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Re: Saric and the 3rd for Fultz?
« Reply #30 on: May 16, 2017, 09:50:14 PM »

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Simmons + #3, yes.

Ingram + Randle + #2, yes.

Those are about the only two trade downs that I would entertain.


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Re: Saric and the 3rd for Fultz?
« Reply #31 on: May 16, 2017, 09:50:23 PM »

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I love Bradley .... but he would be GREAT in a backcourt with Simmons ... any chance Philly goes for:

Bradley
MN 2nd (2017)
BOS 1st (2018)
Clippers 1st (2019)
Memphis 1st (2019)

For the #3

If so, we could use #3 in a trade for Butler (for #3, Zeller, Crowder, misc.)

That would leave us with:
Isaiah, Fultz, Butler, etc.

Re: Saric and the 3rd for Fultz?
« Reply #32 on: May 16, 2017, 09:51:37 PM »

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Simmons + #3, yes.

Ingram + Randle + #2, yes.

Those are about the only two trade downs that I would entertain.
Neither of those have a snowball's chance of hell in being offered. 

Re: Saric and the 3rd for Fultz?
« Reply #33 on: May 16, 2017, 09:51:37 PM »

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I love Bradley .... but he would be GREAT in a backcourt with Simmons ... any chance Philly goes for:

Bradley
MN 2nd (2017)
BOS 1st (2018)
Clippers 1st (2019)
Memphis 1st (2019)

For the #3

If so, we could use #3 in a trade for Butler (for #3, Zeller, Crowder, misc.)

That would leave us with:
Isaiah, Fultz, Butler, etc.

So basically, all of that, plus Crowder and Zeller for Butler?

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Re: Saric and the 3rd for Fultz?
« Reply #34 on: May 16, 2017, 09:55:15 PM »

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I love Bradley .... but he would be GREAT in a backcourt with Simmons ... any chance Philly goes for:

Bradley
MN 2nd (2017)
BOS 1st (2018)
Clippers 1st (2019)
Memphis 1st (2019)

For the #3

If so, we could use #3 in a trade for Butler (for #3, Zeller, Crowder, misc.)

That would leave us with:
Isaiah, Fultz, Butler, etc.
No chance.  Bradley is a 1 year rental and all those picks don't amount to much.  It they want Bradley, they can wait a year and overpay in free agency just like they'd have to if they traded for him.   

Re: Saric and the 3rd for Fultz?
« Reply #35 on: May 16, 2017, 09:56:14 PM »

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Simmons + #3, yes.

Ingram + Randle + #2, yes.

Those are about the only two trade downs that I would entertain.
Neither of those have a snowball's chance of hell in being offered.

True. Which is why we shouldn't trade down.


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Re: Saric and the 3rd for Fultz?
« Reply #36 on: May 16, 2017, 10:16:50 PM »

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If we take Fultz and I think we should, we should call The Magic about a Rozier for Gordon Trade. The main Problem for Gordon is that they keep trying to play him at the 3 when he's really a 4. We need and athletic rebounding, defending 4 and we have too many guards. The Magic need a lead guard. I'm not sure if the playoffs has pumped up Rozier's trade value as much as I think but I think that's a good trade for both teams.

Re: Saric and the 3rd for Fultz?
« Reply #37 on: May 16, 2017, 10:18:22 PM »

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If we take Fultz and I think we should, we should call The Magic about a Rozier for Gordon Trade. The main Problem for Gordon is that they keep trying to play him at the 3 when he's really a 4. We need and athletic rebounding, defending 4 and we have too many guards. The Magic need a lead guard. I'm not sure if the playoffs has pumped up Rozier's trade value as much as I think but I think that's a good trade for both teams.

That offer would go over like a wet fart.

Maybe Bradley + BOS 2018 for Gordon would fly but even then I think they'd want more.
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Re: Saric and the 3rd for Fultz?
« Reply #38 on: May 16, 2017, 10:23:02 PM »

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If we take Fultz and I think we should, we should call The Magic about a Rozier for Gordon Trade. The main Problem for Gordon is that they keep trying to play him at the 3 when he's really a 4. We need and athletic rebounding, defending 4 and we have too many guards. The Magic need a lead guard. I'm not sure if the playoffs has pumped up Rozier's trade value as much as I think but I think that's a good trade for both teams.

That offer would go over like a wet fart.

Maybe Bradley + BOS 2018 for Gordon would fly but even then I think they'd want more.

They already tried to trade to get Rozier for Ibaka. There's a photo of The Magic's white board that shows that they want to trade Gordon. They need a lead guard. I think TR has value around the league. Gordon is not working out for The Magic.

Re: Saric and the 3rd for Fultz?
« Reply #39 on: June 08, 2017, 12:35:02 PM »

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I think there is a possibility this type of trade could happen...especially if cbs/ainge are not big on Fultz

On draft night
To 76ers: Rozier , 2017 1st
To Celtics: Saric, 3rd pick, 39th pick

To Kings: 3rd pick
To Celtics: 5th, 10th

Draft
76ers- Fultz
Lakers- Ball
Kings- Fox
Suns- Jackson
Celtics- Tatum
Magic - Smith Jr.
Wolves - Markkanen
Knicks - Frank Ntilikina
Mavs - Isaac
Celtics - Monk

Celtics lineup
Horford
Saric
Crowder
AB
IT4

Zizic
Tatum
Brown
Smart
Monk

Re: Saric and the 3rd for Fultz?
« Reply #40 on: June 08, 2017, 12:44:54 PM »

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Simmons + #3, yes.

Ingram + Randle + #2, yes.

Those are about the only two trade downs that I would entertain.

Would you consider a trade down to 3 in the following trade?

#1 + Memphis + Celtics 2018  <---> Simmons + 3

I think people understating what we would effectively be doing for Philly. We would be allowing them to create a big 3 of Fultz/Embiid/Saric.  Having 2 good shooters/passers next to Embiid could allow that team to turn into a phenomenal team. Granted it depends on Embiids health, but I don't see Danny just letting Philly fix their roster crunch on a whim.
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Re: Saric and the 3rd for Fultz?
« Reply #41 on: June 08, 2017, 12:55:40 PM »

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Simmons + #3, yes.

Ingram + Randle + #2, yes.

Those are about the only two trade downs that I would entertain.

Would you consider a trade down to 3 in the following trade?

#1 + Memphis + Celtics 2018  <---> Simmons + 3

I think people understating what we would effectively be doing for Philly. We would be allowing them to create a big 3 of Fultz/Embiid/Saric.  Having 2 good shooters/passers next to Embiid could allow that team to turn into a phenomenal team. Granted it depends on Embiids health, but I don't see Danny just letting Philly fix their roster crunch on a whim.

Heck no.

That Memphis pick is in 2019 and is only 1-8 protected, 1-6 the following year and entirely unprotected in 2021. Of their top 7 players, 4 are old - Carter, Gasol, TA and Randoph. Conley is already 29. Those guys aren't going to get any better and they're losing their first rounder this year. That's a team in decline with no good way to backfill the roster.

In short, there's a fair chance that pick is a lottery pick two years from now. There's no way I'm giving that asset up in what looks like a "throw in".
Jaylen Brown will be an All Star in the next 5 years.

Re: Saric and the 3rd for Fultz?
« Reply #42 on: June 08, 2017, 12:57:19 PM »

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Let's look at that trade in this way: Saric and Mike Conley or Andre Iguadala or Danny Granger for Stephen Curry

would you do it then?

Re: Saric and the 3rd for Fultz?
« Reply #43 on: June 08, 2017, 12:59:28 PM »

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I just lost my high after considering that. No way I am trading the number 1 pick. We have the chance at a generational talent in Fultz and have been waiting for a 1st pick for a lifetime!

Kevin McHale and Michael Jordan were #3 picks.  They worked out pretty well.

Re: Saric and the 3rd for Fultz?
« Reply #44 on: June 08, 2017, 12:59:59 PM »

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Let's look at that trade in this way: Saric and Mike Conley or Andre Iguadala or Danny Granger for Stephen Curry

would you do it then?

So you are saying Fultz is the next Steph Curry?