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Re: Anthony Davis trade thread(latest rumor page 202)
« Reply #3405 on: June 12, 2019, 11:17:40 AM »

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Also, what's up with SI giving this man a platform? Absolutely nauseating.
He's the agent of LBJ/Draymond Green/Anthony Davis

He doesn't need SI to give him a platform, his clients give him his platform.

Do you know the agents for Curry, Giannis, Kawhi, Harden, Durant?

Think about all the guys who are constantly rumored to maybe move this summer: Durant, Klay, Butler, Irving, Kemba, Davis (via trade).  I feel like out of all these superstars, only one of those agents is constantly in the news.

Of the last few big names to demand trades (Butler, George, Kyrie, Porzingis, Chris Paul) I don't know who any of their agents are.

Personally, out of all those guys I only know the agency for Durant, not the agent, and have no idea about the other guys, except for Uncle Dennis (Kawhi), but he's not an agent.  Now I recognize almost all the agent/agency names once I googled them, but wouldn't know who they represent without first looking them up.

Writing this out, I think it's kind of crazy there's so much Kyrie free agency talk, so many rumors about a superstar on the team I passionately root for, and yet I have no idea who his agent is.  Really the only Celtics players who I know the agent for are Smart (mostly because of the name Happy) and Morris (whose also managed by the infamous Rich Paul).

Rich Paul is definitely pushing hard for his platform.  Probably my biggest reason for disliking the guy.  Every article/conversation about a Rich Paul client is about the player and agent, while seemingly every article about any other player is only about the player.
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Re: Anthony Davis trade thread(latest rumor page 202)
« Reply #3406 on: June 12, 2019, 11:18:53 AM »

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Celtics must be getting close to closing the Davis trade as it sure seems like Rich Paul is in panic mode with these media warnings.

I am convinced Rich Paul is pushing LeBron's agenda with these warnings. I am not convinced if you sat down with Davis he would be making definitive statements or decisions about where he will be in 2020-21.


Re: Anthony Davis trade thread(latest rumor page 202)
« Reply #3407 on: June 12, 2019, 11:20:06 AM »

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This "warning" is all about getting AD to the Lakers THIS YEAR. If AD doesn't get to the Lakers by next season, Paul knows that it might not happen. If he already thinks AD doesn't end up on the Lakers if it doesn't happen this offseason, that kind of tells you how much to worry about this "threat" of going into free agency. Paul knows AD might actually re-sign with the team trading for him and that's why he wants the only option to be the Lakers.

Otherwise it doesn't make sense.

Absolutely. If anything, this kind of outburst shows that there is serious concern about not getting AD to the Lakers at all if he’s not traded there now. This shouldn’t change much from Ainge’s perspective. I think Danny might still go for it if he thinks it could snag Kyrie.

What should worry us though is that this buffoon is ready to go to these lengths to get what he wants. I really don’t want him around the C’s at all.

I think Paul might not be AD's agent much longer anyway. AD already has people in his ear telling him how he received bad advice and he's seeing how unpopular this tactic is. If it doesn't pay off, he's going to blame Paul. Rich Paul created this whole mess. It has harmed three NBA teams, the Lakers, Celtics and Pelicans, and their players, and harmed AD at least in the short term. Imagine AD going to a team other than the Lakers and loving it and having great success. Now, doesn't he look at his agent like "you tried to prevent all of this success"?

Re: Anthony Davis trade thread(latest rumor page 202)
« Reply #3408 on: June 12, 2019, 11:20:21 AM »

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Celtics must be getting close to closing the Davis trade as it sure seems like Rich Paul is in panic mode with these media warnings.

I am convinced Rich Paul is pushing LeBron's agenda with these warnings. I am not convinced if you sat down with Davis he would be making definitive statements or decisions about where he will be in 2020-21.

No kidding. We should all be cautious conflating agents' public statements about players with the players' own thoughts.
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Re: Anthony Davis trade thread(latest rumor page 202)
« Reply #3409 on: June 12, 2019, 11:20:37 AM »

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This "warning" is all about getting AD to the Lakers THIS YEAR. If AD doesn't get to the Lakers by next season, Paul knows that it might not happen. If he already thinks AD doesn't end up on the Lakers if it doesn't happen this offseason, that kind of tells you how much to worry about this "threat" of going into free agency. Paul knows AD might actually re-sign with the team trading for him and that's why he wants the only option to be the Lakers.

Otherwise it doesn't make sense.

Your post is what doesn't make sense. Rich Paul isn't an independent or a journalist, running around out there shouting his opinions. He works for Anthony Davis. lol at the trade-at-any-cost folks who act like Paul is driving all this and not Davis.
Do you know anything about Rich Paul or Klutch? Because your post shows a clear lack of understanding about how he operates. He is LeBron's arm
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Re: Anthony Davis trade thread(latest rumor page 202)
« Reply #3410 on: June 12, 2019, 11:20:54 AM »

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This "warning" is all about getting AD to the Lakers THIS YEAR. If AD doesn't get to the Lakers by next season, Paul knows that it might not happen. If he already thinks AD doesn't end up on the Lakers if it doesn't happen this offseason, that kind of tells you how much to worry about this "threat" of going into free agency. Paul knows AD might actually re-sign with the team trading for him and that's why he wants the only option to be the Lakers.

Otherwise it doesn't make sense.

Your post is what doesn't make sense. Rich Paul isn't an independent or a journalist, running around out there shouting his opinions. He works for Anthony Davis. lol at the trade-at-any-cost folks who act like Paul is driving all this and not Davis.

When did all of this start?

Re: Mortgage the Future on Davis/Irving ???
« Reply #3411 on: June 12, 2019, 11:21:15 AM »

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AD's agent already warned the Celts to stay away from AD.

I think it's time to walk away.

Let Kyrie go to NY.

Trade Horford for Capela.

Keep Hayward.

Start rebuilding again and hopefully no shortcuts this time.
Rich Paul, first and foremost, works for LeBron James. Klutch Sports is basically LeBron's agency. So I take anything coming out of Rich Paul's mouth with a massive grain of salt because I assume anything Paul says is to further advance any agenda LeBron wants, above even the desires of any other player Paul represents.

Until I hear from Davis that he doesn't want to be in Boston or won't re-sign, I am not writing off acquiring Davis because Davis' agent is compromised.

I agree.

But it's also very unlikely AD will commit to Boston long term if he gets traded to Boston.

It's in AD's best interest to become a FA next summer.

Right now it's looking like it's too big a risk for Boston.


Re: Mortgage the Future on Davis/Irving ???
« Reply #3412 on: June 12, 2019, 11:24:12 AM »

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AD's agent already warned the Celts to stay away from AD.

I think it's time to walk away.

Let Kyrie go to NY.

Trade Horford for Capela.

Keep Hayward.

Start rebuilding again and hopefully no shortcuts this time.
Rich Paul, first and foremost, works for LeBron James. Klutch Sports is basically LeBron's agency. So I take anything coming out of Rich Paul's mouth with a massive grain of salt because I assume anything Paul says is to further advance any agenda LeBron wants, above even the desires of any other player Paul represents.

Until I hear from Davis that he doesn't want to be in Boston or won't re-sign, I am not writing off acquiring Davis because Davis' agent is compromised.

I agree.

But it's also very unlikely AD will commit to Boston long term if he gets traded to Boston.

It's in AD's best interest to become a FA next summer.

Right now it's looking like it's too big a risk for Boston.
Davis won't sign an extension, it would cost him money. He is definitely going to free agency. But a successful year in Boston could make him want to re-sign after next season.

Re: Anthony Davis trade thread(latest rumor page 202)
« Reply #3413 on: June 12, 2019, 11:24:35 AM »

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If AD will say he will give Boston a shot at keeping him, I'm still on board trading for AD.

But if AD says nothing or AD will insist Boston is not a long term destination, I think it's too big a risk for Boston.

Re: Anthony Davis trade thread(latest rumor page 202)
« Reply #3414 on: June 12, 2019, 11:26:17 AM »

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Is Ainge and the front office allowed to talk directly to Davis sometime this week or next?
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Re: Mortgage the Future on Davis/Irving ???
« Reply #3415 on: June 12, 2019, 11:28:41 AM »

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AD's agent already warned the Celts to stay away from AD.

I think it's time to walk away.

Let Kyrie go to NY.

Trade Horford for Capela.

Keep Hayward.

Start rebuilding again and hopefully no shortcuts this time.
Rich Paul, first and foremost, works for LeBron James. Klutch Sports is basically LeBron's agency. So I take anything coming out of Rich Paul's mouth with a massive grain of salt because I assume anything Paul says is to further advance any agenda LeBron wants, above even the desires of any other player Paul represents.

Until I hear from Davis that he doesn't want to be in Boston or won't re-sign, I am not writing off acquiring Davis because Davis' agent is compromised.

I agree.

But it's also very unlikely AD will commit to Boston long term if he gets traded to Boston.

It's in AD's best interest to become a FA next summer.

Right now it's looking like it's too big a risk for Boston.
Davis won't sign an extension, it would cost him money. He is definitely going to free agency. But a successful year in Boston could make him want to re-sign after next season.

It could but the move could also very well backfire on the Celtics. He walks and this organization is screwed for the near future. 

It's one helluva gamble.  Especially in the instance that Kyrie walks in a few weeks.


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Re: Anthony Davis trade thread(latest rumor page 202)
« Reply #3416 on: June 12, 2019, 11:29:38 AM »

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Re: Anthony Davis trade thread(latest rumor page 202)
« Reply #3417 on: June 12, 2019, 11:29:40 AM »

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Is Ainge and the front office allowed to talk directly to Davis sometime this week or next?

Rich Paul claims he's "told" the Celtics about AD going into free agency. I think he'd need Pelicans permission to do that legally.

Edit: "stated that to them" to me indicates a claim of direct communication

“They can trade for him, but it’ll be for one year,” Paul says. “I mean: If the Celtics traded for Anthony Davis, we would go there and we would abide by our contractual [obligations] and we would go into free agency in 2020. I’ve stated that to them. But in the event that he decides to walk away and you give away assets? Don’t blame Rich Paul.”

Re: Anthony Davis trade thread(latest rumor page 202)
« Reply #3418 on: June 12, 2019, 11:29:44 AM »

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Keep one thing in mind. The Lakers and the Knicks sound wonderful to Davis a year out, with any number of imagined moves that will somehow turn them from disasters into contenders. Its all theoretical, and it all sounds like a chance to create a super team in a premier market.

The problem is that LeBron will be 35 by then and both teams will still have terrible management, and most of this theoretical stuff will not materialize. The summer of 2020 will come and Davis will be staring at reality.

These franchises would have to have a lot go right for them to be appealing at the point of decision next year, and their recent record of failures indicates that is unlikely.

that's a very biased view.   as soon as ad and lebron team up, the lakers are contenders.   after lebron leaves,  ad and another couple guys are contenders.   it's Los Angeles, man.    they won't stay bad for long.


But why will Lebron wait a whole season?   Why waste what could be one of his last prime years?

it's a legit point.   

i'm mostly just trying to ask why people act like there is some great appeal for Davis to go to Boston without Kyrie,  Tatum and even Smart.  What is the great lure of Boston over LA?   Haven't the Lakers won it more recently than the Celtics?

The lure is that Boston has strong, stable coaching and management now, and LA doesn't. The coach and management team that last won in LA is long gone.

Their best asset will be 35 and has a tendency to force management to cater to him to negative effect. Their best young assets have major question marks. Ingram may never get past his medical problems and Ball is a major disappointment. We'll see where they sit in a year. I'm just saying it might not look as good as it does now.



Re: Anthony Davis trade thread(latest rumor page 202)
« Reply #3419 on: June 12, 2019, 11:30:06 AM »

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Is Ainge and the front office allowed to talk directly to Davis sometime this week or next?
I believe the Pelicans would need to give them permission but, yeah, I think Ainge would be given permission if the trade was getting close to completion.