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Re: Saric and the 3rd for Fultz?
« Reply #105 on: June 10, 2017, 09:15:07 PM »

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Why does anyone think that saris would be better than olynyc in a playoff team?

Because he would be. I like KO, but the dude tries to play like a PG in a Awkward Centers body. Saric is an athletic PF, shoots well from the out side, can go to the hoop, and plays good D.

He's also on the beginning of a rookie contract which frees up some money. 

Re: Saric and the 3rd for Fultz?
« Reply #106 on: June 10, 2017, 09:23:15 PM »

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Why does anyone think that saris would be better than olynyc in a playoff team?

Because he would be. I like KO, but the dude tries to play like a PG in a Awkward Centers body. Saric is an athletic PF, shoots well from the out side, can go to the hoop, and plays good D.

He's also on the beginning of a rookie contract which frees up some money.
KO shoots better from the outside, is just as good going to the hoop and is probably a better defender right now.

KO is also at least as good as a passer.

Re: Saric and the 3rd for Fultz?
« Reply #107 on: June 10, 2017, 09:56:30 PM »

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Neither of these guys are going to make 1st team all NBA defense team. 

If Ainge is trading down, and I doubt it, then he wants Jackson and is getting Saric for the bench.

Re: Saric and the 3rd for Fultz?
« Reply #108 on: June 10, 2017, 10:02:41 PM »

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Neither of these guys are going to make 1st team all NBA defense team. 

If Ainge is trading down, and I doubt it, then he wants Jackson and is getting Saric for the bench.

Which is fine, it's a good move, Jackson is good, and Saric at worst will be a good bench PF. I think Philly is going to have to give up LA's 2018 pick though. That way if the Nets pick is 4-7, there is a chance DA can combined the two picks into at least the third pick.

Re: Saric and the 3rd for Fultz?
« Reply #109 on: June 10, 2017, 10:36:40 PM »

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Why does anyone think that saris would be better than olynyc in a playoff team?

Because he would be. I like KO, but the dude tries to play like a PG in a Awkward Centers body. Saric is an athletic PF, shoots well from the out side, can go to the hoop, and plays good D.

He's also on the beginning of a rookie contract which frees up some money.
KO shoots better from the outside, is just as good going to the hoop and is probably a better defender right now.

KO is also at least as good as a passer.

Saric is a more confident shooter. He is also a better ball handler and passer than KO.
 

Re: Saric and the 3rd for Fultz?
« Reply #110 on: June 10, 2017, 10:43:48 PM »

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Why does anyone think that saris would be better than olynyc in a playoff team?

Because he would be. I like KO, but the dude tries to play like a PG in a Awkward Centers body. Saric is an athletic PF, shoots well from the out side, can go to the hoop, and plays good D.

He's also on the beginning of a rookie contract which frees up some money.
KO shoots better from the outside, is just as good going to the hoop and is probably a better defender right now.

KO is also at least as good as a passer.

Saric is a more confident shooter. He is also a better ball handler and passer than KO.
 
Marcus Smart is a confident shooter.  It doesn't really matter.  KO is a better shooter than Saric.

Re: Saric and the 3rd for Fultz?
« Reply #111 on: June 10, 2017, 10:48:24 PM »

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Why does anyone think that saris would be better than olynyc in a playoff team?

Because he would be. I like KO, but the dude tries to play like a PG in a Awkward Centers body. Saric is an athletic PF, shoots well from the out side, can go to the hoop, and plays good D.

He's also on the beginning of a rookie contract which frees up some money.
KO shoots better from the outside, is just as good going to the hoop and is probably a better defender right now.

KO is also at least as good as a passer.

Saric is a more confident shooter. He is also a better ball handler and passer than KO.
 
Marcus Smart is a confident shooter.  It doesn't really matter.  KO is a better shooter than Saric.

 I'm talking about confidence and ability to make the 3...not what Smart does

Re: Saric and the 3rd for Fultz?
« Reply #112 on: June 10, 2017, 10:52:32 PM »

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-Only highlights so it doesn't show the whole picture (good and bad)...but some of the 3s made by Saric were late in games or with a defender close to him. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwjbkXPfpTI

-Saric handles and passing is at a very high level for a player his height. Better than KO for sure
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXtZIL15Fcc
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Re: Saric and the 3rd for Fultz?
« Reply #113 on: June 10, 2017, 10:58:34 PM »

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Why does anyone think that saris would be better than olynyc in a playoff team?

Because he would be. I like KO, but the dude tries to play like a PG in a Awkward Centers body. Saric is an athletic PF, shoots well from the out side, can go to the hoop, and plays good D.

He's also on the beginning of a rookie contract which frees up some money.
KO shoots better from the outside, is just as good going to the hoop and is probably a better defender right now.

KO is also at least as good as a passer.

Saric is a more confident shooter. He is also a better ball handler and passer than KO.
 
Marcus Smart is a confident shooter.  It doesn't really matter.  KO is a better shooter than Saric.

He's not lights out better than KO. And he has a smoother offensive game. And he's probably going to cost you at least 8mill less a year for the next couple seasons. This is more a business move than basketball move. Might have to move from KO for Hayward, and if you get Saric in a move with the 3rd pick, it's the right move.

You could even flip the 3rd and Crowder for Butler. That would take Miami out of the Hayward game. 

Re: Saric and the 3rd for Fultz?
« Reply #114 on: June 10, 2017, 11:05:29 PM »

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Why does anyone think that saris would be better than olynyc in a playoff team?

Because he would be. I like KO, but the dude tries to play like a PG in a Awkward Centers body. Saric is an athletic PF, shoots well from the out side, can go to the hoop, and plays good D.

He's also on the beginning of a rookie contract which frees up some money.
KO shoots better from the outside, is just as good going to the hoop and is probably a better defender right now.

KO is also at least as good as a passer.

Saric is a more confident shooter. He is also a better ball handler and passer than KO.
 
Marcus Smart is a confident shooter.  It doesn't really matter.  KO is a better shooter than Saric.

He's not lights out better than KO. And he has a smoother offensive game. And he's probably going to cost you at least 8mill less a year for the next couple seasons. This is more a business move than basketball move. Might have to move from KO for Hayward, and if you get Saric in a move with the 3rd pick, it's the right move.

You could even flip the 3rd and Crowder for Butler. That would take Miami out of the Hayward game.

Saric? no ... he is still under rookie contract until 2019/2020

Re: Saric and the 3rd for Fultz?
« Reply #115 on: June 10, 2017, 11:17:10 PM »

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Why does anyone think that saris would be better than olynyc in a playoff team?

Because he would be. I like KO, but the dude tries to play like a PG in a Awkward Centers body. Saric is an athletic PF, shoots well from the out side, can go to the hoop, and plays good D.

He's also on the beginning of a rookie contract which frees up some money.
KO shoots better from the outside, is just as good going to the hoop and is probably a better defender right now.

KO is also at least as good as a passer.

Saric is a more confident shooter. He is also a better ball handler and passer than KO.
 
Marcus Smart is a confident shooter.  It doesn't really matter.  KO is a better shooter than Saric.

He's not lights out better than KO. And he has a smoother offensive game. And he's probably going to cost you at least 8mill less a year for the next couple seasons. This is more a business move than basketball move. Might have to move from KO for Hayward, and if you get Saric in a move with the 3rd pick, it's the right move.

You could even flip the 3rd and Crowder for Butler. That would take Miami out of the Hayward game.

Saric? no ... he is still under rookie contract until 2019/2020
reread the bolded. He is saying Saric will be cheaper.

Also, Ive got to say youve got not idea what you are talking about.

Saric shot 31% on 3s this year. Kelly is a career 37% shooter and shot 35% this year. Kelly is the better shooter.

Kelly is also a better passer and at the moment, a better defender.

Dario has a knack for clutch plays and has the potential to be a better defender than Klynyk while also relieving us of the mental roller coaster Klynyk provides.

he is also younger than Klynyk.

You can advocate bringing Saric on without inventing facts.

Re: Saric and the 3rd for Fultz?
« Reply #116 on: June 11, 2017, 12:38:22 AM »

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Why does anyone think that saris would be better than olynyc in a playoff team?

Because he would be. I like KO, but the dude tries to play like a PG in a Awkward Centers body. Saric is an athletic PF, shoots well from the out side, can go to the hoop, and plays good D.

He's also on the beginning of a rookie contract which frees up some money.
KO shoots better from the outside, is just as good going to the hoop and is probably a better defender right now.

KO is also at least as good as a passer.

Saric is a more confident shooter. He is also a better ball handler and passer than KO.
 
Marcus Smart is a confident shooter.  It doesn't really matter.  KO is a better shooter than Saric.

He's not lights out better than KO. And he has a smoother offensive game. And he's probably going to cost you at least 8mill less a year for the next couple seasons. This is more a business move than basketball move. Might have to move from KO for Hayward, and if you get Saric in a move with the 3rd pick, it's the right move.

You could even flip the 3rd and Crowder for Butler. That would take Miami out of the Hayward game.

Saric? no ... he is still under rookie contract until 2019/2020
reread the bolded. He is saying Saric will be cheaper.

Also, Ive got to say youve got not idea what you are talking about.

Saric shot 31% on 3s this year. Kelly is a career 37% shooter and shot 35% this year. Kelly is the better shooter.

Kelly is also a better passer and at the moment, a better defender.

Dario has a knack for clutch plays and has the potential to be a better defender than Klynyk while also relieving us of the mental roller coaster Klynyk provides.

he is also younger than Klynyk.

You can advocate bringing Saric on without inventing facts.

What facts are I inventing? I said he wasn't lights out better, and I'm going by this years numbers because it's unfair to compare averages when KO has a few more years on him. If you went by last seasons, then yes, KO is much better shooting 40% (which is a big part of the 37%avg) to Sarics 31%. But KO shooting 35% to Sarics 31% doesn't make you keep KO for 10 or 12 mill to Sarics 2+mill

No facts were invented, just my perspective of what "lights out better" is different from yours.

Re: Saric and the 3rd for Fultz?
« Reply #117 on: June 11, 2017, 12:44:35 AM »

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Why does anyone think that saris would be better than olynyc in a playoff team?

Because he would be. I like KO, but the dude tries to play like a PG in a Awkward Centers body. Saric is an athletic PF, shoots well from the out side, can go to the hoop, and plays good D.

He's also on the beginning of a rookie contract which frees up some money.
KO shoots better from the outside, is just as good going to the hoop and is probably a better defender right now.

KO is also at least as good as a passer.

Saric is a more confident shooter. He is also a better ball handler and passer than KO.
 
Marcus Smart is a confident shooter.  It doesn't really matter.  KO is a better shooter than Saric.

He's not lights out better than KO. And he has a smoother offensive game. And he's probably going to cost you at least 8mill less a year for the next couple seasons. This is more a business move than basketball move. Might have to move from KO for Hayward, and if you get Saric in a move with the 3rd pick, it's the right move.

You could even flip the 3rd and Crowder for Butler. That would take Miami out of the Hayward game.

Saric? no ... he is still under rookie contract until 2019/2020
reread the bolded. He is saying Saric will be cheaper.

Also, Ive got to say youve got not idea what you are talking about.

Saric shot 31% on 3s this year. Kelly is a career 37% shooter and shot 35% this year. Kelly is the better shooter.

Kelly is also a better passer and at the moment, a better defender.

Dario has a knack for clutch plays and has the potential to be a better defender than Klynyk while also relieving us of the mental roller coaster Klynyk provides.

he is also younger than Klynyk.

You can advocate bringing Saric on without inventing facts.

What facts are I inventing? I said he wasn't lights out better, and I'm going by this years numbers because it's unfair to compare averages when KO has a few more years on him. If you went by last seasons, then yes, KO is much better shooting 40% (which is a big part of the 37%avg) to Sarics 31%. But KO shooting 35% to Sarics 31% doesn't make you keep KO for 10 or 12 mill to Sarics 2+mill

No facts were invented, just my perspective of what "lights out better" is different from yours.
I was replying to Triboy. Not you.

Re: Saric and the 3rd for Fultz?
« Reply #118 on: June 11, 2017, 12:45:52 AM »

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Why does anyone think that saris would be better than olynyc in a playoff team?

Because he would be. I like KO, but the dude tries to play like a PG in a Awkward Centers body. Saric is an athletic PF, shoots well from the out side, can go to the hoop, and plays good D.

He's also on the beginning of a rookie contract which frees up some money.
KO shoots better from the outside, is just as good going to the hoop and is probably a better defender right now.

KO is also at least as good as a passer.

Saric is a more confident shooter. He is also a better ball handler and passer than KO.
 
Marcus Smart is a confident shooter.  It doesn't really matter.  KO is a better shooter than Saric.

He's not lights out better than KO. And he has a smoother offensive game. And he's probably going to cost you at least 8mill less a year for the next couple seasons. This is more a business move than basketball move. Might have to move from KO for Hayward, and if you get Saric in a move with the 3rd pick, it's the right move.

You could even flip the 3rd and Crowder for Butler. That would take Miami out of the Hayward game.

Saric? no ... he is still under rookie contract until 2019/2020
reread the bolded. He is saying Saric will be cheaper.

Also, Ive got to say youve got not idea what you are talking about.

Saric shot 31% on 3s this year. Kelly is a career 37% shooter and shot 35% this year. Kelly is the better shooter.

Kelly is also a better passer and at the moment, a better defender.

Dario has a knack for clutch plays and has the potential to be a better defender than Klynyk while also relieving us of the mental roller coaster Klynyk provides.

he is also younger than Klynyk.

You can advocate bringing Saric on without inventing facts.

What facts are I inventing? I said he wasn't lights out better, and I'm going by this years numbers because it's unfair to compare averages when KO has a few more years on him. If you went by last seasons, then yes, KO is much better shooting 40% (which is a big part of the 37%avg) to Sarics 31%. But KO shooting 35% to Sarics 31% doesn't make you keep KO for 10 or 12 mill to Sarics 2+mill

No facts were invented, just my perspective of what "lights out better" is different from yours.

What Sketch5 said!

Re: Saric and the 3rd for Fultz?
« Reply #119 on: June 11, 2017, 12:49:05 AM »

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Why does anyone think that saris would be better than olynyc in a playoff team?

Because he would be. I like KO, but the dude tries to play like a PG in a Awkward Centers body. Saric is an athletic PF, shoots well from the out side, can go to the hoop, and plays good D.

He's also on the beginning of a rookie contract which frees up some money.
KO shoots better from the outside, is just as good going to the hoop and is probably a better defender right now.

KO is also at least as good as a passer.

Saric is a more confident shooter. He is also a better ball handler and passer than KO.
 
Marcus Smart is a confident shooter.  It doesn't really matter.  KO is a better shooter than Saric.

He's not lights out better than KO. And he has a smoother offensive game. And he's probably going to cost you at least 8mill less a year for the next couple seasons. This is more a business move than basketball move. Might have to move from KO for Hayward, and if you get Saric in a move with the 3rd pick, it's the right move.

You could even flip the 3rd and Crowder for Butler. That would take Miami out of the Hayward game.

Saric? no ... he is still under rookie contract until 2019/2020
reread the bolded. He is saying Saric will be cheaper.

Also, Ive got to say youve got not idea what you are talking about.

Saric shot 31% on 3s this year. Kelly is a career 37% shooter and shot 35% this year. Kelly is the better shooter.

Kelly is also a better passer and at the moment, a better defender.

Dario has a knack for clutch plays and has the potential to be a better defender than Klynyk while also relieving us of the mental roller coaster Klynyk provides.

he is also younger than Klynyk.

You can advocate bringing Saric on without inventing facts.

What facts are I inventing? I said he wasn't lights out better, and I'm going by this years numbers because it's unfair to compare averages when KO has a few more years on him. If you went by last seasons, then yes, KO is much better shooting 40% (which is a big part of the 37%avg) to Sarics 31%. But KO shooting 35% to Sarics 31% doesn't make you keep KO for 10 or 12 mill to Sarics 2+mill

No facts were invented, just my perspective of what "lights out better" is different from yours.

What Sketch5 said!
Sketch5 didnt make anything up. you did.