Chris Haynes: There’s a growing belief Kyrie won’t resign in Boston

[Moranis]

Jackie Mac, asked about rumors Kyrie is leaving, laughs and says this is Rich Paul’s doing. Kinda what I thought, but when she says there’s nothing to it, that goes a long way with me.

https://twitter.com/SamSheehan/status/1090404781116542976?s=20

She didn't exactly say there was nothing to it.  In fact, she said maybe he is a little unsure.

Wow.


Honest question, are you a Celtics fan? I ask because only a non-Celtics fan could spin what Mac said like you just did.

More of a non-Kyrie fan I’d say.

But yeah, she laughed it off, said she hadn’t heard anything of the kind, and suggested the rumor came from Rich Paul. She also indicated that he’d love to play with Anthony Davis.

she absolutley laughed and then preceeded to talk about Irving's frustration and specifically said he was a little unsure.  That isn't exactly the glowing denial that has been presented here.

I'm just not a flaming homer that much if this board is.  I live in reality when it comes to my fandom.

[Androslav]

Jackie Mac, asked about rumors Kyrie is leaving, laughs and says this is Rich Paul’s doing. Kinda what I thought, but when she says there’s nothing to it, that goes a long way with me.

https://twitter.com/SamSheehan/status/1090404781116542976?s=20

She didn't exactly say there was nothing to it.  In fact, she said maybe he is a little unsure.

Wow.


Honest question, are you a Celtics fan? I ask because only a non-Celtics fan could spin what Mac said like you just did.

More of a non-Kyrie fan I’d say.

But yeah, she laughed it off, said she hadn’t heard anything of the kind, and suggested the rumor came from Rich Paul. She also indicated that he’d love to play with Anthony Davis.

she absolutley laughed and then preceeded to talk about Irving's frustration and specifically said he was a little unsure.  That isn't exactly the glowing denial that has been presented here.

I'm just not a flaming homer that much if this board is.  I live in reality when it comes to my fandom.

Good one.
Just like all faithful believe that their God is the true one and others don't exist.

[Roy H.]

Jackie Mac, asked about rumors Kyrie is leaving, laughs and says this is Rich Paul’s doing. Kinda what I thought, but when she says there’s nothing to it, that goes a long way with me.

https://twitter.com/SamSheehan/status/1090404781116542976?s=20

She didn't exactly say there was nothing to it.  In fact, she said maybe he is a little unsure.

Wow.


Honest question, are you a Celtics fan? I ask because only a non-Celtics fan could spin what Mac said like you just did.

More of a non-Kyrie fan I’d say.

But yeah, she laughed it off, said she hadn’t heard anything of the kind, and suggested the rumor came from Rich Paul. She also indicated that he’d love to play with Anthony Davis.

she absolutley laughed and then preceeded to talk about Irving's frustration and specifically said he was a little unsure.  That isn't exactly the glowing denial that has been presented here.

I'm just not a flaming homer that much if this board is.  I live in reality when it comes to my fandom.

I’ll give you that Kyrie’s personality is a bit flighty, and as such he’s never 100% predictable.

Now, can you concede that the timing of the Haynes / Bucher reports is a bit suspicious?

[jpotter33]

Jackie Mac, asked about rumors Kyrie is leaving, laughs and says this is Rich Paul’s doing. Kinda what I thought, but when she says there’s nothing to it, that goes a long way with me.

https://twitter.com/SamSheehan/status/1090404781116542976?s=20

She didn't exactly say there was nothing to it.  In fact, she said maybe he is a little unsure.

Wow.


Honest question, are you a Celtics fan? I ask because only a non-Celtics fan could spin what Mac said like you just did.

More of a non-Kyrie fan I’d say.

But yeah, she laughed it off, said she hadn’t heard anything of the kind, and suggested the rumor came from Rich Paul. She also indicated that he’d love to play with Anthony Davis.

she absolutley laughed and then preceeded to talk about Irving's frustration and specifically said he was a little unsure.  That isn't exactly the glowing denial that has been presented here.

I'm just not a flaming homer that much if this board is.  I live in reality when it comes to my fandom.

No, you’re a contrarian is what you are.

And you need to listen more closely. She said he is a little frustrated - as is the whole team - but she only said “EVEN IF HE IS a little unsure,” which is clearly a hypothetical she was positing to say that playing with AD would cure any uncertainty, if he was unsure at all.

So let’s take stock in what she said - (1) Rich Paul conspiracy, (2) puts “no stock” into this report, and (3) that while frustrated, playing with AD would cure all. Yes, definitely, only a “flaming homer” would think that constitutes a denial of this report. 

[Eddie20]

Jackie Mac, asked about rumors Kyrie is leaving, laughs and says this is Rich Paul’s doing. Kinda what I thought, but when she says there’s nothing to it, that goes a long way with me.

https://twitter.com/SamSheehan/status/1090404781116542976?s=20

She didn't exactly say there was nothing to it.  In fact, she said maybe he is a little unsure.

Wow.


Honest question, are you a Celtics fan? I ask because only a non-Celtics fan could spin what Mac said like you just did.

More of a non-Kyrie fan I’d say.

But yeah, she laughed it off, said she hadn’t heard anything of the kind, and suggested the rumor came from Rich Paul. She also indicated that he’d love to play with Anthony Davis.

she absolutley laughed and then preceeded to talk about Irving's frustration and specifically said he was a little unsure.  That isn't exactly the glowing denial that has been presented here.

I'm just not a flaming homer that much if this board is.  I live in reality when it comes to my fandom.

And you need to get your hearing checked. She said he is a little frustrated - as is the whole team - but she only said “EVEN IF HE IS a little unsure,” which is clearly a hypothetical

Exactly my point.

Only a person with a clear biased agenda can twist her take into what Moranis just did. What’s funny is that I’m pretty sure he would’ve heard things perfectly fine if it was about the Sixers for example.

Again, just consider the source (not talking about Mac). Here is a person who just doesn’t have it in him to say anything positive about the team or Kyrie. It must be really frustrating for him to have Kyrie make him sound so foolish with his god awful posts.

[Roy H.]

Enough with the attacks on other members.  Let's keep away from personal jabs and keep things more civil.

[fairweatherfan]

Two things I'm sure of:

- These sudden leaks are 100% part of the Paul/LeBron media blitz to try and spook the Pelicans into dumping Davis to the Lakers at a discount. Doesn't necessarily mean they're false but that's why they're coming out.

- Kyrie's promise to resign meant very little in terms of whether he actually does. It was a very nice gesture though, that cut way back on the drama about him staying or not. Until now of course. 

[Moranis]

Jackie Mac, asked about rumors Kyrie is leaving, laughs and says this is Rich Paul’s doing. Kinda what I thought, but when she says there’s nothing to it, that goes a long way with me.

https://twitter.com/SamSheehan/status/1090404781116542976?s=20

She didn't exactly say there was nothing to it.  In fact, she said maybe he is a little unsure.

Wow.


Honest question, are you a Celtics fan? I ask because only a non-Celtics fan could spin what Mac said like you just did.

More of a non-Kyrie fan I’d say.

But yeah, she laughed it off, said she hadn’t heard anything of the kind, and suggested the rumor came from Rich Paul. She also indicated that he’d love to play with Anthony Davis.

she absolutley laughed and then preceeded to talk about Irving's frustration and specifically said he was a little unsure.  That isn't exactly the glowing denial that has been presented here.

I'm just not a flaming homer that much if this board is.  I live in reality when it comes to my fandom.

No, you’re a contrarian is what you are.

And you need to listen more closely. She said he is a little frustrated - as is the whole team - but she only said “EVEN IF HE IS a little unsure,” which is clearly a hypothetical she was positing to say that playing with AD would cure any uncertainty, if he was unsure at all.

So let’s take stock in what she said - (1) Rich Paul conspiracy, (2) puts “no stock” into this report, and (3) that while frustrated, playing with AD would cure all. Yes, definitely, only a “flaming homer” would think that constitutes a denial of this report. 

a bit strange to chide someone for not listening and then not actually listen yourself. She clearly said Irving is frustrated with the teans performance and that he doesn't want to be the James Harden of New England.  That doesn't strike me as a statement that is a ringing endorsement of someone who is happy and for sure staying.

And sure if Boston acquires Davis I can't imagne Irving not staying.

[Moranis]

Jackie Mac, asked about rumors Kyrie is leaving, laughs and says this is Rich Paul’s doing. Kinda what I thought, but when she says there’s nothing to it, that goes a long way with me.

https://twitter.com/SamSheehan/status/1090404781116542976?s=20

She didn't exactly say there was nothing to it.  In fact, she said maybe he is a little unsure.

Wow.


Honest question, are you a Celtics fan? I ask because only a non-Celtics fan could spin what Mac said like you just did.

More of a non-Kyrie fan I’d say.

But yeah, she laughed it off, said she hadn’t heard anything of the kind, and suggested the rumor came from Rich Paul. She also indicated that he’d love to play with Anthony Davis.

she absolutley laughed and then preceeded to talk about Irving's frustration and specifically said he was a little unsure.  That isn't exactly the glowing denial that has been presented here.

I'm just not a flaming homer that much if this board is.  I live in reality when it comes to my fandom.

I’ll give you that Kyrie’s personality is a bit flighty, and as such he’s never 100% predictable.

Now, can you concede that the timing of the Haynes / Bucher reports is a bit suspicious?

not really given you know Davis has asked for a trade. Everyone will be calling their sources and trying to come up with angles related to that.  I'd be surprised if Haynes source wasn't Rich Paul or someone close to him, especially given what he said, but I don't think there is anything weird about that.  Of course because his source is Rich Paul it is coming from that angle and should be weighted accordingly.

As for Bucher I have no idea who he is talking to and thus no idea how much weight it should be given.

[Rosco917]

If Kyrie resigned now, could we then trade for Davis?

Also, many would be in favor of restructuring Horford by adding a few years in order to go after AD. Al will age well, his game is based on experience and knowledge. I can see him at 33-34 playing fewer minutes but still be a valuable asset. 


Not to mention restructure Hayward too. His first two years have been less than stellar. (Not his fault but...) He could ingratiate himself with the Celtic nation with a gesture like that. How much money do these players need?

I couldn't stand seeing AD become a LeBron led Laker team.

Yes, I'm getting a bit anxious.

[RJ87]

If Kyrie resigned now, could we then trade for Davis?

Also, many would be in favor of restructuring Horford by adding a few years in order to go after AD. Al will age well, his game is based on experience and knowledge. I can see him at 33-34 playing fewer minutes but still be a valuable asset. 


Not to mention restructure Hayward too. His first two years have been less than stellar. (Not his fault but...) He could ingratiate himself with the Celtic nation with a gesture like that. How much money do these players need?

I couldn't stand seeing AD become a LeBron led Laker team.

Yes, I'm getting a bit anxious.

In theory, yes he could resign now. But it'd have to be 2 guaranteed years at least and he'd be leaving a ton of money on the table. Quite frankly, there's no reason for him to do it. I wouldn't give up the longterm security and trust Danny Ainge not to flip my below market value deal later.

As far as Al and Gordon, you can't just restructure NBA contracts. This isn't the NFL. The exception to this is if the team has cap space and you're giving a player a pay bump as part of an extension (like the Thunder did with Russell Westbrook in 2016).

[Green-18]

If Kyrie resigned now, could we then trade for Davis?

Also, many would be in favor of restructuring Horford by adding a few years in order to go after AD. Al will age well, his game is based on experience and knowledge. I can see him at 33-34 playing fewer minutes but still be a valuable asset. 


Not to mention restructure Hayward too. His first two years have been less than stellar. (Not his fault but...) He could ingratiate himself with the Celtic nation with a gesture like that. How much money do these players need?

I couldn't stand seeing AD become a LeBron led Laker team.

Yes, I'm getting a bit anxious.

In theory, yes he could resign now. But it'd have to be 2 guaranteed years at least and he'd be leaving a ton of money on the table. Quite frankly, there's no reason for him to do it. I wouldn't give up the longterm security and trust Danny Ainge not to flip my below market value deal later.

As far as Al and Gordon, you can't just restructure NBA contracts. This isn't the NFL. The exception to this is if the team has cap space and you're giving a player a pay bump as part of an extension (like the Thunder did with Russell Westbrook in 2016).

There is some flexibility with Horford if he is willing to decline his player option for 2020.  I'm expecting the Celtics to offer him a 3-4 year deal worth an average of $15 million per year.  It wouldn't surprise me if he agreed to the deal.  I don't think he wants to leave this team before the team reaches its full potential.

[DefenseWinsChamps]

This isn't happening (too many working parts, too many teams to get to agree to deals, etc.), but I would appreciate insight of whether it could. I like to wrap my brain around possibilities.

1) The Kings trade Zach Randolph and Iman Shumpert into Denver's two large trade exemptions for draft picks, putting them 33.7 million under the salary cap.
2) The Celtics trade Gordon Hayward's 31.2 million dollar contract into the Kings's cap space for a small contract and future draft considerations, generating a 30 million dollar exemption for the Celtics to use because the trade happened into the King's cap space without salaries going back
3) The Celtics agree with Kyrie to restructure his contract, giving him a raise and more years, and using the 30 million dollar exemption to resign him midseason.
4) Kyrie is no longer on the stupid rose rule contract, enabling the Celtics to put together an offer for Davis.

I'm not advocating for trading Hayward, or resigning Kyrie, or even trading for Davis. It's just a puzzle that I want to know if it can be solved this way.

[Silky]

This isn't happening (too many working parts, too many teams to get to agree to deals, etc.), but I would appreciate insight of whether it could. I like to wrap my brain around possibilities.

1) The Kings trade Zach Randolph and Iman Shumpert into Denver's two large trade exemptions for draft picks, putting them 33.7 million under the salary cap.
2) The Celtics trade Gordon Hayward's 31.2 million dollar contract into the Kings's cap space for a small contract and future draft considerations, generating a 30 million dollar exemption for the Celtics to use because the trade happened into the King's cap space without salaries going back
3) The Celtics agree with Kyrie to restructure his contract, giving him a raise and more years, and using the 30 million dollar exemption to resign him midseason.
4) Kyrie is no longer on the stupid rose rule contract, enabling the Celtics to put together an offer for Davis.

I'm not advocating for trading Hayward, or resigning Kyrie, or even trading for Davis. It's just a puzzle that I want to know if it can be solved this way.

Cannot use TPE to sign players.

They are either renounced for capspace or used as trade balast

[DefenseWinsChamps]

This isn't happening (too many working parts, too many teams to get to agree to deals, etc.), but I would appreciate insight of whether it could. I like to wrap my brain around possibilities.

1) The Kings trade Zach Randolph and Iman Shumpert into Denver's two large trade exemptions for draft picks, putting them 33.7 million under the salary cap.
2) The Celtics trade Gordon Hayward's 31.2 million dollar contract into the Kings's cap space for a small contract and future draft considerations, generating a 30 million dollar exemption for the Celtics to use because the trade happened into the King's cap space without salaries going back
3) The Celtics agree with Kyrie to restructure his contract, giving him a raise and more years, and using the 30 million dollar exemption to resign him midseason.
4) Kyrie is no longer on the stupid rose rule contract, enabling the Celtics to put together an offer for Davis.

I'm not advocating for trading Hayward, or resigning Kyrie, or even trading for Davis. It's just a puzzle that I want to know if it can be solved this way.

Nevermind. I just read (not in the official CBA, but in an article about Harden's contract restructure) that you can only restructure a player's contract using cap space. Can someone with knowledge verify? Or is this just a reporter not knowing what he is talking about?