Paul George Traded To OKC

[saltlover]

I wonder why the Pacers wouldn't wait to see what happened with Hayward first?

Almost like a spite trade.

Why should they? To repeatedly get offered Crowder and a non-lottery pick?

Really? Because there would be more pressure on Ainge to get the superteam completed if Hayward had signed here first.
The cap plan for Boston was to sign Hayward first, then trade for PG.
Why not wait 2 days? OKC isn't renegging a deal where they dump Oladipo's 21 million contract and all they have to include is Sabonis.

Horrible trade for the Pacers.

What stopped Danny from making a contingent offer? If he was serious about George, he would have offered more than Crowder and non-lotto picks.

Oladipo is better than Crowder. It's not irrational to prefer Sabonis over the Celtics or Clippers pick. If Danny wanted George, he should have been willing to part with a legit asset.

He probably had a contingent offer.  Perhaps Pritchard felt that the chances of that contingency coming to pass weren't high enough to wait it out.

That said, I'd take Crowder and his contract over Oladipo and his new deal, personally.

[jambr380]

Ainge offered them the first pick in the draft and three other firsts at the deadline apparently.  Indiana fans must want to kill themselves

This is awesome - tp!

[Roy H.]

OKC is stupid and desperate.

Yeah, it's so dumb to get out of that Oladipo contract while also trying to entice Westbrook to sign an extension by getting him an All-Star to help win now.

P.S. people are acting as though Presti wouldn't and couldn't trade PG (and/or Westbrook) at the trade deadline if he thinks it's necessary.

Why are people ignoring how bad that Oladipo deal is?

I'm not haha.  The deal was a complete win for OKC.  Indiana pulled the string too soon.  They could have had that same deal in 3 days from now, and had the chance to explore other options, including boston.

The idea that Oladipo + Sabonis is a better deal than even Crowder and Bradley is just crazy to me.

Poll 29 GM's (not including Pritchard the dimwit) and I'd bet my life on 25 of them taking Crowder over Oladipo when contracts are considered. Like, do people not realize that Oladipo is old or something? Maybe they don't because he was drafted so recently, but he's only a year younger than Crowder.

Two years younger.

[TheTruthFot18]

Totally lame... but you can't blame Ainge. I agree this almost seems like a 'spite' trade against the Cs.

Hopefully we still get Hayward, or at least Griffin, and we can be happy that George didn't go to the Lakers and screw up that pick.

There are still other options out there with AB, Crowder, and picks...hopefully Ainge can find a sane gm to deal with (and for more years than George).

Might want to google Blake Griffin.

[Eja117]

DA on NBA TV said this was most likely the Pacers saying were not trading him to Boston where they build a potential dynasty we want him outta here. Let's trade him somewhere out west.

Or, OKC made a better offer than Danny was willing to.

Oladipo + Sabonis > Crowder + late firsts

As has been pointed out, Oladipo is owed $84 million over the next four years.  That's 20% of the salary cap.  What was that about throwing away millions?

Mike

Yeah that Oladipo contract is scary.  I in no way think Indiana did themselves any favors here by not waiting and let things play out with Boston.  Roy - we have no idea what the last offer was from Indy or if they even wanted to deal with us.   The pacers got crap return for an all-star.  That is hardly a great deal for them.

That's market value. What do you think Avery Bradley is going to get when he hits free agency?  How is this different than trading them Avery and them having to cash out for him in a year? At least Victor is younger and healthier.

You seriously thing Oladipo is a good deal at $21 mil?  Bradley is better player to me.  If our choice here in Boston today (out of our current salary cap context) was keep Bradley at 24mil and VO at 21 mil, I take Bradley hands down.

I'd take VO hands down. Good defender. Better scorer. Far younger.

[jpotter33]

Ainge offered them the first pick in the draft and three other firsts at the deadline apparently.  Indiana fans must want to kill themselves

No, it was widely reported that there were protections on that offered first pick, so they wouldn't have got it this year. More than likely they would've got next year's Brooklyn pick.

[SparzWizard]

I went to Indy Cornrows...and some of them they love Victor Oladipo over the overrated Jae Crowder and Avery Bradley plus the additional picks they could have received...

 

[Eja117]

OKC is stupid and desperate.

Yeah, it's so dumb to get out of that Oladipo contract while also trying to entice Westbrook to sign an extension by getting him an All-Star to help win now.

P.S. people are acting as though Presti wouldn't and couldn't trade PG (and/or Westbrook) at the trade deadline if he thinks it's necessary.

Why are people ignoring how bad that Oladipo deal is?

Because he's a good young player?  I mean if you like Marcus Smart you're gonna offer to have VO's love child.

[max215]

DA on NBA TV said this was most likely the Pacers saying were not trading him to Boston where they build a potential dynasty we want him outta here. Let's trade him somewhere out west.

Or, OKC made a better offer than Danny was willing to.

Oladipo + Sabonis > Crowder + late firsts

As has been pointed out, Oladipo is owed $84 million over the next four years.  That's 20% of the salary cap.  What was that about throwing away millions?

Mike

Yeah that Oladipo contract is scary.  I in no way think Indiana did themselves any favors here by not waiting and let things play out with Boston.  Roy - we have no idea what the last offer was from Indy or if they even wanted to deal with us.   The pacers got crap return for an all-star.  That is hardly a great deal for them.

That's market value. What do you think Avery Bradley is going to get when he hits free agency?  How is this different than trading them Avery and them having to cash out for him in a year? At least Victor is younger and healthier.

You seriously thing Oladipo is a good deal at $21 mil?  Bradley is better player to me.  If our choice here in Boston today (out of our current salary cap context) was keep Bradley at 24mil and VO at 21 mil, I take Bradley hands down.

I'd take VO hands down. Good defender. Better scorer. Far younger.

Oladipo is one year younger than Bradley.

[Eja117]

DA on NBA TV said this was most likely the Pacers saying were not trading him to Boston where they build a potential dynasty we want him outta here. Let's trade him somewhere out west.

Or, OKC made a better offer than Danny was willing to.

Oladipo + Sabonis > Crowder + late firsts

As has been pointed out, Oladipo is owed $84 million over the next four years.  That's 20% of the salary cap.  What was that about throwing away millions?

Mike

Yeah that Oladipo contract is scary.  I in no way think Indiana did themselves any favors here by not waiting and let things play out with Boston.  Roy - we have no idea what the last offer was from Indy or if they even wanted to deal with us.   The pacers got crap return for an all-star.  That is hardly a great deal for them.

That's market value. What do you think Avery Bradley is going to get when he hits free agency?  How is this different than trading them Avery and them having to cash out for him in a year? At least Victor is younger and healthier.

You seriously thing Oladipo is a good deal at $21 mil?  Bradley is better player to me.  If our choice here in Boston today (out of our current salary cap context) was keep Bradley at 24mil and VO at 21 mil, I take Bradley hands down.

I'd take VO hands down. Good defender. Better scorer. Far younger.

Oladipo is one year younger than Bradley.

More like a year and a half with a lot less mileage and less injuries.

[Roy H.]

I wonder what the rush to move George was. Wouldn't continuing to hold out for the best deal make sense? Even if Pritchard waited until the deadline when someone would need a player to put them over the top, Pritchard would have had to have gotten a better deal than what he did.

Why the rush? Wouldn't a contigency deal with Ainge where he waited until after Hayward made his decision make more sense than taking what he did? If Boston landed Hayward they most likely would have included the Lakers pick...I hope...to ensure a run at a title in 2018.

Don't get the timing of the trade. Why the rush? Does anyone have any Indy info on why George had to be traded so soon? I wonder if offers from other teams had contingency deadlines, like, do this before free agency or else the deal is off the table.

I hate DMC but he went for something Danny could have beaten. Same for Butler and now George too. The lack of movement on Ainge's oart is starting to p!ss me off.

If somebody tells you for weeks that their best offer is on the table (Crowder plus crappy firsts), at some point it's fair to believe him.

[Eja117]

DA on NBA TV said this was most likely the Pacers saying were not trading him to Boston where they build a potential dynasty we want him outta here. Let's trade him somewhere out west.

Or, OKC made a better offer than Danny was willing to.

Oladipo + Sabonis > Crowder + late firsts

As has been pointed out, Oladipo is owed $84 million over the next four years.  That's 20% of the salary cap.  What was that about throwing away millions?

Mike

Yeah that Oladipo contract is scary.  I in no way think Indiana did themselves any favors here by not waiting and let things play out with Boston.  Roy - we have no idea what the last offer was from Indy or if they even wanted to deal with us.   The pacers got crap return for an all-star.  That is hardly a great deal for them.

That's market value. What do you think Avery Bradley is going to get when he hits free agency?  How is this different than trading them Avery and them having to cash out for him in a year? At least Victor is younger and healthier.

You seriously thing Oladipo is a good deal at $21 mil?  Bradley is better player to me.  If our choice here in Boston today (out of our current salary cap context) was keep Bradley at 24mil and VO at 21 mil, I take Bradley hands down.

I'd take VO hands down. Good defender. Better scorer. Far younger.

Oladipo is one year younger than Bradley.

btw.....if you had Bradley for 3 more years..(but make him almost two years younger...just wave a magic want at him)..would you offer Bradley and Sabonis (on a rookie deal) for one year of PG? Because I wouldn't.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

OKC is stupid and desperate.

Yeah, it's so dumb to get out of that Oladipo contract while also trying to entice Westbrook to sign an extension by getting him an All-Star to help win now.

P.S. people are acting as though Presti wouldn't and couldn't trade PG (and/or Westbrook) at the trade deadline if he thinks it's necessary.

Why are people ignoring how bad that Oladipo deal is?

I'm not haha.  The deal was a complete win for OKC.  Indiana pulled the string too soon.  They could have had that same deal in 3 days from now, and had the chance to explore other options, including boston.

The idea that Oladipo + Sabonis is a better deal than even Crowder and Bradley is just crazy to me.

Poll 29 GM's (not including Pritchard the dimwit) and I'd bet my life on 25 of them taking Crowder over Oladipo when contracts are considered. Like, do people not realize that Oladipo is old or something? Maybe they don't because he was drafted so recently, but he's only a year younger than Crowder.

Two years younger.

Crowder is a 14/6/2 guys on 46/40/81 shooting splits, making $6.7, $7.3 and $7.8 million respectively for the next 3 yeras.

Oladipo is 16/4/2 on 44/36/75, and he costs $21 million for the next four.

Is being two years younger really that big of a difference?

[colincb]

OKC is stupid and desperate.

Yeah, it's so dumb to get out of that Oladipo contract while also trying to entice Westbrook to sign an extension by getting him an All-Star to help win now.

P.S. people are acting as though Presti wouldn't and couldn't trade PG (and/or Westbrook) at the trade deadline if he thinks it's necessary.

Why are people ignoring how bad that Oladipo deal is?

I'm not haha.  The deal was a complete win for OKC.  Indiana pulled the string too soon.  They could have had that same deal in 3 days from now, and had the chance to explore other options, including boston.

The idea that Oladipo + Sabonis is a better deal than even Crowder and Bradley is just crazy to me.

Poll 29 GM's (not including Pritchard the dimwit) and I'd bet my life on 25 of them taking Crowder over Oladipo when contracts are considered. Like, do people not realize that Oladipo is old or something? Maybe they don't because he was drafted so recently, but he's only a year younger than Crowder.

Two years younger.

PER 13.6
Defensive rating 115 per 100 possessions
Negative defensive box+/-
No votes for all defense.

He's got a bad contract.

[max215]

Silver lining: there's a real chance we get two top-5 picks next year.