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Re: Asik trade rumors (Boston in the mix; update on page 16)
« Reply #660 on: December 19, 2013, 11:56:56 AM »

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C,mon Ainge get the deal done.

Re: Asik trade rumors (Boston in the mix; update on page 16)
« Reply #661 on: December 19, 2013, 12:04:14 PM »

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Is it unreasonable to assume the following averages when Rondo gets back?

Rondo: 14
Bradley: 14
Green: 16
Sully: 16
Asik: 10

Crawford: 10
Olynyk: 8
Pressey/Fav/Hump/Wallace combine for around 10

Those are pretty reasonable numbers and that's 98 points. Not a ton but enough to win games, especially with an elite defense.

  This is a good way of looking at things. In most years the average team gets about 65 ppg from its starters and  only a handful get over 70 ppg from their starters. While it's unclear what happens with Rondo's health this year, it's not a stretch to see Rondo/AB/Green/Sully combining for 60 points or so, especially next year. You wouldn't need a ton of scoring from Asik. As for the bench, we're a little weak there after trading Bass and Lee but Crawford, a decent scoring wing and a backup big or two should supply the scoring we need.

  Combine that with the defense we should see and it's a fairly solid unit. Again, probably a player away from being at least a fringe contender. It's true the team doesn't have a top level scorer, but they do have Rondo. His ability to create open looks for his teammates is a big help in the playoffs, when defenses are tougher.

Re: Asik trade rumors (Boston in the mix; update on page 16)
« Reply #662 on: December 19, 2013, 12:18:51 PM »

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The Houston Rockets can trade Omer Asik on Friday and still re-trade anyone acquired before Feb. 20, but they will continue to operate under their self-imposed Thursday deadline.

If the Rockets are unable to agree to terms on a trade, they will reset trade talks entirely.

The Rockets' strong preference is to trade Asik by the end of Thursday, but appear willing to blow up negotiations.

The Rockets and Boston Celtics have moved closest to a deal.

I call shenanigans...


A deadline is a deadline, man. After today, the Asik window is completely closed. Right now the 76ers, Celtics, and Hawks are horses, racing around a track somewhere in Houston, edging ever closer to today's finish line. The one who is in the lead at the end of the day will claim the prize!

Right?

Nope.

This deadline is just to allow Houston more options in terms of follow-up trades before the deadline.

But anyone acquired in an Asik deal next week can still be traded, so long as his salary is not being aggregated (combined) with others.

Morey's playing chicken right now, and hopes to get the other GM to crumble. Except there's another 100 yards of road ahead, and everyone knows it.
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Re: Asik trade rumors (Boston in the mix; update on page 16)
« Reply #663 on: December 19, 2013, 12:36:33 PM »

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Right now where we are going to be picking it will be hard to get a player that will average 10 Pts and 10 rebs.

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« Reply #664 on: December 19, 2013, 12:47:52 PM »

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According to Woj, Philly is still in the mix.

No clear end in sight.
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Re: Asik trade rumors (Boston in the mix; update on page 16)
« Reply #665 on: December 19, 2013, 12:54:20 PM »

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According to Woj, Philly is still in the mix.

No clear end in sight.

Man, if Ainge can get the Celtics back into that three-team scenario with Philly (exprings and a future 1st for Asik, with Thad Young going to Houston), I'd love it.
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Re: Asik trade rumors (Boston in the mix; update on page 16)
« Reply #666 on: December 19, 2013, 01:00:21 PM »

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According to Woj, Philly is still in the mix.

No clear end in sight.

The more i think about it, there is no need for philly to offer more than hawes. Its a equal trade

76rs players like young are increasingly becoming frustrated losing. A defensivr anchor can really help while hawes paired with dhoward makes sense.

76rs could use another high pick for 2014 but that will likely net them back a non center pick through the draft. This way they secure a weak position for the future also.

Re: Asik trade rumors (Boston in the mix; update on page 16)
« Reply #667 on: December 19, 2013, 01:03:41 PM »

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Houston has ended talks on an Omer Asik trade and plan to keep him for now, league source tells Yahoo Sports.

Woj Yahoo.


Re: Asik trade rumors (Boston in the mix; update on page 16)
« Reply #668 on: December 19, 2013, 01:03:53 PM »

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Houston has ended talks on an Omer Asik trade and plan to keep him for now, league source tells Yahoo Sports.

So that's that. Moving on, then.
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« Reply #669 on: December 19, 2013, 01:04:32 PM »

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Houston has ended talks on an Omer Asik trade and plan to keep him for now, league source tells Yahoo Sports.

Woj Yahoo.

Posturing. They aren't keeping Asik. Trying to get teams to up their offer before end of the day.

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« Reply #670 on: December 19, 2013, 01:06:48 PM »

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Houston has ended talks on an Omer Asik trade and plan to keep him for now, league source tells Yahoo Sports.

Woj Yahoo.

Posturing. They aren't keeping Asik. Trying to get teams to up their offer before end of the day.

Yup. Just like LA called off the deal and Rivers is coming back as our coach ;)
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Re: Asik trade rumors (Boston in the mix; update on page 16)
« Reply #671 on: December 19, 2013, 01:09:48 PM »

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They prop didnt get atl, phil to bite and are not big on or couldnt get the pick they wanted from the celts

What a waste for hous to keep this guy on the bench. It could backfire on them by the trade deadline

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« Reply #672 on: December 19, 2013, 01:12:19 PM »

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Houston has ended talks on an Omer Asik trade and plan to keep him for now, league source tells Yahoo Sports.

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good - can only hope this is true.  tired of the trade talk for a defensive-only center. 

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« Reply #673 on: December 19, 2013, 01:19:31 PM »

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Houston has ended talks on an Omer Asik trade and plan to keep him for now, league source tells Yahoo Sports.

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good - can only hope this is true.  tired of the trade talk for a defensive-only center.

Defense only ?

The guy is one if not the best rebounder in this league.

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« Reply #674 on: December 19, 2013, 01:19:56 PM »

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Houston has ended talks on an Omer Asik trade and plan to keep him for now, league source tells Yahoo Sports.

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good - can only hope this is true.  tired of the trade talk for a defensive-only center.

Asik for Bass, Lee and a 1st is a good deal, but only if the 1st isn't in 2014 and isn't unprotected.  If Houston thinks they're getting a better deal than that from anyone, they're high.

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