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Re: Anthony Davis trade thread(latest rumor page 202)
« Reply #3435 on: June 12, 2019, 11:58:22 AM »

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LA James and Paul are desperate to get the deal done by the draft. Timing is everything with this article. Longer this goes, the worse off for them.
NO has to get the deal done before the draft as well. They want picks in this years draft.

Re: Anthony Davis trade thread(latest rumor page 202)
« Reply #3436 on: June 12, 2019, 12:00:49 PM »

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LA James and Paul are desperate to get the deal done by the draft. Timing is everything with this article. Longer this goes, the worse off for them.
NO has to get the deal done before the draft as well. They want picks in this years draft.

Unless the Memphis pick next year is the pick they really want

Re: Anthony Davis trade thread(latest rumor page 202)
« Reply #3437 on: June 12, 2019, 12:01:22 PM »

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LA James and Paul are desperate to get the deal done by the draft. Timing is everything with this article. Longer this goes, the worse off for them.
NO has to get the deal done before the draft as well. They want picks in this years draft.


NO wants to, not has to.   


But they get more leverage before the draft. 

Re: Anthony Davis trade thread(latest rumor page 202)
« Reply #3438 on: June 12, 2019, 12:02:02 PM »

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For those people doubting that this is mainly coming from Paul and not Davis, see that in the article that Paul admitted to being the one who leaked the trade demand to go public rather than keep it in-house. Dude does not have Davis’ best interests in mind but rather Klutch Sports and Lebron James.

its both.   you act as if AD would be in a bad spot if he went to LA or NY.

AD would be in a bad spot if he was limited to either LA or NY, which is the scenario Paul is trying to perpetuate.

Much better for the client to have more options, including going to one location next year and then signing in free agency with whatever team he wants the year after. It seems critical to Paul that AD lands in LA (or NY) this year. This is more about Lebron and Paul than about AD. As far as AD's interests, he can go into free agency without threatening whichever team he is on next year.
the thing is, if he really does want the Lakers or Knicks there is a very good chance neither will have cap space available to sign Davis.  In addition, he would get an extra year and more money per year if he was traded to that location and then re-signed with them as opposed to just signing there in free agency.

Rich Paul represents Anthony Davis.  It isn't the other way around.  Rich Paul is doing this because his client wants him to.  That is how agency relationships work. 
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Re: Anthony Davis trade thread(latest rumor page 202)
« Reply #3439 on: June 12, 2019, 12:03:07 PM »

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This "warning" is all about getting AD to the Lakers THIS YEAR. If AD doesn't get to the Lakers by next season, Paul knows that it might not happen. If he already thinks AD doesn't end up on the Lakers if it doesn't happen this offseason, that kind of tells you how much to worry about this "threat" of going into free agency. Paul knows AD might actually re-sign with the team trading for him and that's why he wants the only option to be the Lakers.

Otherwise it doesn't make sense.

Your post is what doesn't make sense. Rich Paul isn't an independent or a journalist, running around out there shouting his opinions. He works for Anthony Davis. lol at the trade-at-any-cost folks who act like Paul is driving all this and not Davis.

When did all of this start?
Months ago.

It's been going on for months. Paul is just more vocal about it right now. I'd suspect because the LAL aren't making the offer NO wants.

If AD wanted to come to Boston, he'd tell Paul to shut his mouth. End of story. It's not as if AD was forced to hire him and has no say in what's transpiring. It would be idiocy to throw Tatum away in this environment.

AD hired Rich Paul in September. Prior to that Davis always said he wanted to win in New Orleans. 4 months later the circus started. You think AD was just waiting for Rich Paul?

Even if your premise is 100% correct, AD is letting Paul call the shots. AD didn't back away from Paul's comments in NO, he doubled down on them. Either way, there's very little chance of a path to AD that leads to him in Boston long term, other than the hope and prayer the teams he wants to go to run out of cap room. You can spin it any way you want, AD doesn't want to be in Boston, or the man AD is allowing to run his career for him doesn't want him in Boston.

Then why is Rich Paul so concerned with warning Boston not to trade for him? Are the Celtics now in Rich Paul's interests? He's looking out for Danny Ainge suddenly? No, he's concerned with helping Lebron this year. Otherwise he knows AD can go to Boston or wherever else and LA could keep cap space and sign him as a free agent.

Re: Anthony Davis trade thread(latest rumor page 202)
« Reply #3440 on: June 12, 2019, 12:06:01 PM »

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LA James and Paul are desperate to get the deal done by the draft. Timing is everything with this article. Longer this goes, the worse off for them.
NO has to get the deal done before the draft as well. They want picks in this years draft.


NO wants to, not has to.   


But they get more leverage before the draft.
No, they have to, or the value they receive will plummet. They want player X in the draft, he gets drafted by a team who isn't a possible trade partner, that opportunity is gone and they can't get it back. They have to - and will - make a deal in the next week.

Re: Anthony Davis trade thread(latest rumor page 202)
« Reply #3441 on: June 12, 2019, 12:06:42 PM »

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Its obvious they are worried about Boston being the Pels preferred dance partner. You usually don't focus on the teams that are not a threat.

Re: Anthony Davis trade thread(latest rumor page 202)
« Reply #3442 on: June 12, 2019, 12:07:09 PM »

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The Los Angeles Lakers are progressing toward a multi-team trade that would send New Orleans Pelicans star Anthony Davis to LA, Ian Begley of SNY.tv reported, citing a league source.

http://amicohoops.net/lakers-making-progress-toward-trade-for-pelicans-star-davis/

Re: Anthony Davis trade thread(latest rumor page 202)
« Reply #3443 on: June 12, 2019, 12:07:54 PM »

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For those people doubting that this is mainly coming from Paul and not Davis, see that in the article that Paul admitted to being the one who leaked the trade demand to go public rather than keep it in-house. Dude does not have Davis’ best interests in mind but rather Klutch Sports and Lebron James.

its both.   you act as if AD would be in a bad spot if he went to LA or NY.

AD would be in a bad spot if he was limited to either LA or NY, which is the scenario Paul is trying to perpetuate.

Much better for the client to have more options, including going to one location next year and then signing in free agency with whatever team he wants the year after. It seems critical to Paul that AD lands in LA (or NY) this year. This is more about Lebron and Paul than about AD. As far as AD's interests, he can go into free agency without threatening whichever team he is on next year.
the thing is, if he really does want the Lakers or Knicks there is a very good chance neither will have cap space available to sign Davis.  In addition, he would get an extra year and more money per year if he was traded to that location and then re-signed with them as opposed to just signing there in free agency.

Rich Paul represents Anthony Davis.  It isn't the other way around.  Rich Paul is doing this because his client wants him to.  That is how agency relationships work.

Rich Paul represents AD with the strategy that Rich Paul sold AD on. So yeah, AD is allowing it. But this is Paul's plan and AD might have another plan if he plays for a team other than LA next year. Paul knows this.

The contract difference isn't a big deal. He can make that up if he's willing to bet on himself. For a guy who thinks he's the best player in the league this shouldn't be a problem (unless Paul has also convinced him he's not the best in the league).

Re: Anthony Davis trade thread(latest rumor page 202)
« Reply #3444 on: June 12, 2019, 12:08:10 PM »

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The Los Angeles Lakers are progressing toward a multi-team trade that would send New Orleans Pelicans star Anthony Davis to LA, Ian Begley of SNY.tv reported, citing a league source.

http://amicohoops.net/lakers-making-progress-toward-trade-for-pelicans-star-davis/

Well if that happens then Boston's path is pretty clear. Build around what they have and let's go.

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« Reply #3445 on: June 12, 2019, 12:08:28 PM »

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I just finished reading the article (linked below).  Some observations:

1. Anthony Davis is not going to stay here beyond one year.  Read the article, it is quite clear.
2. I can understand better why he has increasingly become a popular agent, as the players relate to his story, how he made it despite the odds. It's a compelling story. Yes, becoming friends with Lebron has helped. But this guy was going to be successful one way or another, with or without Lebron's help. That's my take.

Now, it got me to thinking more about the team I care about, the Boston Celtics. Why on earth would we want to trade for someone who clearly has no intention of staying here beyond a year? For that matter, why would we beg Kyrie to come back with the inducement of playing with such a player. Neither Kyrie nor Davis want to be here, so F 'em.  Guys like Marcus Smart, Jaylen Brown, Jayson Tatum, Al Horford and Gordon Hayward want to be here, and they're darn good players, and most of them are quite young and will get better. 

We have 3 first round picks.  This is a deep draft, that flattens after the top 3 picks.  Celtics management should conduct their due diligence, and continue to construct this team with those picks.  It just takes one of them to hit for it to be a successful draft. Factor in need, too, like PG and stretch 4/5. NO more wings unless you are certain the guy is going to be special.

https://www.si.com/nba/2019/06/12/rich-paul-klutch-sports-group-lakers-pelicans-lebron-james-anthony-davis




Re: Anthony Davis trade thread(latest rumor page 202)
« Reply #3446 on: June 12, 2019, 12:12:27 PM »

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The Los Angeles Lakers are progressing toward a multi-team trade that would send New Orleans Pelicans star Anthony Davis to LA, Ian Begley of SNY.tv reported, citing a league source.

http://amicohoops.net/lakers-making-progress-toward-trade-for-pelicans-star-davis/

These stories are all the same.  They reference an ESPN article (probably Woj's where he says lakers need to get this done before the draft) and then put their own spin on it.  Lakers are making progress.  What is progress?  They finally got someone to answer the phone when they call?


Re: Anthony Davis trade thread(latest rumor page 202)
« Reply #3447 on: June 12, 2019, 12:17:33 PM »

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Whether we end up getting Davis or not I have to give the Celtics credit for how quietly they conduct their business.  Haven't heard a peep out of them one way or another about what their thinking is.

Re: Anthony Davis trade thread(latest rumor page 202)
« Reply #3448 on: June 12, 2019, 12:18:54 PM »

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This "warning" is all about getting AD to the Lakers THIS YEAR. If AD doesn't get to the Lakers by next season, Paul knows that it might not happen. If he already thinks AD doesn't end up on the Lakers if it doesn't happen this offseason, that kind of tells you how much to worry about this "threat" of going into free agency. Paul knows AD might actually re-sign with the team trading for him and that's why he wants the only option to be the Lakers.

Otherwise it doesn't make sense.

Your post is what doesn't make sense. Rich Paul isn't an independent or a journalist, running around out there shouting his opinions. He works for Anthony Davis. lol at the trade-at-any-cost folks who act like Paul is driving all this and not Davis.

When did all of this start?
Months ago.

It's been going on for months. Paul is just more vocal about it right now. I'd suspect because the LAL aren't making the offer NO wants.

If AD wanted to come to Boston, he'd tell Paul to shut his mouth. End of story. It's not as if AD was forced to hire him and has no say in what's transpiring. It would be idiocy to throw Tatum away in this environment.

AD hired Rich Paul in September. Prior to that Davis always said he wanted to win in New Orleans. 4 months later the circus started. You think AD was just waiting for Rich Paul?

Even if your premise is 100% correct, AD is letting Paul call the shots. AD didn't back away from Paul's comments in NO, he doubled down on them. Either way, there's very little chance of a path to AD that leads to him in Boston long term, other than the hope and prayer the teams he wants to go to run out of cap room. You can spin it any way you want, AD doesn't want to be in Boston, or the man AD is allowing to run his career for him doesn't want him in Boston.

Then why is Rich Paul so concerned with warning Boston not to trade for him? Are the Celtics now in Rich Paul's interests? He's looking out for Danny Ainge suddenly? No, he's concerned with helping Lebron this year. Otherwise he knows AD can go to Boston or wherever else and LA could keep cap space and sign him as a free agent.
Why? I think that's obvious. Jayson Tatum is far and away the best asset anyone could offer, and he doesn't want a delay in getting AD to LA with Lebron only having a few years left. LA probably isn't offering up everything Griffin is asking for and Paul's trying to manipulate the situation. LA probably signs Jimmy Butler if they don't make this trade, and might lack the cap space to do it a year from now. But you'd gamble Tatum on the hopes that someone else's cap space wasn't there? That's like playing roulette with your 401k.

Regardless, AD is allowing Paul to speak for him. AD backed up what Paul was saying while he was in NO, so there's zero reason to assume he isn't doing the same now.


Re: Anthony Davis trade thread(latest rumor page 202)
« Reply #3449 on: June 12, 2019, 12:19:37 PM »

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Whether we end up getting Davis or not I have to give the Celtics credit for how quietly they conduct their business.  Haven't heard a peep out of them one way or another about what their thinking is.

Most teams that aren't ran by Magic Johnson operate that way.