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[Donoghus]

I can't imagine CP3 wanting to go to a rebuild situation there.  Knowing him, he'd be peeved and disgruntled.

[RazzelnoDazzel]

Saw this on Celticsblog.com and loved the idea.

Houston: This gets them off the Chris Paul contract and onto a Gordon Hayward rehabilitation project. They might not like the risk, but it could beat paying Chris Paul $44 million in 2022. It also gets them Jrue Holiday, a fantastic two-way guard with crucial experience playing on and off the ball, who could likely gel with Houston’s notably guard-dominant system. I’m not sure why Houston would want drastic change after coming so close to the Finals two years in a row with the same core of players still under contract, but with an apparent power struggle between Morey and ownership, a shakeup seems inevitable. The Rockets definitely need a shakeup - I’m just not sure if that calls for a complete overhaul.

Pelicans: New Orleans would likely ask for some first-round picks in the trade, and Boston would be happy to give them up (reminder: Houston has no draft picks this year). New Orleans has almost zero chance of walking away as losers in this trade. If Paul can make them competitive in the short term, great! If not, they can develop their young players and build around Zion. Capela’s contract is extremely tradeable, meaning his acquisition wouldn’t be a strict commitment to build with him as a core player. Should another star demand to be moved, Capela could be added to sweeten any trade package. Finally, Tatum has room to grow, but without the pressure of playing in Boston. Even if he stagnates, you’ve got a reliable starting-caliber player who can get you 15-20 points and play some solid defense. Oh, and draft picks. They’re a crap shoot, but you can never have too many.

Boston: Oh boy. I don’t like the idea of giving up on Hayward and trading a good, young player for two guys with one year left on their contracts. However, the nucleus of Marcus Smart and Al Horford would still be intact, Kyrie could be convinced to re-sign, and, most importantly, my favorite son Jaylen is still on the team.

Typically I wouldn’t panic over the looming possibility of players leaving as unrestricted agents because Boston has a good track record with retaining them, but taking that gamble twice in one off-season seems risky, especially with so many players having a “preferred destination” lists with dubious levels of honesty attached to them (teams with cap space can be listed purely for leverage, making lists misleading).

I won’t reiterate the value of AD for the 1,000th time, but I’ll say that Eric Gordon is exactly the type of shooting guard the Celtics have needed for the past couple years. Despite the narrative that Boston could realistically run lineups with five good-to-great three-point shooters, one of their top priorities is finding a deadeye from deep who can play off the ball. Brad Stevens has proven his schemes can hide the defensive shortcomings of any guard, so I’m not worried about the fit there.

Eric Gordon walking away wouldn’t be back breaking. Davis leaving after one year would be pretty rough though. Again, I don’t like the risk since I still believe in both Tatum’s development and Hayward’s recovery, but it’s worth exploring possibilities to gear up for a strong run next year. We’ll know more after this summer, but there are realistic scenarios where Toronto, Milwaukee, and Philadelphia all lose key players to free agency, leaving no clear favorite to come out of the conference (again).

Maybe I’m dumb, but what exactly is the trade?

I do not think you are dumb you just got razzled by the dazzle or dazzled by the razzle.

I’m not going to lie I still just have an empty box on my screen lol

Not sure why the image isn't coming up for you, but the trade is as follows

Boston receives: Anthony Davis and Eric Gordon.

Houston receives: Gordon Hayward and Jrue Holiday.

New Orleans receives: Chris Paul, Jayson Tatum, Clint Capela and some unspecified draft picks.

I want to crap all over that trade.

But I can see the logic behing it.

I could argue points as to why it works for all parties involved.

I think it leaves everyone in a better position, part of the reason I was so surprised by it.

That's actually a great trade that works for everyone. TP for sharing.

Only caveat is will NOP be willing to take back CP3, and on that contract? Yikes.

Well,

Paul was the first star player ever in New Orleans.

Paul was the facilitator of Lob City in LA, he could now do it with Zion freaking Williamson. That would absolutely put people in the seats.

Paul can help attract free agents to play on that team.

Paul
Moore
Tatum
Zion
Capella

I think that makes the playoffs out West, certainly pushes HARD at them. Weak spot is really Moore, but they could address that with the draft picks/trading of expiring.

The question is, why would NOP want to even sniff the playoffs? They need to follow the same model as the Cavs and start taking on terrible contracts for assets. Capela makes sense, I guess, as a young big, but him and Zion would severely conflict with each other.

That team is going to have some severe spacing issues.

Their best shooter is probably E'Tawuan Moore. But sure, they could presumably maybe hit 35-40 wins. That is being generous though.

I’m confused as to how the Cavs would ever be the model of “how to build a team”. Also the Pels are in a muuuuch better situation than the Cavs as their main star is tradable, not a FA. They also have more. Tradable assets to build their team for contention. Like who does the Cavs have? Sexton, and who else? What draft pick do they have this year 5th? They ranked for the 5th and the Pels have #1 and potential to pair their #1 pick with Tatum who was essentially another #1 pick...

The Cavs tanked and absorbed contracts because they had no choice. The pelicans can have a playoff core now and a future core building. Literally how the Celtics did 🤷🏽‍♂️

[RazzelnoDazzel]

I can't imagine CP3 wanting to go to a rebuild situation there.  Knowing him, he'd be peeved and disgruntled.

Now this is the issue. If the Pels Trade Jrue because he doesn’t want to be there, then what’s the sense of having cp3 there as he also wouldn’t want to be there. Unless he equates NO to home as he was the first star in NO. But that’s doubtful because Cp3 from NC

[Silky]

Saw this on Celticsblog.com and loved the idea.

Houston: This gets them off the Chris Paul contract and onto a Gordon Hayward rehabilitation project. They might not like the risk, but it could beat paying Chris Paul $44 million in 2022. It also gets them Jrue Holiday, a fantastic two-way guard with crucial experience playing on and off the ball, who could likely gel with Houston’s notably guard-dominant system. I’m not sure why Houston would want drastic change after coming so close to the Finals two years in a row with the same core of players still under contract, but with an apparent power struggle between Morey and ownership, a shakeup seems inevitable. The Rockets definitely need a shakeup - I’m just not sure if that calls for a complete overhaul.

Pelicans: New Orleans would likely ask for some first-round picks in the trade, and Boston would be happy to give them up (reminder: Houston has no draft picks this year). New Orleans has almost zero chance of walking away as losers in this trade. If Paul can make them competitive in the short term, great! If not, they can develop their young players and build around Zion. Capela’s contract is extremely tradeable, meaning his acquisition wouldn’t be a strict commitment to build with him as a core player. Should another star demand to be moved, Capela could be added to sweeten any trade package. Finally, Tatum has room to grow, but without the pressure of playing in Boston. Even if he stagnates, you’ve got a reliable starting-caliber player who can get you 15-20 points and play some solid defense. Oh, and draft picks. They’re a crap shoot, but you can never have too many.

Boston: Oh boy. I don’t like the idea of giving up on Hayward and trading a good, young player for two guys with one year left on their contracts. However, the nucleus of Marcus Smart and Al Horford would still be intact, Kyrie could be convinced to re-sign, and, most importantly, my favorite son Jaylen is still on the team.

Typically I wouldn’t panic over the looming possibility of players leaving as unrestricted agents because Boston has a good track record with retaining them, but taking that gamble twice in one off-season seems risky, especially with so many players having a “preferred destination” lists with dubious levels of honesty attached to them (teams with cap space can be listed purely for leverage, making lists misleading).

I won’t reiterate the value of AD for the 1,000th time, but I’ll say that Eric Gordon is exactly the type of shooting guard the Celtics have needed for the past couple years. Despite the narrative that Boston could realistically run lineups with five good-to-great three-point shooters, one of their top priorities is finding a deadeye from deep who can play off the ball. Brad Stevens has proven his schemes can hide the defensive shortcomings of any guard, so I’m not worried about the fit there.

Eric Gordon walking away wouldn’t be back breaking. Davis leaving after one year would be pretty rough though. Again, I don’t like the risk since I still believe in both Tatum’s development and Hayward’s recovery, but it’s worth exploring possibilities to gear up for a strong run next year. We’ll know more after this summer, but there are realistic scenarios where Toronto, Milwaukee, and Philadelphia all lose key players to free agency, leaving no clear favorite to come out of the conference (again).

Maybe I’m dumb, but what exactly is the trade?

I do not think you are dumb you just got razzled by the dazzle or dazzled by the razzle.

I’m not going to lie I still just have an empty box on my screen lol

Not sure why the image isn't coming up for you, but the trade is as follows

Boston receives: Anthony Davis and Eric Gordon.

Houston receives: Gordon Hayward and Jrue Holiday.

New Orleans receives: Chris Paul, Jayson Tatum, Clint Capela and some unspecified draft picks.

I think New Orleans gets shafted here. They're giving up the two best players in the deal and taking on a ton of money in Chris Paul, who'd no doubt be disgruntled about going to a losing situation.

In no way shape or form is anyone getting shafted. If NO just gets Grizzlies Pick here, and 14th pick or so they will be golden.  The only things they are missing is a young PG TO LEARN from cp3 and a SG other than that they are a near PERFECT roster and may tap into the playoffs. They have 3 players with multiple years of playoff experience in their starting rotation.

They can either draft a SG or PG in the 1st round. Let’s assume they get a 3 point shooting SG, Cameron Johnson? They will be fine with that and cross their fingers in finding a PG within the next 2 years with respect he Grizzlies Pick. My thing about CP3 is, contract aside how many PGs THAT ARE available are better than him? End of the day if it’s your team you want to put them in position to WIN point blank, so who are their PG options?

Cp3 is 34 years old, declining and will cost more than $123m over the next 3 seasons. On top of that, he's not going to go to a rebuilding situation willingly. If you're NOLA, you can go after a guy like Ricky Rubio to be your stop-gap "vet" or even Malcolm Brogdon. Or better yet, just keep Jrue Holiday.

Yep. NOP getting 100% shafted.

No they are not.

Jrue is rumored to have said he wants out if davis is traded

So they bring home the cities first nba star

Get tatum

Get a very desirable yet coat controlled center

Get picks.


Nop getvfar from shafted here

[Fafnir]

I cannot imagine CP3 gruntled, even in the best of situations. Dude always finds something to scowl at. (or nut punch)

[nickagneta]

Saw this on Celticsblog.com and loved the idea.

Houston: This gets them off the Chris Paul contract and onto a Gordon Hayward rehabilitation project. They might not like the risk, but it could beat paying Chris Paul $44 million in 2022. It also gets them Jrue Holiday, a fantastic two-way guard with crucial experience playing on and off the ball, who could likely gel with Houston’s notably guard-dominant system. I’m not sure why Houston would want drastic change after coming so close to the Finals two years in a row with the same core of players still under contract, but with an apparent power struggle between Morey and ownership, a shakeup seems inevitable. The Rockets definitely need a shakeup - I’m just not sure if that calls for a complete overhaul.

Pelicans: New Orleans would likely ask for some first-round picks in the trade, and Boston would be happy to give them up (reminder: Houston has no draft picks this year). New Orleans has almost zero chance of walking away as losers in this trade. If Paul can make them competitive in the short term, great! If not, they can develop their young players and build around Zion. Capela’s contract is extremely tradeable, meaning his acquisition wouldn’t be a strict commitment to build with him as a core player. Should another star demand to be moved, Capela could be added to sweeten any trade package. Finally, Tatum has room to grow, but without the pressure of playing in Boston. Even if he stagnates, you’ve got a reliable starting-caliber player who can get you 15-20 points and play some solid defense. Oh, and draft picks. They’re a crap shoot, but you can never have too many.

Boston: Oh boy. I don’t like the idea of giving up on Hayward and trading a good, young player for two guys with one year left on their contracts. However, the nucleus of Marcus Smart and Al Horford would still be intact, Kyrie could be convinced to re-sign, and, most importantly, my favorite son Jaylen is still on the team.

Typically I wouldn’t panic over the looming possibility of players leaving as unrestricted agents because Boston has a good track record with retaining them, but taking that gamble twice in one off-season seems risky, especially with so many players having a “preferred destination” lists with dubious levels of honesty attached to them (teams with cap space can be listed purely for leverage, making lists misleading).

I won’t reiterate the value of AD for the 1,000th time, but I’ll say that Eric Gordon is exactly the type of shooting guard the Celtics have needed for the past couple years. Despite the narrative that Boston could realistically run lineups with five good-to-great three-point shooters, one of their top priorities is finding a deadeye from deep who can play off the ball. Brad Stevens has proven his schemes can hide the defensive shortcomings of any guard, so I’m not worried about the fit there.

Eric Gordon walking away wouldn’t be back breaking. Davis leaving after one year would be pretty rough though. Again, I don’t like the risk since I still believe in both Tatum’s development and Hayward’s recovery, but it’s worth exploring possibilities to gear up for a strong run next year. We’ll know more after this summer, but there are realistic scenarios where Toronto, Milwaukee, and Philadelphia all lose key players to free agency, leaving no clear favorite to come out of the conference (again).

Maybe I’m dumb, but what exactly is the trade?

I do not think you are dumb you just got razzled by the dazzle or dazzled by the razzle.

I’m not going to lie I still just have an empty box on my screen lol

Not sure why the image isn't coming up for you, but the trade is as follows

Boston receives: Anthony Davis and Eric Gordon.

Houston receives: Gordon Hayward and Jrue Holiday.

New Orleans receives: Chris Paul, Jayson Tatum, Clint Capela and some unspecified draft picks.

I think New Orleans gets shafted here. They're giving up the two best players in the deal and taking on a ton of money in Chris Paul, who'd no doubt be disgruntled about going to a losing situation.

In no way shape or form is anyone getting shafted. If NO just gets Grizzlies Pick here, and 14th pick or so they will be golden.  The only things they are missing is a young PG TO LEARN from cp3 and a SG other than that they are a near PERFECT roster and may tap into the playoffs. They have 3 players with multiple years of playoff experience in their starting rotation.

They can either draft a SG or PG in the 1st round. Let’s assume they get a 3 point shooting SG, Cameron Johnson? They will be fine with that and cross their fingers in finding a PG within the next 2 years with respect he Grizzlies Pick. My thing about CP3 is, contract aside how many PGs THAT ARE available are better than him? End of the day if it’s your team you want to put them in position to WIN point blank, so who are their PG options?

Cp3 is 34 years old, declining and will cost more than $123m over the next 3 seasons. On top of that, he's not going to go to a rebuilding situation willingly. If you're NOLA, you can go after a guy like Ricky Rubio to be your stop-gap "vet" or even Malcolm Brogdon. Or better yet, just keep Jrue Holiday.

Yep. NOP getting 100% shafted.

No they are not.

Jrue is rumored to have said he wants out if davis is traded

So they bring home the cities first nba star

Get tatum

Get a very desirable yet coat controlled center

Get picks.


Nop getvfar from shafted here

Showing your age on this one. Paul was not New Orleans first basketball star.

[jambr380]

Showing your age on this one. Paul was not New Orleans first basketball star.

I used to LOVE Jamal Mashburn, but will always think of him more as a Maverick than Hornet. Baron Davis was also the man back then.

[Silky]

Saw this on Celticsblog.com and loved the idea.

Houston: This gets them off the Chris Paul contract and onto a Gordon Hayward rehabilitation project. They might not like the risk, but it could beat paying Chris Paul $44 million in 2022. It also gets them Jrue Holiday, a fantastic two-way guard with crucial experience playing on and off the ball, who could likely gel with Houston’s notably guard-dominant system. I’m not sure why Houston would want drastic change after coming so close to the Finals two years in a row with the same core of players still under contract, but with an apparent power struggle between Morey and ownership, a shakeup seems inevitable. The Rockets definitely need a shakeup - I’m just not sure if that calls for a complete overhaul.

Pelicans: New Orleans would likely ask for some first-round picks in the trade, and Boston would be happy to give them up (reminder: Houston has no draft picks this year). New Orleans has almost zero chance of walking away as losers in this trade. If Paul can make them competitive in the short term, great! If not, they can develop their young players and build around Zion. Capela’s contract is extremely tradeable, meaning his acquisition wouldn’t be a strict commitment to build with him as a core player. Should another star demand to be moved, Capela could be added to sweeten any trade package. Finally, Tatum has room to grow, but without the pressure of playing in Boston. Even if he stagnates, you’ve got a reliable starting-caliber player who can get you 15-20 points and play some solid defense. Oh, and draft picks. They’re a crap shoot, but you can never have too many.

Boston: Oh boy. I don’t like the idea of giving up on Hayward and trading a good, young player for two guys with one year left on their contracts. However, the nucleus of Marcus Smart and Al Horford would still be intact, Kyrie could be convinced to re-sign, and, most importantly, my favorite son Jaylen is still on the team.

Typically I wouldn’t panic over the looming possibility of players leaving as unrestricted agents because Boston has a good track record with retaining them, but taking that gamble twice in one off-season seems risky, especially with so many players having a “preferred destination” lists with dubious levels of honesty attached to them (teams with cap space can be listed purely for leverage, making lists misleading).

I won’t reiterate the value of AD for the 1,000th time, but I’ll say that Eric Gordon is exactly the type of shooting guard the Celtics have needed for the past couple years. Despite the narrative that Boston could realistically run lineups with five good-to-great three-point shooters, one of their top priorities is finding a deadeye from deep who can play off the ball. Brad Stevens has proven his schemes can hide the defensive shortcomings of any guard, so I’m not worried about the fit there.

Eric Gordon walking away wouldn’t be back breaking. Davis leaving after one year would be pretty rough though. Again, I don’t like the risk since I still believe in both Tatum’s development and Hayward’s recovery, but it’s worth exploring possibilities to gear up for a strong run next year. We’ll know more after this summer, but there are realistic scenarios where Toronto, Milwaukee, and Philadelphia all lose key players to free agency, leaving no clear favorite to come out of the conference (again).

Maybe I’m dumb, but what exactly is the trade?

I do not think you are dumb you just got razzled by the dazzle or dazzled by the razzle.

I’m not going to lie I still just have an empty box on my screen lol

Not sure why the image isn't coming up for you, but the trade is as follows

Boston receives: Anthony Davis and Eric Gordon.

Houston receives: Gordon Hayward and Jrue Holiday.

New Orleans receives: Chris Paul, Jayson Tatum, Clint Capela and some unspecified draft picks.

I think New Orleans gets shafted here. They're giving up the two best players in the deal and taking on a ton of money in Chris Paul, who'd no doubt be disgruntled about going to a losing situation.

In no way shape or form is anyone getting shafted. If NO just gets Grizzlies Pick here, and 14th pick or so they will be golden.  The only things they are missing is a young PG TO LEARN from cp3 and a SG other than that they are a near PERFECT roster and may tap into the playoffs. They have 3 players with multiple years of playoff experience in their starting rotation.

They can either draft a SG or PG in the 1st round. Let’s assume they get a 3 point shooting SG, Cameron Johnson? They will be fine with that and cross their fingers in finding a PG within the next 2 years with respect he Grizzlies Pick. My thing about CP3 is, contract aside how many PGs THAT ARE available are better than him? End of the day if it’s your team you want to put them in position to WIN point blank, so who are their PG options?

Cp3 is 34 years old, declining and will cost more than $123m over the next 3 seasons. On top of that, he's not going to go to a rebuilding situation willingly. If you're NOLA, you can go after a guy like Ricky Rubio to be your stop-gap "vet" or even Malcolm Brogdon. Or better yet, just keep Jrue Holiday.

Yep. NOP getting 100% shafted.

No they are not.

Jrue is rumored to have said he wants out if davis is traded

So they bring home the cities first nba star

Get tatum

Get a very desirable yet coat controlled center

Get picks.


Nop getvfar from shafted here

Showing your age on this one. Paul was not New Orleans first basketball star.

BDiddy was always one of my favorites, but did he reach the heights of stardom in New Orleans that Paul did?

He made an Allnba 3rd team in 2004, and the allstar team in 2004 while being there

Does that compare to Paul making rookie of the year and 4 allstar games?
Does  Diddy compare to paul leading the league in assists and steals for all of his years in NO?

CP3 was a bonified MVP player, the TOP pg and a top 5-10 player in the league in the New Orleans. Does Diddy or Mashburn really come close to that?

[Silky]

Showing your age on this one. Paul was not New Orleans first basketball star.

I used to LOVE Jamal Mashburn, but will always think of him more as a Maverick than Hornet. Baron Davis was also the man back then.

Always loved Diddy, but he was 3 seats back of Paul for their time in New Orleans

[nickagneta]

There was this Hall of Famer named Pete Maravich that was kinda big in New Orleans. Maybe you heard of him?

[Silky]

Saw this on Celticsblog.com and loved the idea.

Houston: This gets them off the Chris Paul contract and onto a Gordon Hayward rehabilitation project. They might not like the risk, but it could beat paying Chris Paul $44 million in 2022. It also gets them Jrue Holiday, a fantastic two-way guard with crucial experience playing on and off the ball, who could likely gel with Houston’s notably guard-dominant system. I’m not sure why Houston would want drastic change after coming so close to the Finals two years in a row with the same core of players still under contract, but with an apparent power struggle between Morey and ownership, a shakeup seems inevitable. The Rockets definitely need a shakeup - I’m just not sure if that calls for a complete overhaul.

Pelicans: New Orleans would likely ask for some first-round picks in the trade, and Boston would be happy to give them up (reminder: Houston has no draft picks this year). New Orleans has almost zero chance of walking away as losers in this trade. If Paul can make them competitive in the short term, great! If not, they can develop their young players and build around Zion. Capela’s contract is extremely tradeable, meaning his acquisition wouldn’t be a strict commitment to build with him as a core player. Should another star demand to be moved, Capela could be added to sweeten any trade package. Finally, Tatum has room to grow, but without the pressure of playing in Boston. Even if he stagnates, you’ve got a reliable starting-caliber player who can get you 15-20 points and play some solid defense. Oh, and draft picks. They’re a crap shoot, but you can never have too many.

Boston: Oh boy. I don’t like the idea of giving up on Hayward and trading a good, young player for two guys with one year left on their contracts. However, the nucleus of Marcus Smart and Al Horford would still be intact, Kyrie could be convinced to re-sign, and, most importantly, my favorite son Jaylen is still on the team.

Typically I wouldn’t panic over the looming possibility of players leaving as unrestricted agents because Boston has a good track record with retaining them, but taking that gamble twice in one off-season seems risky, especially with so many players having a “preferred destination” lists with dubious levels of honesty attached to them (teams with cap space can be listed purely for leverage, making lists misleading).

I won’t reiterate the value of AD for the 1,000th time, but I’ll say that Eric Gordon is exactly the type of shooting guard the Celtics have needed for the past couple years. Despite the narrative that Boston could realistically run lineups with five good-to-great three-point shooters, one of their top priorities is finding a deadeye from deep who can play off the ball. Brad Stevens has proven his schemes can hide the defensive shortcomings of any guard, so I’m not worried about the fit there.

Eric Gordon walking away wouldn’t be back breaking. Davis leaving after one year would be pretty rough though. Again, I don’t like the risk since I still believe in both Tatum’s development and Hayward’s recovery, but it’s worth exploring possibilities to gear up for a strong run next year. We’ll know more after this summer, but there are realistic scenarios where Toronto, Milwaukee, and Philadelphia all lose key players to free agency, leaving no clear favorite to come out of the conference (again).

Maybe I’m dumb, but what exactly is the trade?

I do not think you are dumb you just got razzled by the dazzle or dazzled by the razzle.

I’m not going to lie I still just have an empty box on my screen lol

Not sure why the image isn't coming up for you, but the trade is as follows

Boston receives: Anthony Davis and Eric Gordon.

Houston receives: Gordon Hayward and Jrue Holiday.

New Orleans receives: Chris Paul, Jayson Tatum, Clint Capela and some unspecified draft picks.

I want to crap all over that trade.

But I can see the logic behing it.

I could argue points as to why it works for all parties involved.

I think it leaves everyone in a better position, part of the reason I was so surprised by it.

That's actually a great trade that works for everyone. TP for sharing.

Only caveat is will NOP be willing to take back CP3, and on that contract? Yikes.

Well,

Paul was the first star player ever in New Orleans.

Paul was the facilitator of Lob City in LA, he could now do it with Zion freaking Williamson. That would absolutely put people in the seats.

Paul can help attract free agents to play on that team.

Paul
Moore
Tatum
Zion
Capella

I think that makes the playoffs out West, certainly pushes HARD at them. Weak spot is really Moore, but they could address that with the draft picks/trading of expiring.

The question is, why would NOP want to even sniff the playoffs? They need to follow the same model as the Cavs and start taking on terrible contracts for assets. Capela makes sense, I guess, as a young big, but him and Zion would severely conflict with each other.

That team is going to have some severe spacing issues.

Their best shooter is probably E'Tawuan Moore. But sure, they could presumably maybe hit 35-40 wins. That is being generous though.

I think my modified version is much better.

Instead of Boston getting Gordon, Pelicans do, and Boston gets Hill and Moore.

so Pelicans have
Paul
Gordon
Tatum
Zion
Capella

That team is scary now and in the future. They are the rockets with Zion and Tatum instead of Harden. Also gets the Memphis pick and Bostons 2019 first

Houston gets Jrue, Hayward, Williams and a second

Jrue
Harden
Tucker
Faried
Williams

Boston gets Davis and contracts

Irving/wannamaker
Smart/Moore
Brown/Hill
Horford/Morris
Davis/Baynes
Plus the 14th and 20th picks this year.

[Silky]

There was this Hall of Famer named Pete Maravich that was kinda big in New Orleans. Maybe you heard of him?

Yeah, totally forgot about when the Jazz was there. So Maybe I was a little quick with labeling paul as the first star, but I would put him as the biggest star they have Known. I would put Paul ahead of Pete on the alltime list.



As I am sure a majority of the current ticket purchasers for that arena have as well.

[RazzelnoDazzel]

Saw this on Celticsblog.com and loved the idea.

Houston: This gets them off the Chris Paul contract and onto a Gordon Hayward rehabilitation project. They might not like the risk, but it could beat paying Chris Paul $44 million in 2022. It also gets them Jrue Holiday, a fantastic two-way guard with crucial experience playing on and off the ball, who could likely gel with Houston’s notably guard-dominant system. I’m not sure why Houston would want drastic change after coming so close to the Finals two years in a row with the same core of players still under contract, but with an apparent power struggle between Morey and ownership, a shakeup seems inevitable. The Rockets definitely need a shakeup - I’m just not sure if that calls for a complete overhaul.

Pelicans: New Orleans would likely ask for some first-round picks in the trade, and Boston would be happy to give them up (reminder: Houston has no draft picks this year). New Orleans has almost zero chance of walking away as losers in this trade. If Paul can make them competitive in the short term, great! If not, they can develop their young players and build around Zion. Capela’s contract is extremely tradeable, meaning his acquisition wouldn’t be a strict commitment to build with him as a core player. Should another star demand to be moved, Capela could be added to sweeten any trade package. Finally, Tatum has room to grow, but without the pressure of playing in Boston. Even if he stagnates, you’ve got a reliable starting-caliber player who can get you 15-20 points and play some solid defense. Oh, and draft picks. They’re a crap shoot, but you can never have too many.

Boston: Oh boy. I don’t like the idea of giving up on Hayward and trading a good, young player for two guys with one year left on their contracts. However, the nucleus of Marcus Smart and Al Horford would still be intact, Kyrie could be convinced to re-sign, and, most importantly, my favorite son Jaylen is still on the team.

Typically I wouldn’t panic over the looming possibility of players leaving as unrestricted agents because Boston has a good track record with retaining them, but taking that gamble twice in one off-season seems risky, especially with so many players having a “preferred destination” lists with dubious levels of honesty attached to them (teams with cap space can be listed purely for leverage, making lists misleading).

I won’t reiterate the value of AD for the 1,000th time, but I’ll say that Eric Gordon is exactly the type of shooting guard the Celtics have needed for the past couple years. Despite the narrative that Boston could realistically run lineups with five good-to-great three-point shooters, one of their top priorities is finding a deadeye from deep who can play off the ball. Brad Stevens has proven his schemes can hide the defensive shortcomings of any guard, so I’m not worried about the fit there.

Eric Gordon walking away wouldn’t be back breaking. Davis leaving after one year would be pretty rough though. Again, I don’t like the risk since I still believe in both Tatum’s development and Hayward’s recovery, but it’s worth exploring possibilities to gear up for a strong run next year. We’ll know more after this summer, but there are realistic scenarios where Toronto, Milwaukee, and Philadelphia all lose key players to free agency, leaving no clear favorite to come out of the conference (again).

Maybe I’m dumb, but what exactly is the trade?

I do not think you are dumb you just got razzled by the dazzle or dazzled by the razzle.

I’m not going to lie I still just have an empty box on my screen lol

Not sure why the image isn't coming up for you, but the trade is as follows

Boston receives: Anthony Davis and Eric Gordon.

Houston receives: Gordon Hayward and Jrue Holiday.

New Orleans receives: Chris Paul, Jayson Tatum, Clint Capela and some unspecified draft picks.

I think New Orleans gets shafted here. They're giving up the two best players in the deal and taking on a ton of money in Chris Paul, who'd no doubt be disgruntled about going to a losing situation.

In no way shape or form is anyone getting shafted. If NO just gets Grizzlies Pick here, and 14th pick or so they will be golden.  The only things they are missing is a young PG TO LEARN from cp3 and a SG other than that they are a near PERFECT roster and may tap into the playoffs. They have 3 players with multiple years of playoff experience in their starting rotation.

They can either draft a SG or PG in the 1st round. Let’s assume they get a 3 point shooting SG, Cameron Johnson? They will be fine with that and cross their fingers in finding a PG within the next 2 years with respect he Grizzlies Pick. My thing about CP3 is, contract aside how many PGs THAT ARE available are better than him? End of the day if it’s your team you want to put them in position to WIN point blank, so who are their PG options?

Cp3 is 34 years old, declining and will cost more than $123m over the next 3 seasons. On top of that, he's not going to go to a rebuilding situation willingly. If you're NOLA, you can go after a guy like Ricky Rubio to be your stop-gap "vet" or even Malcolm Brogdon. Or better yet, just keep Jrue Holiday.

Yep. NOP getting 100% shafted.

No they are not.

Jrue is rumored to have said he wants out if davis is traded

So they bring home the cities first nba star

Get tatum

Get a very desirable yet coat controlled center

Get picks.


Nop getvfar from shafted here

Showing your age on this one. Paul was not New Orleans first basketball star.

BDiddy was always one of my favorites, but did he reach the heights of stardom in New Orleans that Paul did?

He made an Allnba 3rd team in 2004, and the allstar team in 2004 while being there

Does that compare to Paul making rookie of the year and 4 allstar games?
Does  Diddy compare to paul leading the league in assists and steals for all of his years in NO?

CP3 was a bonified MVP player, the TOP pg and a top 5-10 player in the league in the New Orleans. Does Diddy or Mashburn really come close to that?

Of all the points that was made, cp3 being the first star in NO is so moot lol.

[RJ87]

Saw this on Celticsblog.com and loved the idea.

Houston: This gets them off the Chris Paul contract and onto a Gordon Hayward rehabilitation project. They might not like the risk, but it could beat paying Chris Paul $44 million in 2022. It also gets them Jrue Holiday, a fantastic two-way guard with crucial experience playing on and off the ball, who could likely gel with Houston’s notably guard-dominant system. I’m not sure why Houston would want drastic change after coming so close to the Finals two years in a row with the same core of players still under contract, but with an apparent power struggle between Morey and ownership, a shakeup seems inevitable. The Rockets definitely need a shakeup - I’m just not sure if that calls for a complete overhaul.

Pelicans: New Orleans would likely ask for some first-round picks in the trade, and Boston would be happy to give them up (reminder: Houston has no draft picks this year). New Orleans has almost zero chance of walking away as losers in this trade. If Paul can make them competitive in the short term, great! If not, they can develop their young players and build around Zion. Capela’s contract is extremely tradeable, meaning his acquisition wouldn’t be a strict commitment to build with him as a core player. Should another star demand to be moved, Capela could be added to sweeten any trade package. Finally, Tatum has room to grow, but without the pressure of playing in Boston. Even if he stagnates, you’ve got a reliable starting-caliber player who can get you 15-20 points and play some solid defense. Oh, and draft picks. They’re a crap shoot, but you can never have too many.

Boston: Oh boy. I don’t like the idea of giving up on Hayward and trading a good, young player for two guys with one year left on their contracts. However, the nucleus of Marcus Smart and Al Horford would still be intact, Kyrie could be convinced to re-sign, and, most importantly, my favorite son Jaylen is still on the team.

Typically I wouldn’t panic over the looming possibility of players leaving as unrestricted agents because Boston has a good track record with retaining them, but taking that gamble twice in one off-season seems risky, especially with so many players having a “preferred destination” lists with dubious levels of honesty attached to them (teams with cap space can be listed purely for leverage, making lists misleading).

I won’t reiterate the value of AD for the 1,000th time, but I’ll say that Eric Gordon is exactly the type of shooting guard the Celtics have needed for the past couple years. Despite the narrative that Boston could realistically run lineups with five good-to-great three-point shooters, one of their top priorities is finding a deadeye from deep who can play off the ball. Brad Stevens has proven his schemes can hide the defensive shortcomings of any guard, so I’m not worried about the fit there.

Eric Gordon walking away wouldn’t be back breaking. Davis leaving after one year would be pretty rough though. Again, I don’t like the risk since I still believe in both Tatum’s development and Hayward’s recovery, but it’s worth exploring possibilities to gear up for a strong run next year. We’ll know more after this summer, but there are realistic scenarios where Toronto, Milwaukee, and Philadelphia all lose key players to free agency, leaving no clear favorite to come out of the conference (again).

Maybe I’m dumb, but what exactly is the trade?

I do not think you are dumb you just got razzled by the dazzle or dazzled by the razzle.

I’m not going to lie I still just have an empty box on my screen lol

Not sure why the image isn't coming up for you, but the trade is as follows

Boston receives: Anthony Davis and Eric Gordon.

Houston receives: Gordon Hayward and Jrue Holiday.

New Orleans receives: Chris Paul, Jayson Tatum, Clint Capela and some unspecified draft picks.

I think New Orleans gets shafted here. They're giving up the two best players in the deal and taking on a ton of money in Chris Paul, who'd no doubt be disgruntled about going to a losing situation.

In no way shape or form is anyone getting shafted. If NO just gets Grizzlies Pick here, and 14th pick or so they will be golden.  The only things they are missing is a young PG TO LEARN from cp3 and a SG other than that they are a near PERFECT roster and may tap into the playoffs. They have 3 players with multiple years of playoff experience in their starting rotation.

They can either draft a SG or PG in the 1st round. Let’s assume they get a 3 point shooting SG, Cameron Johnson? They will be fine with that and cross their fingers in finding a PG within the next 2 years with respect he Grizzlies Pick. My thing about CP3 is, contract aside how many PGs THAT ARE available are better than him? End of the day if it’s your team you want to put them in position to WIN point blank, so who are their PG options?

Cp3 is 34 years old, declining and will cost more than $123m over the next 3 seasons. On top of that, he's not going to go to a rebuilding situation willingly. If you're NOLA, you can go after a guy like Ricky Rubio to be your stop-gap "vet" or even Malcolm Brogdon. Or better yet, just keep Jrue Holiday.

Yep. NOP getting 100% shafted.

No they are not.

Jrue is rumored to have said he wants out if davis is traded

So they bring home the cities first nba star

Get tatum

Get a very desirable yet coat controlled center

Get picks.


Nop getvfar from shafted here

Even if it's Jrue wants out, you could trade him in a separate deal for a far better return than CP3 - who isn't going to want to be there either.

[RazzelnoDazzel]

I think we are going to have to take it serious that there might be an AD with no Kyrie situation on the rise. This in turn will leave us with many holes. The only way I wouldn’t mind Rozier as the PG is if we are keep both Brown and Tatum.  If we trade for AD I don’t think DA makes Rozier the starter. It would have to be someone who is either familiar with AD or who is all around a good PG.

I think at this point our choice would be MLE on Rondo, or a trade for CP3. As much as I’m not as happy about that it’s just the cold hard truth. All I know for sure we will be left with;

PG:
SG: Brown
SF: Hayward
PF:Horford
C: Davis

You have to have an experienced pass 1st PG to work with this roster.  We kind of have 1 shot in wowing Davis, DA can’t blow it.