Hayward on the Pelicans probably only lowers the value of the franchise and makes things worse.

And yes, Ainge might love Smart, but he loved IT and traded him. He loved Pierce and KG and traded them. Ainge will move Smart if that is what it takes to get a top 5 player in the league.

Re: Busy offseason or quiet
« Reply #76 on: April 03, 2019, 07:42:02 PM »

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The more I think about it, the more I realize there is no way Hayward is getting traded this offseason. It isn't so much about the fact that nobody would want him (although that has its own hurdles), but more about shipping him off just before we put together [quite possibly] the best team in the NBA, when that is why he signed here in the first place.

I get it, if Kyrie Walks, Horford opts out and signs elsewhere and we go with a semi-youth movement, then he could be traded (and the optics wouldn't be so bad), but any deal that brings in AD will have Hayward as the starting SF...and a healthy Hayward [obviously] is a real asset.

I think that Hayward, who is most effective handling the ball, is a bad fit in an offense that would have Kyrie and Horford running the offense and then Davis with 30% usage

I don't think Hayward is a bad fit in any offense. While he might not be as productive as a starter only playing with the starters, he is very Horford-like in that he is willing and able to do whatever the team asks of him. We haven't seen the best of Hayward yet.

I assume, he - along with other starters - would have their minutes spread out so that they aren't all together. To start and to end games, though, it would be AD, Horford, Hayward, Irving, and Brown (or Smart - depending on how is traded) and that line-up is absolutely incredible.

Re: Busy offseason or quiet
« Reply #77 on: April 03, 2019, 07:55:36 PM »

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Again, Silky, you are uninformed. The reason New Orleans would move to Seattle would be due to a league worst franchise value due to it being in New Orleans, terrible attendance, lack of revenue generation through local media and broadcast rights, high payroll, and lack of playoff success.

They had a top 3-5 player in the league the last 4 years and everything is in it's current state of awfulness. Adding a near 30 year old, former one time All-Star that could still be struggling to find his way back to being a good player while adding $69 million in owed salary to him does not help the position the franchise is in. Putting Hayward on the Pelicans probably only lowers the value of the franchise and makes things worse.

And yes, Ainge might love Smart, but he loved IT and traded him. He loved Pierce and KG and traded them. Ainge will move Smart if that is what it takes to get a top 5 player in the league.

I am far from a haywarad fan, but he is a marketable player, a guy you want to root for.

Having him, tatum, picks, holliday gives the fans more to root for than others and tatum.

the team does have poor attendance, and I think winning and watching player growth will help that. the team was going no where with davis

Re: Busy offseason or quiet
« Reply #78 on: April 03, 2019, 11:51:02 PM »

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Relatively quiet.

Bring back Kyrie, let Rozier and Morris walk, sign or draft some backup PG, sign an MLE PF or C (my preference is someone like Robin Lopez or similar), make 1 more draft selection, trade the other one for additional future picks, and then hope in the offseason Hayward gets to 100% (so that he can start more frequently and get back closer to his old self again) and roll with the team next season.

PG: Kyrie/?/Wanamaker
SG: Brown/Smart/?
SF: Tatum/Ojeyele/?
PF: Hayward/Theis/?/Yabusele
C: Horford/Baynes/MLE/Timelord

The ?'s are all filled out with draft acquisitions or other depth signings in the summer, so the roster will definitely look a lot better and more complete once those things are done (it's just hard to predict who those players are and will be exactly right now).
Does Kyrie stay if we dont get AD?  maybe if we do well in the playoffs.

I think as long as we aren't first round exits, he would stay. I personally think that while AD-Kyrie are great friends, their connection isn't as strong where they'd be willing to do anything at all to team up somewhere next season. With that said, Kyrie-Durant I feel have a much stronger connection and we obviously hear the rumors (especially with the Knicks), so that's worth watching.

But recent reports suggest even if Kyrie left, he'd prefer the Nets over the Knicks, or maybe even the Clippers. Same with KD. Not the Nets, but Clippers could really be his next destination where he can battle it out w/Lebron's Lakers in a fight for #1 player in NBA and the two LA teams.

My personal prediction is... Kyrie stays, KD goes to the Clippers, Kawhi stays, and AD gets traded to either Portland/New York. Lakers land no one in FA but trade for Beal (using 2 of Lonzo/Ingram/Kuzma + Picks)

Dude why/how Portland?

Well it would also depend on how they do in the playoffs. If they suffer another disappointing, early exit, then I think they would make McCollum, picks and 1-2 young players available in a trade, which the Pelicans could take unless they're blown away by another offer. Who knows, maybe the Pelicans decide they want to semi-contend and add pieces around Holiday and others. McCollum would be a good add. Also, with Nurkic likely gone for a long time, they could use someone like AD for sure. I see Portland as a dark horse team that could acquire him.

But they don't have good picks and McCollum is good but not an all star and wasn't even the 2nd best player on his team this year.  I don't see how he's even close to more compelling than Tatum + Smart.

I see you mentioning you don't think we get AD, but I'm pretty sure DA is gonna go for it, and I'm pretty sure Portland can't beat what we'll offer.

I don't see Ainge making a serious offer. Sure, he'll make an offer, but probably not a serious one considering his rental status.

Why not?  He's literally been calling the Pels front office and setting this up for years, per Woj.
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Re: Busy offseason or quiet
« Reply #79 on: April 04, 2019, 09:38:20 AM »

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Relatively quiet.

Bring back Kyrie, let Rozier and Morris walk, sign or draft some backup PG, sign an MLE PF or C (my preference is someone like Robin Lopez or similar), make 1 more draft selection, trade the other one for additional future picks, and then hope in the offseason Hayward gets to 100% (so that he can start more frequently and get back closer to his old self again) and roll with the team next season.

PG: Kyrie/?/Wanamaker
SG: Brown/Smart/?
SF: Tatum/Ojeyele/?
PF: Hayward/Theis/?/Yabusele
C: Horford/Baynes/MLE/Timelord

The ?'s are all filled out with draft acquisitions or other depth signings in the summer, so the roster will definitely look a lot better and more complete once those things are done (it's just hard to predict who those players are and will be exactly right now).
Does Kyrie stay if we dont get AD?  maybe if we do well in the playoffs.

I think as long as we aren't first round exits, he would stay. I personally think that while AD-Kyrie are great friends, their connection isn't as strong where they'd be willing to do anything at all to team up somewhere next season. With that said, Kyrie-Durant I feel have a much stronger connection and we obviously hear the rumors (especially with the Knicks), so that's worth watching.

But recent reports suggest even if Kyrie left, he'd prefer the Nets over the Knicks, or maybe even the Clippers. Same with KD. Not the Nets, but Clippers could really be his next destination where he can battle it out w/Lebron's Lakers in a fight for #1 player in NBA and the two LA teams.

My personal prediction is... Kyrie stays, KD goes to the Clippers, Kawhi stays, and AD gets traded to either Portland/New York. Lakers land no one in FA but trade for Beal (using 2 of Lonzo/Ingram/Kuzma + Picks)

Dude why/how Portland?

Well it would also depend on how they do in the playoffs. If they suffer another disappointing, early exit, then I think they would make McCollum, picks and 1-2 young players available in a trade, which the Pelicans could take unless they're blown away by another offer. Who knows, maybe the Pelicans decide they want to semi-contend and add pieces around Holiday and others. McCollum would be a good add. Also, with Nurkic likely gone for a long time, they could use someone like AD for sure. I see Portland as a dark horse team that could acquire him.

But they don't have good picks and McCollum is good but not an all star and wasn't even the 2nd best player on his team this year.  I don't see how he's even close to more compelling than Tatum + Smart.

I see you mentioning you don't think we get AD, but I'm pretty sure DA is gonna go for it, and I'm pretty sure Portland can't beat what we'll offer.

I don't see Ainge making a serious offer. Sure, he'll make an offer, but probably not a serious one considering his rental status.

Why not?  He's literally been calling the Pels front office and setting this up for years, per Woj.

AD's a rental and he doesn't seem fond of coming here. Plus the whole Rich Paul (and therefore, Lebron) connection makes me feel real iffy about the chances of him actually re-signing here, and even then there could be even more drama in 2020 since AD technically becomes a FA after the season and of course the Lakers will be in all the rumors  ::)

Like I said, Ainge will make an offer, but it probably won't be as big as people think. He's not stupid enough to gut the team for AD either (which includes giving up ALL the picks). 
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Re: Busy offseason or quiet
« Reply #80 on: April 04, 2019, 09:43:25 AM »

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Relatively quiet.

Bring back Kyrie, let Rozier and Morris walk, sign or draft some backup PG, sign an MLE PF or C (my preference is someone like Robin Lopez or similar), make 1 more draft selection, trade the other one for additional future picks, and then hope in the offseason Hayward gets to 100% (so that he can start more frequently and get back closer to his old self again) and roll with the team next season.

PG: Kyrie/?/Wanamaker
SG: Brown/Smart/?
SF: Tatum/Ojeyele/?
PF: Hayward/Theis/?/Yabusele
C: Horford/Baynes/MLE/Timelord

The ?'s are all filled out with draft acquisitions or other depth signings in the summer, so the roster will definitely look a lot better and more complete once those things are done (it's just hard to predict who those players are and will be exactly right now).
Does Kyrie stay if we dont get AD?  maybe if we do well in the playoffs.

I think as long as we aren't first round exits, he would stay. I personally think that while AD-Kyrie are great friends, their connection isn't as strong where they'd be willing to do anything at all to team up somewhere next season. With that said, Kyrie-Durant I feel have a much stronger connection and we obviously hear the rumors (especially with the Knicks), so that's worth watching.

But recent reports suggest even if Kyrie left, he'd prefer the Nets over the Knicks, or maybe even the Clippers. Same with KD. Not the Nets, but Clippers could really be his next destination where he can battle it out w/Lebron's Lakers in a fight for #1 player in NBA and the two LA teams.

My personal prediction is... Kyrie stays, KD goes to the Clippers, Kawhi stays, and AD gets traded to either Portland/New York. Lakers land no one in FA but trade for Beal (using 2 of Lonzo/Ingram/Kuzma + Picks)

Dude why/how Portland?

Well it would also depend on how they do in the playoffs. If they suffer another disappointing, early exit, then I think they would make McCollum, picks and 1-2 young players available in a trade, which the Pelicans could take unless they're blown away by another offer. Who knows, maybe the Pelicans decide they want to semi-contend and add pieces around Holiday and others. McCollum would be a good add. Also, with Nurkic likely gone for a long time, they could use someone like AD for sure. I see Portland as a dark horse team that could acquire him.

But they don't have good picks and McCollum is good but not an all star and wasn't even the 2nd best player on his team this year.  I don't see how he's even close to more compelling than Tatum + Smart.

I see you mentioning you don't think we get AD, but I'm pretty sure DA is gonna go for it, and I'm pretty sure Portland can't beat what we'll offer.

I don't see Ainge making a serious offer. Sure, he'll make an offer, but probably not a serious one considering his rental status.

Why not?  He's literally been calling the Pels front office and setting this up for years, per Woj.

AD's a rental and he doesn't seem fond of coming here. Plus the whole Rich Paul (and therefore, Lebron) connection makes me feel real iffy about the chances of him actually re-signing here, and even then there could be even more drama in 2020 since AD technically becomes a FA after the season and of course the Lakers will be in all the rumors  ::)

Like I said, Ainge will make an offer, but it probably won't be as big as people think. He's not stupid enough to gut the team for AD either (which includes giving up ALL the picks).

I have never heard him actually say he doesn't want to go Boston...

So what makes you think AD wants to re-sign with the Lakers? Because it's LA? Because Rich Paul is his agent? Because LeBron is there? Well okay... If you want to talk about legacy, if you trade pretty much everyone on the roster, considering their stock and trade value in Ingram, and a couple of others have plummeted. What else are you going to really have to contend?

I have to also think Kyrie Irving plays a huge role in keeping AD to stay here.

This Davis doesn't like Boston, bolting for LA holds actually no credible evidence other than the fact we couldn't trade for him technically from last year due to the Rose Rule.

Any trade will start with Tatum + one of the lottery picks, and Ainge will negotiate and try to at least get a reasonable trade package. Ainge isn't going to shell out 4 picks, (every time I see posters write that down, I sort of laugh inside,) for a one-year rental without 100% guaranteed assurance, and even if you do a handshake agreement. That doesn't mean jack squat.
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Re: Busy offseason or quiet
« Reply #81 on: April 04, 2019, 10:15:59 AM »

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Relatively quiet.

Bring back Kyrie, let Rozier and Morris walk, sign or draft some backup PG, sign an MLE PF or C (my preference is someone like Robin Lopez or similar), make 1 more draft selection, trade the other one for additional future picks, and then hope in the offseason Hayward gets to 100% (so that he can start more frequently and get back closer to his old self again) and roll with the team next season.

PG: Kyrie/?/Wanamaker
SG: Brown/Smart/?
SF: Tatum/Ojeyele/?
PF: Hayward/Theis/?/Yabusele
C: Horford/Baynes/MLE/Timelord

The ?'s are all filled out with draft acquisitions or other depth signings in the summer, so the roster will definitely look a lot better and more complete once those things are done (it's just hard to predict who those players are and will be exactly right now).
Does Kyrie stay if we dont get AD?  maybe if we do well in the playoffs.

I think as long as we aren't first round exits, he would stay. I personally think that while AD-Kyrie are great friends, their connection isn't as strong where they'd be willing to do anything at all to team up somewhere next season. With that said, Kyrie-Durant I feel have a much stronger connection and we obviously hear the rumors (especially with the Knicks), so that's worth watching.

But recent reports suggest even if Kyrie left, he'd prefer the Nets over the Knicks, or maybe even the Clippers. Same with KD. Not the Nets, but Clippers could really be his next destination where he can battle it out w/Lebron's Lakers in a fight for #1 player in NBA and the two LA teams.

My personal prediction is... Kyrie stays, KD goes to the Clippers, Kawhi stays, and AD gets traded to either Portland/New York. Lakers land no one in FA but trade for Beal (using 2 of Lonzo/Ingram/Kuzma + Picks)

Dude why/how Portland?

Well it would also depend on how they do in the playoffs. If they suffer another disappointing, early exit, then I think they would make McCollum, picks and 1-2 young players available in a trade, which the Pelicans could take unless they're blown away by another offer. Who knows, maybe the Pelicans decide they want to semi-contend and add pieces around Holiday and others. McCollum would be a good add. Also, with Nurkic likely gone for a long time, they could use someone like AD for sure. I see Portland as a dark horse team that could acquire him.

But they don't have good picks and McCollum is good but not an all star and wasn't even the 2nd best player on his team this year.  I don't see how he's even close to more compelling than Tatum + Smart.

I see you mentioning you don't think we get AD, but I'm pretty sure DA is gonna go for it, and I'm pretty sure Portland can't beat what we'll offer.

I don't see Ainge making a serious offer. Sure, he'll make an offer, but probably not a serious one considering his rental status.

Why not?  He's literally been calling the Pels front office and setting this up for years, per Woj.

AD's a rental and he doesn't seem fond of coming here. Plus the whole Rich Paul (and therefore, Lebron) connection makes me feel real iffy about the chances of him actually re-signing here, and even then there could be even more drama in 2020 since AD technically becomes a FA after the season and of course the Lakers will be in all the rumors  ::)

Like I said, Ainge will make an offer, but it probably won't be as big as people think. He's not stupid enough to gut the team for AD either (which includes giving up ALL the picks).

I have never heard him actually say he doesn't want to go Boston...

So what makes you think AD wants to re-sign with the Lakers? Because it's LA? Because Rich Paul is his agent? Because LeBron is there? Well okay... If you want to talk about legacy, if you trade pretty much everyone on the roster, considering their stock and trade value in Ingram, and a couple of others have plummeted. What else are you going to really have to contend?

I have to also think Kyrie Irving plays a huge role in keeping AD to stay here.

This Davis doesn't like Boston, bolting for LA holds actually no credible evidence other than the fact we couldn't trade for him technically from last year due to the Rose Rule.

Any trade will start with Tatum + one of the lottery picks, and Ainge will negotiate and try to at least get a reasonable trade package. Ainge isn't going to shell out 4 picks, (every time I see posters write that down, I sort of laugh inside,) for a one-year rental without 100% guaranteed assurance, and even if you do a handshake agreement. That doesn't mean jack squat.
the key to the trade is the ability to get AD to resign here.  if he's absolutely against it, I can't see Danny giving up much at all to get him for 1 year.  If AD is completely on board with resigning here because we can trot out a starting line-up of Kyrie, Brown (or Smart), Horford, (healthy) Hayward and himself with a decent bench, Danny will pull the trigger. 

The trickiest part is if AD open to resigning but needs to be won over to stay here.  If we can still lose him after one year, I think that cuts the offer from Danny but by how much is the unknown.

Re: Busy offseason or quiet
« Reply #82 on: April 04, 2019, 10:26:48 AM »

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Relatively quiet.

Bring back Kyrie, let Rozier and Morris walk, sign or draft some backup PG, sign an MLE PF or C (my preference is someone like Robin Lopez or similar), make 1 more draft selection, trade the other one for additional future picks, and then hope in the offseason Hayward gets to 100% (so that he can start more frequently and get back closer to his old self again) and roll with the team next season.

PG: Kyrie/?/Wanamaker
SG: Brown/Smart/?
SF: Tatum/Ojeyele/?
PF: Hayward/Theis/?/Yabusele
C: Horford/Baynes/MLE/Timelord

The ?'s are all filled out with draft acquisitions or other depth signings in the summer, so the roster will definitely look a lot better and more complete once those things are done (it's just hard to predict who those players are and will be exactly right now).
Does Kyrie stay if we dont get AD?  maybe if we do well in the playoffs.

I think as long as we aren't first round exits, he would stay. I personally think that while AD-Kyrie are great friends, their connection isn't as strong where they'd be willing to do anything at all to team up somewhere next season. With that said, Kyrie-Durant I feel have a much stronger connection and we obviously hear the rumors (especially with the Knicks), so that's worth watching.

But recent reports suggest even if Kyrie left, he'd prefer the Nets over the Knicks, or maybe even the Clippers. Same with KD. Not the Nets, but Clippers could really be his next destination where he can battle it out w/Lebron's Lakers in a fight for #1 player in NBA and the two LA teams.

My personal prediction is... Kyrie stays, KD goes to the Clippers, Kawhi stays, and AD gets traded to either Portland/New York. Lakers land no one in FA but trade for Beal (using 2 of Lonzo/Ingram/Kuzma + Picks)

Dude why/how Portland?

Well it would also depend on how they do in the playoffs. If they suffer another disappointing, early exit, then I think they would make McCollum, picks and 1-2 young players available in a trade, which the Pelicans could take unless they're blown away by another offer. Who knows, maybe the Pelicans decide they want to semi-contend and add pieces around Holiday and others. McCollum would be a good add. Also, with Nurkic likely gone for a long time, they could use someone like AD for sure. I see Portland as a dark horse team that could acquire him.

But they don't have good picks and McCollum is good but not an all star and wasn't even the 2nd best player on his team this year.  I don't see how he's even close to more compelling than Tatum + Smart.

I see you mentioning you don't think we get AD, but I'm pretty sure DA is gonna go for it, and I'm pretty sure Portland can't beat what we'll offer.

I don't see Ainge making a serious offer. Sure, he'll make an offer, but probably not a serious one considering his rental status.

Why not?  He's literally been calling the Pels front office and setting this up for years, per Woj.

AD's a rental and he doesn't seem fond of coming here. Plus the whole Rich Paul (and therefore, Lebron) connection makes me feel real iffy about the chances of him actually re-signing here, and even then there could be even more drama in 2020 since AD technically becomes a FA after the season and of course the Lakers will be in all the rumors  ::)

Like I said, Ainge will make an offer, but it probably won't be as big as people think. He's not stupid enough to gut the team for AD either (which includes giving up ALL the picks).

DA won't give up the farm if he's fairly certain he's a rental, but is absolutely going to try to get him.  People don't seem to understand that 26 year old top 3 NBA generational players are basically never traded.  If he committed to resign, he would literally cost the entire team, because he is worth more than our entire roster minus Kyrie.  DA knows this. 
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Re: Busy offseason or quiet
« Reply #83 on: April 04, 2019, 10:40:30 AM »

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I am hoping the deal is 1 of the following.

Hayward and tatum, memphis pick, clipper pick and boston pick 2020 for Davis, Hill and Moore.

Irving/wannamaker
Smart/moore
Brown/hill/semi
Davis/theis/draft
Horford/baynes/williams

Or

Tatum, smart, clippers pick, boston pick 2019, boston 2nd 2019, boston lotto protected 2022 first

For

Davis.

Irving/wannamaker
Brown/draft
Hayward/draft
Davis/theis/semi
Horford/baynes/williams

Re: Busy offseason or quiet
« Reply #84 on: April 04, 2019, 12:14:19 PM »

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Any way we get Davis and Durant to go along with Kyrie??
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Re: Busy offseason or quiet
« Reply #85 on: April 04, 2019, 12:30:00 PM »

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Any way we get Davis and Durant to go along with Kyrie??
Actually yeah.

Trade Tatum, Smart, Yabusele and two firsts to Pelicans for Davis.

Meanwhile Durant tells GSW he want to opt into his last year and be traded to Boston or he is opting out and signing elsewhere.

So Durant opts in and gets traded to Boston for Hayward and picks. Durant would need to opt in to the one year deal because if he opts out and sign and trades to Boston, it hard caps Boston which would mean needing to trade off salary and being handicapped with no MLE or LLE.

So he opts in and gets traded and next year Ainge re-signs Durant, Davis and Brown after winning #18

Kyrie
Brown
Durant
Davis
Horford

Baynes
Semi
Williams
Wanamaker - bring back
taxpayer MLE - TJ McConnell, Jeremy Lin
Vet free agent - Vince Carter
Vet free agent - Jared Dudley
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Re: Busy offseason or quiet
« Reply #86 on: April 04, 2019, 12:49:39 PM »

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Any way we get Davis and Durant to go along with Kyrie??
Actually yeah.

Trade Tatum, Smart, Yabusele and two firsts to Pelicans for Davis.

Meanwhile Durant tells GSW he want to opt into his last year and be traded to Boston or he is opting out and signing elsewhere.

So Durant opts in and gets traded to Boston for Hayward and picks. Durant would need to opt in to the one year deal because if he opts out and sign and trades to Boston, it hard caps Boston which would mean needing to trade off salary and being handicapped with no MLE or LLE.

So he opts in and gets traded and next year Ainge re-signs Durant, Davis and Brown after winning #18

Kyrie
Brown
Durant
Davis
Horford

Baynes
Semi
Williams
Wanamaker - bring back
taxpayer MLE - TJ McConnell, Jeremy Lin
Vet free agent - Vince Carter
Vet free agent - Jared Dudley
A second rounder
I'd be stunned if that's all it took to get Davis.   Durant, I could see that as a remote possibility if he pushed GSW.  they'd be unlikely to get back as good a package as that from someone else (that Durant would approve a trade to) but I'm wondering why Durant would do it.  He's got a great situation in GSW -- top contender while they keep that core together -- and if he were to leave, it's supposedly because he wants to be the big dog on his own title contender which wouldn't necessarily be the case with that line-up in Boston.  If anything, I could see him wondering how joining another superteam would further tarnish his accomplishments

Re: Busy offseason or quiet
« Reply #87 on: April 04, 2019, 01:04:46 PM »

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DA has gotta push his chips in for AD right? I have a hard time believing that isn’t the play. Enjoy Tatum while you can boys! It might be his last season here
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Re: Busy offseason or quiet
« Reply #88 on: April 04, 2019, 01:13:47 PM »

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Any way we get Davis and Durant to go along with Kyrie??
Actually yeah.

Trade Tatum, Smart, Yabusele and two firsts to Pelicans for Davis.

Meanwhile Durant tells GSW he want to opt into his last year and be traded to Boston or he is opting out and signing elsewhere.

So Durant opts in and gets traded to Boston for Hayward and picks. Durant would need to opt in to the one year deal because if he opts out and sign and trades to Boston, it hard caps Boston which would mean needing to trade off salary and being handicapped with no MLE or LLE.

So he opts in and gets traded and next year Ainge re-signs Durant, Davis and Brown after winning #18

Kyrie
Brown
Durant
Davis
Horford

Baynes
Semi
Williams
Wanamaker - bring back
taxpayer MLE - TJ McConnell, Jeremy Lin
Vet free agent - Vince Carter
Vet free agent - Jared Dudley
A second rounder
I'd be stunned if that's all it took to get Davis.   Durant, I could see that as a remote possibility if he pushed GSW.  they'd be unlikely to get back as good a package as that from someone else (that Durant would approve a trade to) but I'm wondering why Durant would do it.  He's got a great situation in GSW -- top contender while they keep that core together -- and if he were to leave, it's supposedly because he wants to be the big dog on his own title contender which wouldn't necessarily be the case with that line-up in Boston.  If anything, I could see him wondering how joining another superteam would further tarnish his accomplishments
Durant is unhappy being around Draymond. He left OKC because he couldn't stand being around Westbrook. I think Durant is gone, it's just a matter of where. If he thinks he would like to end his career in Boston, this is how he gets here.

Re: Busy offseason or quiet
« Reply #89 on: April 04, 2019, 01:54:05 PM »

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Any way we get Davis and Durant to go along with Kyrie??
Actually yeah.

Trade Tatum, Smart, Yabusele and two firsts to Pelicans for Davis.

Meanwhile Durant tells GSW he want to opt into his last year and be traded to Boston or he is opting out and signing elsewhere.

So Durant opts in and gets traded to Boston for Hayward and picks. Durant would need to opt in to the one year deal because if he opts out and sign and trades to Boston, it hard caps Boston which would mean needing to trade off salary and being handicapped with no MLE or LLE.

So he opts in and gets traded and next year Ainge re-signs Durant, Davis and Brown after winning #18

Kyrie
Brown
Durant
Davis
Horford

Baynes
Semi
Williams
Wanamaker - bring back
taxpayer MLE - TJ McConnell, Jeremy Lin
Vet free agent - Vince Carter
Vet free agent - Jared Dudley
A second rounder

Honestly, that is a perfect offseason. Perfect.

And not impossible either.

GSW makes out very well, especially if Hayward comes close to returning to form as an 90% hayward is better than anything GSW could possibly get if Durant walked.

And a more than fair deal, almost too good, for Davis.

And Vince would be an absolutely perfect add to that team.