6 days till deadline whats your prediction

[Boris Badenov]

• Trade talk at All-Star weekend has been "as slow as it's been in a long time," said one executive who has not received a single phone call. A lot of teams have made it known which players they are open to moving, but the problem is finding trade partners. Very few teams are willing to part with premium draft picks or take on future salary, which are the two key drivers for trades.

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/writer/ken-berger/24445936/all-star-diary-props-to-melo-aldridge-for-caring

This, along with the relative quiet on the Celtics front in particular, makes me think it's *more* likely that Danny is working on something.

[cletus1985]

I know it will never happen but how sweet would it be if this trade happened?

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=maef5ll

Brooklyn would have to admit they're aren't winning a championship and want to take the salary relief (which isn't going to happen), but how sweet would it be to see KG and Duncan win a title together? Hopefully in a revenge match where they destroy the Heat  .

Just a pipedream of mine to see the 2 greatest PF/C's of this era team up. The interior defense would be insane.

[tyrone biggums]

I think you'll see Houston move one of their forwards but thats really about it. Aside of course from the minor trade or two I just don't see it. Meanwhile I do expect draft night to be the busiest in league history. Miller also gets moved for something. Zero Celtics trades. I just think Danny is overplaying his hand and will get burned

[LilRip]

Until we are closer to contention, we need everything. It's much too early in the rebuilding process to worry about positional needs, IMO.

So, you're in favor of making an offer for Kenneth Faried?

I was talking about the draft.  But yeah, if we can get a good PF at a reasonable cost I don't see the issue per se. In a year we'd have two young PFs to use as the centerpiece of a trade to acquire a bigger star, allowing us to keep one no matter what.

And who knows, maybe our trading partner would prefer Faried.

Or, Sully could get hurt. Etc.

Ilyasova should be looked at the same way as Faried. Acquire talent/assets that may be undervalued. Figure out what to do with them later.

Detroit seems to rather move Josh Smith than Monroe. No one wants his bloated contract, so I think we could get him on the cheap and Rondo/Josh Smith could be our PP and RayvAllen to attract the next KG (figuratively speaking of course).

I disagree with trading for the BPA like Faried, especially if you already have a great piece at his position (like sully). If anything, I think it will decrease the value of both players. Not only that, but it takes away PT from each other, or if you play them At the same time, they'll be forced into unfavorable match ups.

I think BPA mentality only works for the draft.

[Boris Badenov]

Until we are closer to contention, we need everything. It's much too early in the rebuilding process to worry about positional needs, IMO.

So, you're in favor of making an offer for Kenneth Faried?

I was talking about the draft.  But yeah, if we can get a good PF at a reasonable cost I don't see the issue per se. In a year we'd have two young PFs to use as the centerpiece of a trade to acquire a bigger star, allowing us to keep one no matter what.

And who knows, maybe our trading partner would prefer Faried.

Or, Sully could get hurt. Etc.

Ilyasova should be looked at the same way as Faried. Acquire talent/assets that may be undervalued. Figure out what to do with them later.

Detroit seems to rather move Josh Smith than Monroe. No one wants his bloated contract, so I think we could get him on the cheap and Rondo/Josh Smith could be our PP and RayvAllen to attract the next KG (figuratively speaking of course).

I disagree with trading for the BPA like Faried, especially if you already have a great piece at his position (like sully). If anything, I think it will decrease the value of both players. Not only that, but it takes away PT from each other, or if you play them At the same time, they'll be forced into unfavorable match ups.

I think BPA mentality only works for the draft.

But you don't have to keep them both.

Not only that, if the goal is building a championship team, a guy like Faried might be your sixth man. He'd be perfect in that role.

Or, you can slot Faried at SF/C for 10mpg, and Sully at C for 10mpg. That makes it pretty easy to play each of them 34mpg.

And like I said, Sully might get hurt.

Or, whatever hypothetical franchise player we get might be a much better fit with Faried than with Sullinger.

There are lots of possibilities, I think, and no rush to have everyone slotted into fixed roles as of yet.

And finally - and I'm just curious about this, not trying to pick a fight - all of the arguments you gave against getting Faried would apply to someone we drafted at PF, at least within a year or two after drafting them. So why does BPA apply to the draft but not trades?

[csfansince60s]

Until we are closer to contention, we need everything. It's much too early in the rebuilding process to worry about positional needs, IMO.

So, you're in favor of making an offer for Kenneth Faried?

I was talking about the draft.  But yeah, if we can get a good PF at a reasonable cost I don't see the issue per se. In a year we'd have two young PFs to use as the centerpiece of a trade to acquire a bigger star, allowing us to keep one no matter what.

And who knows, maybe our trading partner would prefer Faried.

Or, Sully could get hurt. Etc.

V
Ilyasova should be looked at the same way as Faried. Acquire talent/assets that may be undervalued. Figure out what to do with them later.

Detroit seems to rather move Josh Smith than Monroe. No one wants his bloated contract, so I think we could get him on the cheap and Rondo/Josh Smith could be our PP and RayvAllen to attract the next KG (figuratively speaking of course).

I disagree with trading for the BPA like Faried, especially if you already have a great piece at his position (like sully). If anything, I think it will decrease the value of both players. Not only that, but it takes away PT from each other, or if you play them At the same time, they'll be forced into unfavorable match ups.

I think BPA mentality only works for the draft.

I think BPA strategy also works especially  for young, rebuilding teams whose interest in winning now is counter-productive.

Getting Faried, Ilyasova, any BPA where we're already overloaded creates an even more imbalanced line-up which gets us a better draft pick while still accumulating assets, even if they are redundant.

[colincb]

• Trade talk at All-Star weekend has been "as slow as it's been in a long time," said one executive who has not received a single phone call. A lot of teams have made it known which players they are open to moving, but the problem is finding trade partners. Very few teams are willing to part with premium draft picks or take on future salary, which are the two key drivers for trades.

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/writer/ken-berger/24445936/all-star-diary-props-to-melo-aldridge-for-caring

This, along with the relative quiet on the Celtics front in particular, makes me think it's *more* likely that Danny is working on something

Even more likely that Danny was smart to get two deals done already.

[LooseCannon]

I predict that no 2014 lottery picks will change hands before the deadline.

[colincb]

"[Toronoto GM] Ujiri said he really has not heard from anyone lately, actually showed me his phone... a lot of calls from the family, not NBA GMs"

Twitter @stevekylerNBA

[lon3lytoaster]

"[Toronoto GM] Ujiri said he really has not heard from anyone lately, actually showed me his phone... a lot of calls from the family, not NBA GMs"

Twitter @stevekylerNBA

I wouldn't call Ujiri, either. Guys a full blown jedi.

[LilRip]

Until we are closer to contention, we need everything. It's much too early in the rebuilding process to worry about positional needs, IMO.

So, you're in favor of making an offer for Kenneth Faried?

I was talking about the draft.  But yeah, if we can get a good PF at a reasonable cost I don't see the issue per se. In a year we'd have two young PFs to use as the centerpiece of a trade to acquire a bigger star, allowing us to keep one no matter what.

And who knows, maybe our trading partner would prefer Faried.

Or, Sully could get hurt. Etc.

Ilyasova should be looked at the same way as Faried. Acquire talent/assets that may be undervalued. Figure out what to do with them later.

Detroit seems to rather move Josh Smith than Monroe. No one wants his bloated contract, so I think we could get him on the cheap and Rondo/Josh Smith could be our PP and RayvAllen to attract the next KG (figuratively speaking of course).

I disagree with trading for the BPA like Faried, especially if you already have a great piece at his position (like sully). If anything, I think it will decrease the value of both players. Not only that, but it takes away PT from each other, or if you play them At the same time, they'll be forced into unfavorable match ups.

I think BPA mentality only works for the draft.

But you don't have to keep them both.

Not only that, if the goal is building a championship team, a guy like Faried might be your sixth man. He'd be perfect in that role.

Or, you can slot Faried at SF/C for 10mpg, and Sully at C for 10mpg. That makes it pretty easy to play each of them 34mpg.

And like I said, Sully might get hurt.

Or, whatever hypothetical franchise player we get might be a much better fit with Faried than with Sullinger.

There are lots of possibilities, I think, and no rush to have everyone slotted into fixed roles as of yet.

And finally - and I'm just curious about this, not trying to pick a fight - all of the arguments you gave against getting Faried would apply to someone we drafted at PF, at least within a year or two after drafting them. So why does BPA apply to the draft but not trades?

Because in trades, particularly for a guy like Faried, the player is a known commodity. If he gets buried in the depth chart or starts losing out on minutes, his value goes down. If his play becomes irregular (might be caused by irregular minutes), then his trade value suffers again, I would think.

I don't think his situation in Denver this year has been favorable for him (trade value-wise). Compare that to last year when his trade value was likely higher.

Unlike with a rookie, there are more excuses to be made why he's not getting PT and there's always the inconsistency that's to be expected. If you flip a rookie in a year or 2 after never giving him consistent minutes, he'll still be "oozing with potential".

Anyway, I hope you don't misconstrue my stance of don't go BPA as absolute. I had a qualifier of "if you already have a great piece at that position". I think Sully is a great piece. But for example, if we were talking about a BPA at SG or SF, since I view neither Green nor Bradley as "great pieces", I would be happy.

[mmmmm]

I did read somewhere that ainge wants to get significantly better at the trade deadline. he doesnt want to get better by 3 wins, but significantly better.

Meaning he's not going to make a trade that will take us from 5th worst team to 10th worst team.

More likely he makes a trade that will take us from 5th worst team to 3rd worst team.

Someone like Asik is more valuable than the difference between the 5th and 10th pick.

This^

[ssspence]

I predict that no 2014 lottery picks will change hands before the deadline.

I think this is a pretty good one, especially based on what happened (or what didn't, I should say) last year at this time.

To get a lottery pick in this or next year's draft, you'd have to be trading a young all-star. I don't see any legitimately on the market.

This spring at draft time, however, I think we will see a couple change hands

[hpantazo]

Stein is reporting a potential Jason Terry for Jarrett Jack deal:

http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/10472347/brooklny-nets-cleveland-cavaliers-talk-jason-terry-jarrett-jack-deal

[SHAQATTACK]

I did read somewhere that ainge wants to get significantly better at the trade deadline. he doesnt want to get better by 3 wins, but significantly better.

Meaning he's not going to make a trade that will take us from 5th worst team to 10th worst team.

More likely he makes a trade that will take us from 5th worst team to 3rd worst team.

Someone like Asik is more valuable than the difference between the 5th and 10th pick.

This^

Yeah for teams without a center .


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