Anthony Davis traded to Lakers(page 272)

[PhoSita]

I think if they trade for Davis despite Kyrie leaving they have to trade for Conley.

You're not contending for a title with Terry Rozier as your lead ballhandler.

[gouki88]

I think if they trade for Davis despite Kyrie leaving they have to trade for Conley.

You're not contending for a title with Terry Rozier as your lead ballhandler.

I never thought about that, but I 100% agree. Conley is a bit old, but that's the only way we can contend. Otherwise we're just New Orleans 2.0

[RazzelnoDazzel]

I think if they trade for Davis despite Kyrie leaving they have to trade for Conley.

You're not contending for a title with Terry Rozier as your lead ballhandler.

I don’t even think Conley is worth it. I do believe Rondo, Rubio, and Cp3 are better “players” than Conley. If you disagree I’ll take the time to look into Conley more.

[Monkhouse]

I think if they trade for Davis despite Kyrie leaving they have to trade for Conley.

You're not contending for a title with Terry Rozier as your lead ballhandler.

I don’t even think Conley is worth it. I do believe Rondo, Rubio, and Cp3 are better “players” than Conley. If you disagree I’ll take the time to look into Conley more.

CP3's contract is an albatross... Even if CP3 is better, why pay him that much money?

Rondo/Rubio are all washed up, and Rubio shot 31% from 3PA....

Conley behind a healthy CP3 is the best choice, and only signed up for 2 more years.

[Fafnir]

I think if they trade for Davis despite Kyrie leaving they have to trade for Conley.

You're not contending for a title with Terry Rozier as your lead ballhandler.

I don’t even think Conley is worth it. I do believe Rondo, Rubio, and Cp3 are better “players” than Conley. If you disagree I’ll take the time to look into Conley more.

Conley is better than Rondo/Rubio at this point.

CP3 is more of an edge case because he has productive stretches where he looks like all-star CP3 and then others where he looks like "old" CP3. Given his contract though....yikes.

[RJ87]

I think if they trade for Davis despite Kyrie leaving they have to trade for Conley.

You're not contending for a title with Terry Rozier as your lead ballhandler.

I never thought about that, but I 100% agree. Conley is a bit old, but that's the only way we can contend. Otherwise we're just New Orleans 2.0

Conley makes $32m next season. How are we matching salary in a trade?

[RazzelnoDazzel]

I think if they trade for Davis despite Kyrie leaving they have to trade for Conley.

You're not contending for a title with Terry Rozier as your lead ballhandler.

I never thought about that, but I 100% agree. Conley is a bit old, but that's the only way we can contend. Otherwise we're just New Orleans 2.0

Conley makes $32m next season. How are we matching salary in a trade?

Regardless of that DA will make the numbers work. We are losing Smart, Kyrie, and Tatum at this point, so I’m not too concerned about salaries right now. We have Hayward/Horford (maybe Rozier), and most of our draft picks as trade assets to fill this roster in.

I don’t care much about cp3 contract if I’m confident that he can push us to the finals.

[Fafnir]

I think if they trade for Davis despite Kyrie leaving they have to trade for Conley.

You're not contending for a title with Terry Rozier as your lead ballhandler.

I never thought about that, but I 100% agree. Conley is a bit old, but that's the only way we can contend. Otherwise we're just New Orleans 2.0

Conley makes $32m next season. How are we matching salary in a trade?

Yeah I don't see how he's a realistic option unless we move Horford/Hayward after a Davis trade.

Ugh. Wish things were as simple as I thought they'd be at the start of this year.

[JBcat]

I think if they trade for Davis despite Kyrie leaving they have to trade for Conley.

You're not contending for a title with Terry Rozier as your lead ballhandler.

I don’t even think Conley is worth it. I do believe Rondo, Rubio, and Cp3 are better “players” than Conley. If you disagree I’ll take the time to look into Conley more.

Conley is better than Rondo/Rubio at this point.

CP3 is more of an edge case because he has productive stretches where he looks like all-star CP3 and then others where he looks like "old" CP3. Given his contract though....yikes.

Conley is better however you have to trade assets for him, and his big contract makes that very difficult.  Plus he is at a dangerous age where his skills could decline rapidly.

I actually like the Rubio fit if we could get him for the MLE.  Hayward, Tatum, and Brown could pick up most of the scoring left behind with Irving gone, and Rubio is very solid in other areas.  He is only 28 at a safer age than Rondo or Conley, and you don’t lose assets to get him. Not ideal but I wouldn’t mind it at all.

If we lose Irving I wouldn’t mind Rubio at all.

[td450]

I think if they trade for Davis despite Kyrie leaving they have to trade for Conley.

You're not contending for a title with Terry Rozier as your lead ballhandler.

I never thought about that, but I 100% agree. Conley is a bit old, but that's the only way we can contend. Otherwise we're just New Orleans 2.0

Conley makes $32m next season. How are we matching salary in a trade?

There is only one rational way. Trade Hayward. Assuming we keep Brown, you could also resign Morris to start at small forward. That would still be a pretty scary starting lineup.

[JBcat]

I think if they trade for Davis despite Kyrie leaving they have to trade for Conley.

You're not contending for a title with Terry Rozier as your lead ballhandler.

I never thought about that, but I 100% agree. Conley is a bit old, but that's the only way we can contend. Otherwise we're just New Orleans 2.0

Conley makes $32m next season. How are we matching salary in a trade?

There is only one rational way. Trade Hayward. Assuming we keep Brown, you could also resign Morris to start at small forward. That would still be a pretty scary starting lineup.

For me I don’t want trade Hayward as distressed asset, unless it’s something crazy like for Durant.

We might end up regretting that trade if Hayward returns to his old self still in his 20s, with Conley another year into his 30’s.

[RazzelnoDazzel]

Plus y’all have to remember if we trade for Davis and Horford restructures his contract, and we let Morris and Baynes walk, we will be under the cap, so we won’t exactly have to trade Hayward.

Of course Conley would be easier to be had without Hayward being involved than Cp3

If Morris and Rozier agree to a sign and trade to the rockets Cp3 could be had without Hayward being traded as crazy it it sounds fellas. And the crazy part is we could get future picks from the rockets by doing such trade. If your lineup is;

PG: Paul
SG: Brown
SF: Hayward
PF: Horford
C:  Davis

You are beating younger teams. The only threat would be the Raptors if they can keep Kawhi, if they can’t the East is the Celtics. The only issue would be they would need future draft picks to eventually replace Paul and Horford within 2 years or so.

[gouki88]

I think if they trade for Davis despite Kyrie leaving they have to trade for Conley.

You're not contending for a title with Terry Rozier as your lead ballhandler.

I never thought about that, but I 100% agree. Conley is a bit old, but that's the only way we can contend. Otherwise we're just New Orleans 2.0

Conley makes $32m next season. How are we matching salary in a trade?

Can only be Hayward, right? Which, upon reflection I don't think is wise. I think his value will only increase, and I don't like the idea of us having to give up more compensation in the form of picks to balance that.

Plus, I think Hayward can get close to his All-Star form, especially if he's given more duties without Kyrie around.

[CFAN38]

Just saw this on twitter

https://twitter.com/FletcherWDSU

For the sake of discussion lets say this report is correct and the Cs AD trade proposal is the following

Tatum
Smart
Yabu
#14
Memphis pick (not included in post but I assume it would be included)

Looking past is this trade worth it without Kyrie and the risks in trading for AD and loosing him as a FA. I want to ask the question is this team good enough to warrant this trade.

If this trade happens,

I assume the Cs will look to draft #20 and #22 to bolster cheap depth and not look to move these picks.
For the sake of this exercise I will project them taking two NBA ready prospects Dylan Windler and Matisse Thybulle

I assume Rozier is retained

I assume Baynes takes his player option

That would leave the following projected roster

Starters
Rozier
Brown
Hayward
AD
Horford

Bench
Baynes
Semi
Williams
Windler
Thybulle

In free agency the Cs would need to find some offense off the bench in the form of a PG and a Vet wing for cheap. Morris is a possibility but I think he will get bigger offers then the Cs will offer. At wing maybe a T Ariza, J Green, or J Dudley. At PG the first though is a IT return, if not maybe Lin, Burke or go totally crazy and entertain Rondo (not likely). Without diving deep into cap exceptions lets say they sign IT (who gets back to 75% of his former greatness) and Ariza. Then add a 3rd guard (Wannamaker or Larkin), and a second round pick (Admiral Schofield/Chris Clemons)


Starters
Rozier
Brown
Hayward
AD
Horford

Bench

Ariza
IT
Baynes
Semi
Williams
Wannamaker
Windler
Thybulle
Schofield


How does this roster stack up against the top teams in the east?

Assuming Raptors, 76ers, and Bucks keep similar rosters can this Cs team beat these 3?

A lot will ride on the return to form of Hayward. If he is 80% the player he was in Utah, Brown develops further and Terry returns to his playoff form I think this team hangs with those three teams at the top of the east.

I personally am not looking forward to another season of being held hostage by a star and would probably avoid the entire mess.



Also this would be really interesting for NO.

In the draft they land Zion #1 and I would then look to take Bitgdze at #14

Starters

Holiday
Smart
Tatum
Zion
Bitgdze

that is a well fitting starting 5

[esel1000]

Anyone who doesn’t think DA is trading for AD regardless of Kyrie doesn’t know DA.

He’ll do what he can to get a superstar, and work with that. If he lands AD, he probably has other potential moves lined up that none of us know about.