Anthony Davis traded to Lakers(page 272)

[gift]

This "warning" is all about getting AD to the Lakers THIS YEAR. If AD doesn't get to the Lakers by next season, Paul knows that it might not happen. If he already thinks AD doesn't end up on the Lakers if it doesn't happen this offseason, that kind of tells you how much to worry about this "threat" of going into free agency. Paul knows AD might actually re-sign with the team trading for him and that's why he wants the only option to be the Lakers.

Otherwise it doesn't make sense.

[jambr380]

It'll be interesting to see if Danny can gauge what Kyrie wants to do post-KD injury. If he even begrudgingly commits to re-sign to a contract for 2 or more years, then I see no problem making a deal.

The thing is, if we don't trade for AD and we lose Kyrie, we are stuck with a bunch of young players/picks and no real path to contention. I figure if we have Kyrie signed and AD leaves, we can trade Kyrie for a package of solid young players/picks and pretty much be back to where we are now sans Kyrie.

Getting those two on board for one season of serious contention would at least let us see the real potential of everything Danny has been able to do. Not doing anything puts a LOT of pressure on Tatum and Brown to develop into perennial All-Stars.

As mentioned many times before, I guess it really comes down to totally courting Kyrie.

[Fierce1]

AD's agent already warned the Celts to stay away from AD.

I think it's time to walk away.

Let Kyrie go to NY.

Trade Horford for Capela.

Keep Hayward.

Start rebuilding again and hopefully no shortcuts this time.

Why trade Horford? That'd be a gutpunch.

Feel like the addition of him would give Houston one season of having a really solid title shot though

There's just no way the Celts will be contenders without Kyrie and AD.

Might as well cash in on Horford.

If Celts don't cash in on Horford now, Horford will just leave to join a contender next season.
Celts get nothing in that scenario.

Right now the Celts and Horford can come to an agreement for the better of both parties.
Back in 2016, it was down to Boston and Houston for Horford.
Horford really almost signed with Houston.

[seancally]

If they bring in Conley...he was all NBA defensive team in 2013...that would be a massive upgrade on Kyrie who was a sieve.

Conley is 32. Guards tend to age faster in NBA.

Did anyone watch him much last season? He looked decent versus Boston but that was extent of my scouting him.

He had a solid all around year.

Also did so on a pretty suspect roster. He's a rock-solid guard. Good target, though not sure about the price. Also really hard to tell what the next few years of his career look like, but wouldn't be surprised if he remains about as effective. Think he only has 2-3 years left on the deal anyway.

[PhoSita]

AD's agent already warned the Celts to stay away from AD.

I think it's time to walk away.

Let Kyrie go to NY.

Trade Horford for Capela.

Keep Hayward.

Start rebuilding again and hopefully no shortcuts this time.

Why trade Horford? That'd be a gutpunch.

Feel like the addition of him would give Houston one season of having a really solid title shot though

Two reasons:

1. Do right by Horford -- give him a chance to compete for a title before he really goes into decline

2. Exchange a short term asset for a longer term asset; if no Kyrie or AD, then the Celtics need to shift from a short term view to a long term view.  The goal becomes maximizing the assets that the team will have 3-4 years from now.

[jpotter33]

yikes...

This has to be tampering, right?

That’s what I’m saying. How in the F is this not one of the most blatant forms of tampering that we’ve seen in this league. His agent is literally saying to the public to not trade him to x and to only trade him to y or z.

The league should absolutely step in and tell NOLA that they can’t trade him to either LAL or NYK now because of this. We were barred from trading with LAC at one time because of supposed quid pro quo rule breaking, so the same should apply here.

If Paul publicly demanding a trade was tampering, then this absolutely is even a more egregious example of it.

[gouki88]

This "warning" is all about getting AD to the Lakers THIS YEAR. If AD doesn't get to the Lakers by next season, Paul knows that it might not happen. If he already thinks AD doesn't end up on the Lakers if it doesn't happen this offseason, that kind of tells you how much to worry about this "threat" of going into free agency. Paul knows AD might actually re-sign with the team trading for him and that's why he wants the only option to be the Lakers.

Otherwise it doesn't make sense.

This is what I'm thinking. Paul is in a panic. LeBron would be very mad with him if AD ends up a long-term Knick. Even worse if it's us

[nickagneta]

AD's agent already warned the Celts to stay away from AD.

I think it's time to walk away.

Let Kyrie go to NY.

Trade Horford for Capela.

Keep Hayward.

Start rebuilding again and hopefully no shortcuts this time.

Rich Paul, first and foremost, works for LeBron James. Klutch Sports is basically LeBron's agency. So I take anything coming out of Rich Paul's mouth with a massive grain of salt because I assume anything Paul says is to further advance any agenda LeBron wants, above even the desires of any other player Paul represents.

Until I hear from Davis that he doesn't want to be in Boston or won't re-sign, I am not writing off acquiring Davis because Davis' agent is compromised.

[gouki88]

AD's agent already warned the Celts to stay away from AD.

I think it's time to walk away.

Let Kyrie go to NY.

Trade Horford for Capela.

Keep Hayward.

Start rebuilding again and hopefully no shortcuts this time.

Why trade Horford? That'd be a gutpunch.

Feel like the addition of him would give Houston one season of having a really solid title shot though

Two reasons:

1. Do right by Horford -- give him a chance to compete for a title before he really goes into decline

2. Exchange a short term asset for a longer term asset; if no Kyrie or AD, then the Celtics need to shift from a short term view to a long term view.  The goal becomes maximizing the assets that the team will have 3-4 years from now.

I get number 2, I just feel like Capela's value could diminish with no Harden.

Seeing Al get a legit shot at a ring would be nice though. He's earned it

[Fierce1]

It'll be interesting to see if Danny can gauge what Kyrie wants to do post-KD injury. If he even begrudgingly commits to re-sign to a contract for 2 or more years, then I see no problem making a deal.

The thing is, if we don't trade for AD and we lose Kyrie, we are stuck with a bunch of young players/picks and no real path to contention. I figure if we have Kyrie signed and AD leaves, we can trade Kyrie for a package of solid young players/picks and pretty much be back to where we are now sans Kyrie.

Getting those two on board for one season of serious contention would at least let us see the real potential of everything Danny has been able to do. Not doing anything puts a LOT of pressure on Tatum and Brown to develop into perennial All-Stars.

As mentioned many times before, I guess it really comes down to totally courting Kyrie.

The reason for that is Ainge tried to fast track the rebuilding process.

Celts should have stayed in the lottery for 3 years after KG and Pierce were traded to the Nets.

But what happened was the Celts only stayed in the lottery for one season, 2014.

KG and Pierce left in 2013 and the Celts were already back in the playoffs in 2015.

It's true the Celts would be nowhere near contention without Kyrie and AD.
But that's the price to pay for gambling in free-agency.
Not getting Durant in 2016 was a really big setback for the Celts.

Celts should not have signed Horford if Durant was not joining him in Boston.

[jpotter33]

This "warning" is all about getting AD to the Lakers THIS YEAR. If AD doesn't get to the Lakers by next season, Paul knows that it might not happen. If he already thinks AD doesn't end up on the Lakers if it doesn't happen this offseason, that kind of tells you how much to worry about this "threat" of going into free agency. Paul knows AD might actually re-sign with the team trading for him and that's why he wants the only option to be the Lakers.

Otherwise it doesn't make sense.

Absolutely. If anything, this kind of outburst shows that there is serious concern about not getting AD to the Lakers at all if he’s not traded there now. This shouldn’t change much from Ainge’s perspective. I think Danny might still go for it if he thinks it could snag Kyrie.

What should worry us though is that this buffoon is ready to go to these lengths to get what he wants. I really don’t want him around the C’s at all.

[PhoSita]

This "warning" is all about getting AD to the Lakers THIS YEAR. If AD doesn't get to the Lakers by next season, Paul knows that it might not happen. If he already thinks AD doesn't end up on the Lakers if it doesn't happen this offseason, that kind of tells you how much to worry about this "threat" of going into free agency. Paul knows AD might actually re-sign with the team trading for him and that's why he wants the only option to be the Lakers.

Otherwise it doesn't make sense.

Exactly right.

Rich Paul's priorities are:

1. Rich Paul

2. LeBron James

[seancally]

Also might be worth pointing out, if I remember correctly, before all this trade-demand stuff with AD he had said his highest priority is his legacy. My guess is Rich Paul is in his ear saying, "AD, listen, any team you go to will be a contender, you're that good, these big-market teams will attract the right players, just go to the big market..." and NOT saying, "Hey, AD, go to the team that's best setup for you to win and leave behind a great legacy." And that's because Rich Paul's priorities are No. 1 doing Lebron's bidding and No. 2 making his superstar players marketable celebrities in big cities and No. 3 negotiating basic contracts for the Mooks of the world. Player win/loss record is not in the equation.

[ETNCeltics]

This "warning" is all about getting AD to the Lakers THIS YEAR. If AD doesn't get to the Lakers by next season, Paul knows that it might not happen. If he already thinks AD doesn't end up on the Lakers if it doesn't happen this offseason, that kind of tells you how much to worry about this "threat" of going into free agency. Paul knows AD might actually re-sign with the team trading for him and that's why he wants the only option to be the Lakers.

Otherwise it doesn't make sense.

Your post is what doesn't make sense. Rich Paul isn't an independent or a journalist, running around out there shouting his opinions. He works for Anthony Davis. lol at the trade-at-any-cost folks who act like Paul is driving all this and not Davis.

[seancally]

This "warning" is all about getting AD to the Lakers THIS YEAR. If AD doesn't get to the Lakers by next season, Paul knows that it might not happen. If he already thinks AD doesn't end up on the Lakers if it doesn't happen this offseason, that kind of tells you how much to worry about this "threat" of going into free agency. Paul knows AD might actually re-sign with the team trading for him and that's why he wants the only option to be the Lakers.

Otherwise it doesn't make sense.

Exactly right.

Rich Paul's priorities are:

1. Rich Paul

2. LeBron James

Ha, I see his priorities differently, but I think we're thinking along the same lines...