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Re: Why did Danny trade for Jeff Green?
« Reply #45 on: April 10, 2011, 09:28:03 PM »

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Easy answer = money.  

The "Fox News" answer = Ray and Paul Pierce are old and cannot play all these minutes.

The Truth = Danny Ainge made a HUGE error in judgement and got spooked by the trade deadline.

I am hoping this teams wakes up, but it really looks like the Perkins trade will go down as one of the worst trades in the history of Boston sports.  Celtics gave up a championship to save a few $$$$.  Sad.

Re: Why did Danny trade for Jeff Green?
« Reply #46 on: April 10, 2011, 09:28:56 PM »

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I still wish I could understand why people seem to think Jeff Green was the only guy available that the Celts could get to back up Pierce.

I'm interested in the alternatives.


Anthony Parker? Jamario Moon? Think we're complaining now?

They would be giving us as much as Green has and it would not have cost Perk. Bottom line is that Jeff Green is a total non-factor for this team.

Re: Why did Danny trade for Jeff Green?
« Reply #47 on: April 10, 2011, 09:34:54 PM »

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 Celtics gave up a championship to save a few $$$$.  Sad.

That's not fair.  I'd say the Cs accepted a lower probability of a championship to save $$$.

To say the Cs had the championship in hand is ludicrous, nothing was given and the beloved Perk was out with an injury with no clear timetable about when he'd be back.  But I agree part of the reason to make the trade was to save $$$$.  I can't blame the owners for that, they've spent plenty in the past (unlike, for example, the Gaston family). 
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Re: Why did Danny trade for Jeff Green?
« Reply #48 on: April 10, 2011, 09:58:43 PM »

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I still wish I could understand why people seem to think Jeff Green was the only guy available that the Celts could get to back up Pierce.

I'm interested in the alternatives.


Anthony Parker? Jamario Moon? Think we're complaining now?

They would be giving us as much as Green has and it would not have cost Perk. Bottom line is that Jeff Green is a total non-factor for this team.
I agree.  even if all we got was either Parker or Moon, they could play 12-15 minutes a game to cover for PP.  We'd most likely could have gotten either in that deal for Semih and Luke and thereby keep Perk and Nate.  Marquis was on the way out so we probably could have gotten Pavlovic as well so we'd have another PP backup.  Neither has the overall talent of Green but let's face it, Green hasn't produced much since the trade.

If we could have gotten Wallace instead, THAT would have been a real coup.  Charlotte took basically the equivalent of Semih and Luke for him.  C's could have sent them instead.  Throw in Nate or Quisy to make the money work.  Charlotte needs a real center prospect and Semih certainly fits that mold better than Pryz.

Re: Why did Danny trade for Jeff Green?
« Reply #49 on: April 10, 2011, 10:01:49 PM »

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The Celts dis not give up a championship. It was never theirs to give. They were not half as hungry as they were in 2008, so they didnt care enough to conquer all the adversities they had to conquer in 2008 and last year's loss in the finals was the straw that broke the camel's back. I was just a matter of time for hungrier teams to take over. The last two year's playoffs were brutal for us. Juts think back what we went thru and we almost made it twice. We just ran out of gas. Nothing to be ashamed of. we had 2 & 1/2  wonderful years with this team.. Perk wast going to make a difference with this team. Not one player was going to do it. Ainge knew it.

Re: Why did Danny trade for Jeff Green?
« Reply #50 on: April 10, 2011, 10:30:54 PM »

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The Celts dis not give up a championship. It was never theirs to give. They were not half as hungry as they were in 2008, so they didnt care enough to conquer all the adversities they had to conquer in 2008 and last year's loss in the finals was the straw that broke the camel's back. I was just a matter of time for hungrier teams to take over. The last two year's playoffs were brutal for us. Juts think back what we went thru and we almost made it twice. We just ran out of gas. Nothing to be ashamed of. we had 2 & 1/2  wonderful years with this team.. Perk wast going to make a difference with this team. Not one player was going to do it. Ainge knew it.

Dante, here's my problem with that.  Maybe you are right, that the C's weren't going to win it this year with or without Perk.  So if Danny felts our 'window' was up at the end of last year.  Why re-sign Paul to a 4 year deal?  Why re-sign Ray to a 2 year deal.  Why not just start gutting it last year?  I don't believe that.  I think they had plenty of hunger, motivation and ability to win it coming off of Game 7 from last year.  They should be fighting for #18 this year.  I don't know what the heck happened to them over the last few months.  I really don't.  Injuries, trade, confidence, Rondo transforming himself into a borderline NBA starting point guard.  The reasons could be a combination of things.

Re: Why did Danny trade for Jeff Green?
« Reply #51 on: April 10, 2011, 11:54:30 PM »

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Easy answer = money.  

The "Fox News" answer = Ray and Paul Pierce are old and cannot play all these minutes.

The Truth = Danny Ainge made a HUGE error in judgement and got spooked by the trade deadline.

I am hoping this teams wakes up, but it really looks like the Perkins trade will go down as one of the worst trades in the history of Boston sports.  Celtics gave up a championship to save a few $$$$.  Sad.

Green and Krstic not doing as well as we thought they would sucks, but how does it mean Danny got "spooked" by the trade deadline? It was a good trade to me on paper, and for a while it looked to be working for a while. Then, both Green and Krstic simmered down.

Still, I do wonder if the Celtics are just coasting till next Sunday (when supposedly Game 1 for them is).

Re: Why did Danny trade for Jeff Green?
« Reply #52 on: April 11, 2011, 12:05:27 AM »

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Easy answer = money.  

The "Fox News" answer = Ray and Paul Pierce are old and cannot play all these minutes.

The Truth = Danny Ainge made a HUGE error in judgement and got spooked by the trade deadline.

I am hoping this teams wakes up, but it really looks like the Perkins trade will go down as one of the worst trades in the history of Boston sports.  Celtics gave up a championship to save a few $$$$.  Sad.

Green and Krstic not doing as well as we thought they would sucks, but how does it mean Danny got "spooked" by the trade deadline? It was a good trade to me on paper, and for a while it looked to be working for a while. Then, both Green and Krstic simmered down.

Still, I do wonder if the Celtics are just coasting till next Sunday (when supposedly Game 1 for them is).

I don't buy that they're "coasting."  This game basically decided homecourt if we match up against Miami in the playoffs.  For all intents and purposes, it *was* a playoff game, or should have been viewed as such.  Same as the Chicago game.  I hope that I'm wrong, but I think the issues they're facing now are structural. 

The only hope really is if Rondo starts playing out of his mind again, for all of his flaws when the kid's on we can beat anybody.

I've thought way too much about that [dang] trade.  I'm not sure that Danny panicked.  I think he talked himself into something he shouldn't have.  I think he talked himself into Shaq and JO both likely being available for the playoffs, and that if so, Perk was somewhat expendable. 

Now, even when we signed these guys over the summer, I think most of us were just hoping that ONE of the two would be healthy at any given time, so to me it's absolutely ridiculous that we would be trading the one guy who was most likely to be at least 85% - 90% by the playoffs.  Perk did have his own injury issues, but he was playing and was always more likely to be available in May/June than either of The Brothers O'Neil.

Once Danny talked himself into the O'Neils being healthy, he saw Jeff Green as a young talent that could bridge the gap.  He'd fill in the immediate need for a Pierce backup and be Pierce's long-term successor.  I think he seriously overestimated Green's abilities; I mean, every NBA commentator was killing the trade at the time... and they've basically been proven right.  Jeff Green could score mostly because he was on the floor a lot, but doesn't do much of anything exceptionally well and tends to disappear. 

Still, Danny expected the O'Neils to be back (a horribly flawed assumption), and viewed the trade as a chance to REALLY make a splash for the future. 

MUCH safer would have been to do what I think a lot of us wanted him to do at the time - a small deal for an Anthony Parker-type, maybe a Dahntay Jones, someone who could give us 10 or 15 decent minutes and not cost us any playoff-rotation players to acquire.  Would have been a much lower risk acquisition. 

Re: Why did Danny trade for Jeff Green?
« Reply #53 on: April 11, 2011, 12:08:15 AM »

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I don't understand the "They did it for money" argument. If they did it for money, why trade for a guy that the Celtics will have to resign for a good amount of money?

Re: Why did Danny trade for Jeff Green?
« Reply #54 on: April 11, 2011, 12:09:03 AM »

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If this team is "coasting" with these last games then they should get knocked out in 4 in the first round. Because they'd deserve it.

I don't think this is the case. I think this team is done and can't win.
But if they "turn it on" again then I'll be a little mad at them.
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Re: Why did Danny trade for Jeff Green?
« Reply #55 on: April 11, 2011, 12:22:48 AM »

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If this team is "coasting" with these last games then they should get knocked out in 4 in the first round. Because they'd deserve it.

I don't think this is the case. I think this team is done and can't win.
But if they "turn it on" again then I'll be a little mad at them.

I wonder how Laker fans feel. Probably wanna trade this or that player like Celtics fans want to trade Rondo.  :D

Re: Why did Danny trade for Jeff Green?
« Reply #56 on: April 11, 2011, 12:36:05 AM »

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Easy answer = money.  

The "Fox News" answer = Ray and Paul Pierce are old and cannot play all these minutes.

The Truth = Danny Ainge made a HUGE error in judgement and got spooked by the trade deadline.

I am hoping this teams wakes up, but it really looks like the Perkins trade will go down as one of the worst trades in the history of Boston sports.  Celtics gave up a championship to save a few $$$$.  Sad.

Well said, tp.

Re: Why did Danny trade for Jeff Green?
« Reply #57 on: April 11, 2011, 01:06:42 AM »

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Because he was is and still will be the best player on the trade.
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Re: Why did Danny trade for Jeff Green?
« Reply #58 on: April 11, 2011, 01:11:24 AM »

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To knock LA out of the playoffs.

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Re: Why did Danny trade for Jeff Green?
« Reply #59 on: April 11, 2011, 01:15:17 AM »

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If this team is "coasting" with these last games then they should get knocked out in 4 in the first round. Because they'd deserve it.

I don't think this is the case. I think this team is done and can't win.
But if they "turn it on" again then I'll be a little mad at them.

I wonder how Laker fans feel. Probably wanna trade this or that player like Celtics fans want to trade Rondo.  :D

get rid of that kobe guy he stinks

p.s. did you see phil benching gasol
fun times
did you see kobe hitting impresivly imposible shots with lamar open
come on this last 10 games are like pre season
this league is not in the same league
teams WILL turn that switch on and you will
mark this
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