Paul George Traded To OKC

[Eja117]

People seem to think that 21mill a year in this league gets you an all star or something

yeah that is like 60% of the 10 year max and is 4 million less than the under 7 year max

There won't be a single all star (certainly not one in their mid 20s) signing for anything close to 21mill this year.

I suppose Teague just signed for like 18. Maybe that's as close as you get.

[jpotter33]

Silver lining: there's a real chance we get two top-5 picks next year.

Yeah, that is being a bit overlooked now. Especially in a loaded West, I still see them as a bottom-3 team or so in the league.

They won't be good. There are obviously a few more tankers in the East now, but the Lakers definitely won't be good.

Hell, by virtue of them playing in the East they'll win more games, though lol Brooklyn, Orlando,  Chicago, and Indiana will all play each other 3-4 times. Hell, Philly should be able to make the playoffs next year pretty easily now, as long as they're healthy.

[Eja117]

DA on NBA TV said this was most likely the Pacers saying were not trading him to Boston where they build a potential dynasty we want him outta here. Let's trade him somewhere out west.

Or, OKC made a better offer than Danny was willing to.

Oladipo + Sabonis > Crowder + late firsts

As has been pointed out, Oladipo is owed $84 million over the next four years.  That's 20% of the salary cap.  What was that about throwing away millions?

Mike

Yeah that Oladipo contract is scary.  I in no way think Indiana did themselves any favors here by not waiting and let things play out with Boston.  Roy - we have no idea what the last offer was from Indy or if they even wanted to deal with us.   The pacers got crap return for an all-star.  That is hardly a great deal for them.

That's market value. What do you think Avery Bradley is going to get when he hits free agency?  How is this different than trading them Avery and them having to cash out for him in a year? At least Victor is younger and healthier.

You seriously thing Oladipo is a good deal at $21 mil?  Bradley is better player to me.  If our choice here in Boston today (out of our current salary cap context) was keep Bradley at 24mil and VO at 21 mil, I take Bradley hands down.

I'd take VO hands down. Good defender. Better scorer. Far younger.

Oladipo is one year younger than Bradley.

btw.....if you had Bradley for 3 more years..(but make him almost two years younger...just wave a magic want at him)..would you offer Bradley and Sabonis (on a rookie deal) for one year of PG? Because I wouldn't.

On a 4/84 contract? In a heartbeat.

Ok, but that's why my team would be better than yours. Unless your plan is to tank, but not even this year.

Because you would blow your entire cap on 5 players of Avery Bradley's caliber? Sounds like a surefire championship to me.

Better than being the Kings like your team

[jpotter33]

https://twitter.com/SteveBHoop/status/880987659597950976?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fbleacherreport.com%2Fboston-celtics

Let's just say the entire league seems stunned that Indiana didn't go for what the Celtics were offering for Paul George... Story up soon.

Ahh, Danny's own propaganda puppet is already at work, I see!

[Eja117]

OKC is stupid and desperate.

Yeah, it's so dumb to get out of that Oladipo contract while also trying to entice Westbrook to sign an extension by getting him an All-Star to help win now.

P.S. people are acting as though Presti wouldn't and couldn't trade PG (and/or Westbrook) at the trade deadline if he thinks it's necessary.

Why are people ignoring how bad that Oladipo deal is?

I'm not haha.  The deal was a complete win for OKC.  Indiana pulled the string too soon.  They could have had that same deal in 3 days from now, and had the chance to explore other options, including boston.

The idea that Oladipo + Sabonis is a better deal than even Crowder and Bradley is just crazy to me.

Poll 29 GM's (not including Pritchard the dimwit) and I'd bet my life on 25 of them taking Crowder over Oladipo when contracts are considered. Like, do people not realize that Oladipo is old or something? Maybe they don't because he was drafted so recently, but he's only a year younger than Crowder.

Two years younger.

Crowder is a 14/6/2 guys on 46/40/81 shooting splits, making $6.7, $7.3 and $7.8 million respectively for the next 3 yeras.

Oladipo is 16/4/2 on 44/36/75, and he costs $21 million for the next four.

Is being two years younger really that big of a difference?

So next year when VO is the man in Indiana and Crowder can't get off the bench what do you suppose the stats will be then?

The man in Indiana?

He can't even be the man in freaking Orlando. What evidence do we have that he can be THAT guy?

Great example. Orlando. They traded him. Did they take a step forward this year? What did they do? Draft Hezonia?

[liam]

People seem to think that 21mill a year in this league gets you an all star or something

yeah that is like 60% of the 10 year max and is 4 million less than the under 7 year max

There won't be a single all star (certainly not one in their mid 20s) signing for anything close to 21mill this year.

I suppose Teague just signed for like 18. Maybe that's as close as you get.

Oladipo isn't making an All Star team...

[Eja117]

People seem to think that 21mill a year in this league gets you an all star or something

yeah that is like 60% of the 10 year max and is 4 million less than the under 7 year max

There won't be a single all star (certainly not one in their mid 20s) signing for anything close to 21mill this year.

I suppose Teague just signed for like 18. Maybe that's as close as you get.

Oladipo isn't making an All Star team...

Neither is Crowder or Bradley. And a year from now when PG makes the all star team (probably) it will be for the Lakers.

[max215]

People seem to think that 21mill a year in this league gets you an all star or something

yeah that is like 60% of the 10 year max and is 4 million less than the under 7 year max

There won't be a single all star (certainly not one in their mid 20s) signing for anything close to 21mill this year.

I suppose Teague just signed for like 18. Maybe that's as close as you get.

Do you understand how the max structure works in terms of escalating with experience? Look at the salaries of young all-stars/borderline all-stars. Start with studs like Giannis and CJ McCollum.

[colincb]

Just up from the BG

For much of the past year, the Celtics had been making a push toward acquiring Pacers forward Paul George. As recently as Friday, Boston still believed it was in the mix to acquire the All-Star.

But on Friday night, the Pacers sent George to the Oklahoma City Thunder in exchange for guard Victor Oladipo and forward Domantas Sabonis in a deal that sent shockwaves through the NBA for the seemingly paltry return Indiana received.

According to a league source, the Celtics had made several attempts to acquire George this season, including one offer prior to the February trade deadline that could have come at a massive cost.

The Celtics at that time offered a package centered on the 2017 first-round pick they were to receive from the Nets, as well as three other future first-round choices, a source said. That Nets pick, of course, ultimately turned into the No. 1 overall selection.

Even though George was slated to become a free agent after next season, it was believed that Boston’s reasoning at the time was that it would essentially get two years of George in the playoffs, and that he would become ingrained in the winning culture and hopefully re-sign.

But the deadline came and went with no deal, and the talks were resuscitated prior to the NBA Draft. At that time, a source said, Boston offered the Pacers three starters and two first-round picks, although the offer did not include the pick Boston will receive from the Nets next year, or the future first-round pick they received when they sent the top pick this year to the 76ers.

Eventually, a league source said, that deal evolved to become three future first-round picks and two Celtics starters. But it turned out that was not enough, either. In the end, George ended up with Oklahoma City, and the Celtics were left to turn their focus toward their pursuit of the free agent forward, Gordon Hayward.

Tough to believe.

[Eja117]

People seem to think that 21mill a year in this league gets you an all star or something

yeah that is like 60% of the 10 year max and is 4 million less than the under 7 year max

There won't be a single all star (certainly not one in their mid 20s) signing for anything close to 21mill this year.

I suppose Teague just signed for like 18. Maybe that's as close as you get.

Do you understand how the max structure works in terms of escalating with experience? Look at the salaries of young all-stars/borderline all-stars. Start with studs like Giannis and CJ McCollum.

CJ is making way more than VO and isn't an all star.  Giannis also makes significantly more.

Do you think you can go out and sign a Giannis or trade for one? Is that what you think was going to happen here? You think a year of PG was going to get you Giannis or they were going to draft a Giannis or a CJ McCollum? And that they'd wait for years to give them a contract like those guys?

[blink]

https://twitter.com/SteveBHoop/status/880987659597950976?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fbleacherreport.com%2Fboston-celtics

Let's just say the entire league seems stunned that Indiana didn't go for what the Celtics were offering for Paul George... Story up soon.

Ahh, Danny's own propaganda puppet is already at work, I see!

hahaha nice to see some humor in all these hang DA posts.  TP for you sir!

[Ilikesports17]

OKC is stupid and desperate.

Yeah, it's so dumb to get out of that Oladipo contract while also trying to entice Westbrook to sign an extension by getting him an All-Star to help win now.

P.S. people are acting as though Presti wouldn't and couldn't trade PG (and/or Westbrook) at the trade deadline if he thinks it's necessary.

Why are people ignoring how bad that Oladipo deal is?

I'm not haha.  The deal was a complete win for OKC.  Indiana pulled the string too soon.  They could have had that same deal in 3 days from now, and had the chance to explore other options, including boston.

The idea that Oladipo + Sabonis is a better deal than even Crowder and Bradley is just crazy to me.

Poll 29 GM's (not including Pritchard the dimwit) and I'd bet my life on 25 of them taking Crowder over Oladipo when contracts are considered. Like, do people not realize that Oladipo is old or something? Maybe they don't because he was drafted so recently, but he's only a year younger than Crowder.

Two years younger.

Crowder is a 14/6/2 guys on 46/40/81 shooting splits, making $6.7, $7.3 and $7.8 million respectively for the next 3 yeras.

Oladipo is 16/4/2 on 44/36/75, and he costs $21 million for the next four.

Is being two years younger really that big of a difference?

So next year when VO is the man in Indiana and Crowder can't get off the bench what do you suppose the stats will be then?

The man in Indiana?

He can't even be the man in freaking Orlando. What evidence do we have that he can be THAT guy?

Great example. Orlando. They traded him. Did they take a step forward this year? What did they do? Draft Hezonia?

Nah, they got Isaac.

[max215]

People seem to think that 21mill a year in this league gets you an all star or something

yeah that is like 60% of the 10 year max and is 4 million less than the under 7 year max

There won't be a single all star (certainly not one in their mid 20s) signing for anything close to 21mill this year.

I suppose Teague just signed for like 18. Maybe that's as close as you get.

Do you understand how the max structure works in terms of escalating with experience? Look at the salaries of young all-stars/borderline all-stars. Start with studs like Giannis and CJ McCollum.

CJ is making way more than VO and isn't an all star.  Giannis also makes significantly more.

Do you think you can go out and sign a Giannis or trade for one? Is that what you think was going to happen here? You think a year of PG was going to get you Giannis or they were going to draft a Giannis or a CJ McCollum? And that they'd wait for years to give them a contract like those guys?

Nice try with the straw man. Per year, Giannis makes $4M more than Oladipo, CJ $5.5M more. We're talking a 4-6% difference in terms of the cap. That's negligible. The fact is that young stars are capped; they cannot make a ton of money. Oladipo makes almost as much as possible for a player his age.

[Smitty77]

People seem to think that 21mill a year in this league gets you an all star or something

yeah that is like 60% of the 10 year max and is 4 million less than the under 7 year max

There won't be a single all star (certainly not one in their mid 20s) signing for anything close to 21mill this year.

I suppose Teague just signed for like 18. Maybe that's as close as you get.

Oladipo isn't making an All Star team...

Neither is Crowder or Bradley. And a year from now when PG makes the all star team (probably) it will be for the Lakers.

I think that making 2nd team All-NBA Defense is equal to making the All-Star Team and making the 1st team All-NBA Defense is better than making the All-Star Team.  Do NOT underestimate what AB has ALREADY accomplished (TWICE).

Smitty77

[Eja117]

People seem to think that 21mill a year in this league gets you an all star or something

yeah that is like 60% of the 10 year max and is 4 million less than the under 7 year max

There won't be a single all star (certainly not one in their mid 20s) signing for anything close to 21mill this year.

I suppose Teague just signed for like 18. Maybe that's as close as you get.

Oladipo isn't making an All Star team...

Neither is Crowder or Bradley. And a year from now when PG makes the all star team (probably) it will be for the Lakers.

I think that making 2nd team All-NBA Defense is equal to making the All-Star Team and making the 1st team All-NBA Defense is better than making the All-Star Team.  Do NOT underestimate what AB has ALREADY accomplished (TWICE).

Smitty77

I can't possibly disagree with that more. Offense wins championships in the NBA