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Hayward Stays In Utah Or Goes To Miami. Who Do You Target?

Rudy Gay
4 (4.4%)
Danilo Gallinari
12 (13.2%)
Andre Iguodala
0 (0%)
JJ Reddick
1 (1.1%)
Carmelo Anthony (Trade)
11 (12.1%)
Paul Millsap
15 (16.5%)
Taj Gibson
2 (2.2%)
Zach Randolph
3 (3.3%)
Derrick Favors (Trade)
6 (6.6%)
Absolutely NO ONE. Re-sign Some Guys Like Olynyk, Work On Current Extensions, Etc.
29 (31.9%)
I Have Another Target In Mind (Comment Below!)
8 (8.8%)

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Re: Assuming We Whiff On Hayward, What's The "Best" Fallback Option?
« Reply #60 on: July 01, 2017, 04:33:52 PM »

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I'll go with Gallo. He's an elite offensive weapon, and we know Danny has had interest in the past.

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Celtics have talked to other free agents, most notably including Danilo Gallinari, though a meeting has not been set up yet.

https://twitter.com/Murf56/status/881249226340130816
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Re: Assuming We Whiff On Hayward, What's The "Best" Fallback Option?
« Reply #61 on: July 01, 2017, 04:41:26 PM »

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Favors is my pick in this list. It's a high risk-high reward move because if he's healthy he'd be a perfect fit.

But if I want to go after a big who is high risk-high reward then we might as well pursue Blake Griffin.

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Re: Assuming We Whiff On Hayward, What's The "Best" Fallback Option?
« Reply #62 on: July 01, 2017, 04:43:10 PM »

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Favors is my pick in this list. It's a high risk-high reward move because if he's healthy he'd be a perfect fit.

But if I want to go after a big who is high risk-high reward then we might as well pursue Blake Griffin.

Is it really high-risk? Hard to imagine he'd be all that expensive.
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Re: Assuming We Whiff On Hayward, What's The "Best" Fallback Option?
« Reply #63 on: July 01, 2017, 04:58:15 PM »

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Favors is my pick in this list. It's a high risk-high reward move because if he's healthy he'd be a perfect fit.

But if I want to go after a big who is high risk-high reward then we might as well pursue Blake Griffin.

Is it really high-risk? Hard to imagine he'd be all that expensive.

Medium risk.

The two seasons before the last one he was a 16/8 player who is a decent shot blocker. He still needs a decent 15 footer and to better understand team defensive concepts. But he's also just turning 26. He's going into the last year of a very reasonable contract $12m). I think they'd ask for the LAL pick. I'd do that, plus the BOS and LAC picks if I could get their #1 in 2018 - and then hopefully sign Hayward and then Utah would be gutted and their pick could actually be more valuable. :)
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« Reply #64 on: July 01, 2017, 05:04:38 PM »

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I'll go with Gallo. He's an elite offensive weapon, and we know Danny has had interest in the past.

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Celtics have talked to other free agents, most notably including Danilo Gallinari, though a meeting has not been set up yet.

https://twitter.com/Murf56/status/881249226340130816

What's the point? Why not just save cap room and give those minutes to one of the young wings?
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Re: Assuming We Whiff On Hayward, What's The "Best" Fallback Option?
« Reply #65 on: July 01, 2017, 05:20:59 PM »

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I'll go with Gallo. He's an elite offensive weapon, and we know Danny has had interest in the past.

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Celtics have talked to other free agents, most notably including Danilo Gallinari, though a meeting has not been set up yet.

https://twitter.com/Murf56/status/881249226340130816

What's the point? Why not just save cap room and give those minutes to one of the young wings?

My guess is that Brad would play Gallo predominantly as a big, so he probably wouldn't be taking that many minutes from the young guys.
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Re: Assuming We Whiff On Hayward, What's The "Best" Fallback Option?
« Reply #66 on: July 01, 2017, 09:15:59 PM »

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Gallinari is ASKING for a "Chandler Parsons" type contract....

http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/news/nba-free-agency-danilo-gallinari-denver-nuggets-chandler-parsons-clippers-rockets-celtics/q5c56fyjsqj1hwiutoon5y92

Unless his price actually came down, I'm not that high on getting him as a "fallback" anymore.

Also, a 4 year deal for him is risky, and he will probably get one from some team. Pass.
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Re: Assuming We Whiff On Hayward, What's The "Best" Fallback Option?
« Reply #67 on: July 01, 2017, 11:09:17 PM »

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It seems like Gallinari is their "fallback" option, OR Okafor in a CHEAP trade.

Ainge does seem to love those guys and there have been rumors on both FOR A WHILE now (past few years as well).

What do you guys think?
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Re: Assuming We Whiff On Hayward, What's The "Best" Fallback Option?
« Reply #68 on: July 01, 2017, 11:14:07 PM »

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Trading Thomas is what I would do and build around the young guys
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Re: Assuming We Whiff On Hayward, What's The "Best" Fallback Option?
« Reply #69 on: July 02, 2017, 11:27:09 PM »

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GREAT... There goes Millsap. Ugh.

I'll feel a lot better if we land Hayward, but if not...
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Re: Assuming We Whiff On Hayward, What's The "Best" Fallback Option?
« Reply #70 on: July 02, 2017, 11:34:07 PM »

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Trading Thomas is what I would do and build around the young guys

I assume you mean you would tank (i.e., trade away IT, Horford, etc.), correct?

Fortunately, we aren't the 76ers.  Any word on Embiid's spine? 
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Re: Assuming We Whiff On Hayward, What's The "Best" Fallback Option?
« Reply #71 on: July 02, 2017, 11:59:17 PM »

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Honestly I think resigning Ko might be it. Fill out the roster with your picks. Roster would have a massive issue at the four and five

Re: Assuming We Whiff On Hayward, What's The "Best" Fallback Option?
« Reply #72 on: July 03, 2017, 12:10:38 AM »

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If we miss on Hayward, let's just blow it up.

Seriously. We never used our assets to help IT and Horford to get a team that can win now, and Hayward should be that piece (whether he's enough or not is another story, but we can agree that he's the help coming in). If we miss out on him, there's no other marquee Free Agent available.

And our cap space won't be there next year with our pending extensions, unless we don't extend anyone.

If we miss out on him, hand the reigns to the young guys. Keep hoarding assets by trading Al and IT. Play the youth. Invest in the draft. Better than that trying to plug in guys just for the sake of using our cap space, something we passed on trading Butler and Boogie for just to have. We had the chance to have a championship contending team and we passed on it. If we whiff this, let's just go back to tanking.

Build thru the draft, right? Then let's freaking do it.

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Re: Assuming We Whiff On Hayward, What's The "Best" Fallback Option?
« Reply #73 on: July 03, 2017, 12:13:46 AM »

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What if we DO get Hayward.  Can we do a couple of sign and trades to upgrade our front court?

Sign KO and trade him to Utah for Favors? Are we allowed to attach draft picks in a trade like that? Do we have to renounce KO to sign Hayward?  I'm sure that's been answered 47 times, sorry I'm advance.

Trade Crowder/Bradley for Galo - Have Denver sign him and trade him to us?

IT. Rozier
Smart. Brown
Hayward. Tatum
Galo. Favors
Horford. (Favors).  Zizic

We get a lot taller this way. I don't know why we keep hearing about Galo being a fallback guy-

Werent we supposed to be trying to go after TWO guys?  Why not Hayward AND Galo?


Re: Assuming We Whiff On Hayward, What's The "Best" Fallback Option?
« Reply #74 on: July 03, 2017, 03:09:26 AM »

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Trading Thomas is what I would do and build around the young guys

If we fail to land Gordon Hayward i know this sounds crazy but here this is not gonna give the Celtics a good look as far as Free Agents go and may send us back to the stone ages a bit just until our young guys mature and develop. And by no means do i want to do this at all but if we fail to get Gordon Hayward we almost have to reset the rebuild button.

Ok here it goes, n no matter how crazy this sounds, this could get us alot more then where we'd be if we miss out on Hayward.

Once we signed Al Horford and missed on KD, we immediately jumped into, win now mode. Isaiah Thomas becoming the player he became was a suprise and delight but if we miss on Gordon and trade IT, we gotta package IT along with Al Horford and Avery Bradley, maybe even throw Crowder in the deal. Thats an option to get a few promising potential future stars or another option is to do two differnt trades say IT n Bradley to one team for so n so then Crowder and Horford to another team for such n such.

Its insane i know but if ur gonna trade IT u pretty much gotta throw in the towel and sell off anyone whos considered a win now philosophy and keep building around Tatum, Jaylen Brown, Semi, Zizic, and Rozier core. Get young potential talent or get high picks for the core n dont sell yourself short.

Im not a fan of this by the way. And IMO, Hayward is absolutely on his way to Boston without a doubt. He would be making the best business decision by coming to the East with the West so strong. Cavs are the only road block we got and they wont last forever. With them losing out on Paul George and question marks all over the place in Cleveland with Love and Kyrie unhappy that teams one year from imploding. Gordon would be very smart to choose Boston as his long term destination and play alongside Isaiah Thomas, Avery Bradley, Al Horford, and a mix of future assets on that bench. The Boston Celtics are on the Verge of becoming a powerhouse in the East once Cleveland implodes.