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Re: Anthony Davis trade thread(latest rumor page 202)
« Reply #3375 on: June 12, 2019, 10:50:04 AM »

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Keep one thing in mind. The Lakers and the Knicks sound wonderful to Davis a year out, with any number of imagined moves that will somehow turn them from disasters into contenders. Its all theoretical, and it all sounds like a chance to create a super team in a premier market.

The problem is that LeBron will be 35 by then and both teams will still have terrible management, and most of this theoretical stuff will not materialize. The summer of 2020 will come and Davis will be staring at reality.

These franchises would have to have a lot go right for them to be appealing at the point of decision next year, and their recent record of failures indicates that is unlikely.

that's a very biased view.   as soon as ad and lebron team up, the lakers are contenders.   after lebron leaves,  ad and another couple guys are contenders.   it's Los Angeles, man.    they won't stay bad for long.


But why will Lebron wait a whole season?   Why waste what could be one of his last prime years?

it's a legit point.   

i'm mostly just trying to ask why people act like there is some great appeal for Davis to go to Boston without Kyrie,  Tatum and even Smart.  What is the great lure of Boston over LA?   Haven't the Lakers won it more recently than the Celtics?


Horford, Hayward and Brown are all better then any non-Lebron player.


The front office and franchise is not a dumpster fire.

And who is to say Irving doesn't resign with the Celtics if Davis is on board?   Can anyone name one player better to play with out there that can join Irving in Brooklyn or NY? 

Re: Anthony Davis trade thread(latest rumor page 202)
« Reply #3376 on: June 12, 2019, 10:50:26 AM »

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Keep one thing in mind. The Lakers and the Knicks sound wonderful to Davis a year out, with any number of imagined moves that will somehow turn them from disasters into contenders. Its all theoretical, and it all sounds like a chance to create a super team in a premier market.

The problem is that LeBron will be 35 by then and both teams will still have terrible management, and most of this theoretical stuff will not materialize. The summer of 2020 will come and Davis will be staring at reality.

These franchises would have to have a lot go right for them to be appealing at the point of decision next year, and their recent record of failures indicates that is unlikely.

that's a very biased view.   as soon as ad and lebron team up, the lakers are contenders.   after lebron leaves,  ad and another couple guys are contenders.   it's Los Angeles, man.    they won't stay bad for long.


But why will Lebron wait a whole season?   Why waste what could be one of his last prime years?

it's a legit point.   

i'm mostly just trying to ask why people act like there is some great appeal for Davis to go to Boston without Kyrie,  Tatum and even Smart.  What is the great lure of Boston over LA?   Haven't the Lakers won it more recently than the Celtics?
Lol, what?? LA haven't been in the playoffs since Anthony Davis was a rookie. Not exactly relevant are they.

Boston have a stable and elite head coach, much better management than LA and with AD better talent than LA. We're not stacked with injury-prone or otherwise troubled youth
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Re: Mortgage the Future on Davis/Irving
« Reply #3377 on: June 12, 2019, 10:51:39 AM »

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KI and AD is not a shoe in to be NBA champs.

Especially in light of their tendency to get banged up and miss significant time.


These Finals should be a lesson in the importance of having a deep and well balanced supporting cast.
No scenario is a shoe in to win a title.  The question is whether pairing kyrie and Davis is the best move or not.  Frankly, I find the alternative to be rather bleak. If kyrie walks, as expected, we’re miles away from contention without an obvious path to being a contender even if Tatum and brown pan out. If neither becomes a star then we’re toast.
This is where I'm at also.  The alternative is absolutely bleak (at least as a real contender).
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Re: Anthony Davis trade thread(latest rumor page 202)
« Reply #3378 on: June 12, 2019, 10:51:59 AM »

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I still think NOP will demand all of Hart, Kuzma, Ingram, Lonzo and #4 in a trade. Nothing short of that. So it'll still cost LAL a ton. But I think if it's not Boston, they'll find a way to get it done with the Knicks in some sort of 3-team deal.

i also heard lonzo for the 6th pick and the rest of that package.    that's a pretty good haul.    3 of the top 6 picks in this draft plus at least Ingram.
Why would PHX flip the 6th pick for Lonzo when White or Garland will likely be available??
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Re: Anthony Davis trade thread(latest rumor page 202)
« Reply #3379 on: June 12, 2019, 10:53:12 AM »

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yikes...

This has to be tampering, right?
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Re: Anthony Davis trade thread(latest rumor page 202)
« Reply #3380 on: June 12, 2019, 10:54:12 AM »

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Keep one thing in mind. The Lakers and the Knicks sound wonderful to Davis a year out, with any number of imagined moves that will somehow turn them from disasters into contenders. Its all theoretical, and it all sounds like a chance to create a super team in a premier market.

The problem is that LeBron will be 35 by then and both teams will still have terrible management, and most of this theoretical stuff will not materialize. The summer of 2020 will come and Davis will be staring at reality.

These franchises would have to have a lot go right for them to be appealing at the point of decision next year, and their recent record of failures indicates that is unlikely.

that's a very biased view.   as soon as ad and lebron team up, the lakers are contenders.   after lebron leaves,  ad and another couple guys are contenders.   it's Los Angeles, man.    they won't stay bad for long.


But why will Lebron wait a whole season?   Why waste what could be one of his last prime years?

it's a legit point.   

i'm mostly just trying to ask why people act like there is some great appeal for Davis to go to Boston without Kyrie,  Tatum and even Smart.  What is the great lure of Boston over LA?   Haven't the Lakers won it more recently than the Celtics?
Lol, what?? LA haven't been in the playoffs since Anthony Davis was a rookie. Not exactly relevant are they.

Boston have a stable and elite head coach, much better management than LA and with AD better talent than LA. We're not stacked with injury-prone or otherwise troubled youth


Lakers won it in 2010, right?   Last time I looked that's more recently than the Celtics.   And as far as more stable,  I would say yes,  but do you think this dumpster fire of a season helped their rep around the league? 

Re: Anthony Davis trade thread(latest rumor page 202)
« Reply #3381 on: June 12, 2019, 10:55:12 AM »

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I still think NOP will demand all of Hart, Kuzma, Ingram, Lonzo and #4 in a trade. Nothing short of that. So it'll still cost LAL a ton. But I think if it's not Boston, they'll find a way to get it done with the Knicks in some sort of 3-team deal.

i also heard lonzo for the 6th pick and the rest of that package.    that's a pretty good haul.    3 of the top 6 picks in this draft plus at least Ingram.
Why would PHX flip the 6th pick for Lonzo when White or Garland will likely be available??

just a rumor.   Suns just may like Lonzo more than this draft.    Some teams still like him.

Re: Anthony Davis trade thread(latest rumor page 202)
« Reply #3382 on: June 12, 2019, 10:56:49 AM »

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Keep one thing in mind. The Lakers and the Knicks sound wonderful to Davis a year out, with any number of imagined moves that will somehow turn them from disasters into contenders. Its all theoretical, and it all sounds like a chance to create a super team in a premier market.

The problem is that LeBron will be 35 by then and both teams will still have terrible management, and most of this theoretical stuff will not materialize. The summer of 2020 will come and Davis will be staring at reality.

These franchises would have to have a lot go right for them to be appealing at the point of decision next year, and their recent record of failures indicates that is unlikely.

that's a very biased view.   as soon as ad and lebron team up, the lakers are contenders.   after lebron leaves,  ad and another couple guys are contenders.   it's Los Angeles, man.    they won't stay bad for long.


But why will Lebron wait a whole season?   Why waste what could be one of his last prime years?

it's a legit point.   

i'm mostly just trying to ask why people act like there is some great appeal for Davis to go to Boston without Kyrie,  Tatum and even Smart.  What is the great lure of Boston over LA?   Haven't the Lakers won it more recently than the Celtics?
Lol, what?? LA haven't been in the playoffs since Anthony Davis was a rookie. Not exactly relevant are they.

Boston have a stable and elite head coach, much better management than LA and with AD better talent than LA. We're not stacked with injury-prone or otherwise troubled youth


Lakers won it in 2010, right?   Last time I looked that's more recently than the Celtics.   And as far as more stable,  I would say yes,  but do you think this dumpster fire of a season helped their rep around the league?

You really think a 2 year gap makes any sort of the difference?  Moves the needle at all?  C'mon.... 


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Re: Anthony Davis trade thread(latest rumor page 202)
« Reply #3383 on: June 12, 2019, 10:57:33 AM »

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With that statement from AD's agent, I think it's time to walk away.

Celts need to hit the reset button.

Time to rebuild again.

Hopefully Ainge will do it right this time.

No more shortcuts!

Re: Mortgage the Future on Davis/Irving ???
« Reply #3384 on: June 12, 2019, 10:59:45 AM »

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AD's agent already warned the Celts to stay away from AD.

I think it's time to walk away.

Let Kyrie go to NY.

Trade Horford for Capela.

Keep Hayward.

Start rebuilding again and hopefully no shortcuts this time.

Re: Anthony Davis trade thread(latest rumor page 202)
« Reply #3385 on: June 12, 2019, 11:00:43 AM »

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Keep one thing in mind. The Lakers and the Knicks sound wonderful to Davis a year out, with any number of imagined moves that will somehow turn them from disasters into contenders. Its all theoretical, and it all sounds like a chance to create a super team in a premier market.

The problem is that LeBron will be 35 by then and both teams will still have terrible management, and most of this theoretical stuff will not materialize. The summer of 2020 will come and Davis will be staring at reality.

These franchises would have to have a lot go right for them to be appealing at the point of decision next year, and their recent record of failures indicates that is unlikely.

that's a very biased view.   as soon as ad and lebron team up, the lakers are contenders.   after lebron leaves,  ad and another couple guys are contenders.   it's Los Angeles, man.    they won't stay bad for long.


But why will Lebron wait a whole season?   Why waste what could be one of his last prime years?

it's a legit point.   

i'm mostly just trying to ask why people act like there is some great appeal for Davis to go to Boston without Kyrie,  Tatum and even Smart.  What is the great lure of Boston over LA?   Haven't the Lakers won it more recently than the Celtics?
Lol, what?? LA haven't been in the playoffs since Anthony Davis was a rookie. Not exactly relevant are they.

Boston have a stable and elite head coach, much better management than LA and with AD better talent than LA. We're not stacked with injury-prone or otherwise troubled youth


Lakers won it in 2010, right?   Last time I looked that's more recently than the Celtics.   And as far as more stable,  I would say yes,  but do you think this dumpster fire of a season helped their rep around the league?
So what? Literally so what? When was the last time the Knicks won?
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Re: Mortgage the Future on Davis/Irving ???
« Reply #3386 on: June 12, 2019, 11:01:29 AM »

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I don't find the situation bleak at all. I'm all in on Tatum. I have little doubt he's going to be a superstar.

2020 is probably unrealistic from a contending standpoint, but I believe that in the next couple years, we're close. Just need to find that one guy to match with Tatum and Brown. Milwaukee and Toronto certainly aren't juggernauts.

Re: Anthony Davis trade thread(latest rumor page 202)
« Reply #3387 on: June 12, 2019, 11:01:55 AM »

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yikes...

Would be dangerous to trade the assets away and he leaves.


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Re: Anthony Davis trade thread(latest rumor page 202)
« Reply #3388 on: June 12, 2019, 11:02:00 AM »

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I would say, but Silver is afraid of Lebron and Paul....sooo....

yikes...

This has to be tampering, right?

Re: Mortgage the Future on Davis/Irving ???
« Reply #3389 on: June 12, 2019, 11:02:06 AM »

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AD's agent already warned the Celts to stay away from AD.

I think it's time to walk away.

Let Kyrie go to NY.

Trade Horford for Capela.

Keep Hayward.

Start rebuilding again and hopefully no shortcuts this time.
Why trade Horford? That'd be a gutpunch.

Feel like the addition of him would give Houston one season of having a really solid title shot though
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