Marc Gasol: 11.7 PPG, 7 RPG, 1.7 BPG
Dwight Howard: 22.9 PPG, 14.1 RPG, 2.4 BPG
I'm confused. I thought players play the games, not stats
Correct.
Stats are the numerical results of that play.
According to that, he is twice the player on the court.
By the eye test, he is the superior player while Gasol is a clog on a team with more talent.
Lets see Howard play alongside Zack Randolph. Then we'll see how his points and rebound numbers look then. Thats why I'm not a stats-freak. Its always skewed by the circumstance
I am going to guess Randolph's rebounding numbers are going to take a good sized hit.
Was just going to say the same thing. Yes stats don't always show a good comparison in players, but when there is that large of a difference, you usually can stop the comparing right there. If you swap Gasol and Howard right now, what happens? Memphis improves and Orlando goes backwards. Howard is an all-star center, Gasol is a good starting center, but he's not an all-star.
Yeah you have a point
But a better player does not always mean the best option
Gasol moves the ball around more, picks his spots to score within the team structure. Howard on the other hand is a ball dominator in the post, and not a good passer. Theres a reason why he had that 46 and 19 game against Atlanta and still lost the game
Stats look pretty when you wanna make the all-star team, but I much rather have a center who plays within a team. And Gasol is above-average in my opinion
He is above-average, he's good, I did say that. The reason he went for 46 and 19 and lost was because his team is no good. For what we need in the future, Dwight is a much better fit. Gasol is a good fit when he's the 3rd or 4th option offensively. With the big 3 declining we need a #1 option, Gasol can't give us that, Howard can. Howard can be the guy to get us 20+ a game, Gasol isn't going to be able to do that.
Howard is not even a #1 option. He's never the guy the team closes the game with. In that '09 Finals run, Turkgolu, Rahard Lewis, and Raafer Alston all were ahead of him in as far as taking the last shot
Of course, centers rarely take last shots. How many times did teams try to have Shaq take the last shot? It's incredibly difficult to try to go to a post player on a last shot because of how easy it is to double team. Dwight Howard led his team in Field Goals attempted this year, I'd say that's being the #1 option.
Shaq almost always took the last shot, or was an impact in the final play, don't make that excuse
Don't try to mask Howard's weaknesses. If we were talking about Hakeem Olajuwon, I wouldn't even bring Marc Gasol in the discussion. He can't control the game offensively, if he tries it becomes a 1 on 1 match with the guy he's guarding and his teammates just stand and watch
And for all that athletic prowess that he has, he is 27. In a few years all of that would fade and those fundamental skills that he is lacking would all come into question. You can't win with just athleticism and dunking, just ask Darryl Dawkins