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Re: Why did Danny trade for Jeff Green?
« Reply #120 on: April 12, 2011, 06:53:12 AM »

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I don't understand it at all... a PF shooting 40% somehow translates into "he can play"?
Green is not a PF. He played this entire game at SF, and was probably fouled on multiple of those missed shots, but the referee brigade was beyond atrocious.
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Re: Why did Danny trade for Jeff Green?
« Reply #121 on: April 12, 2011, 07:11:28 AM »

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I don't understand it at all... a PF shooting 40% somehow translates into "he can play"?
Green is not a PF. He played this entire game at SF, and was probably fouled on multiple of those missed shots, but the referee brigade was beyond atrocious.

Agreed with kozlodoev.

Re: Why did Danny trade for Jeff Green?
« Reply #122 on: April 12, 2011, 07:38:35 AM »

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Green versus say NY and Miami's benches should work. Off the top of my head, he should have good matchups there. Help me out Who.
Jeff Green will be particularly useful as a power forward against New York. He'll have a matchup advantage against Jared Jeffries and/or Shawne Williams. He'll also be able to take advantage of NY's only backup wing, Bill Walker.

Keep KG at the five on Amare and put Green out there as a four against Jeffries or Williams and Boston can really nullify NY's usual advantages by going small. 

New York have one, possibly two players, who can defend Jeff Green well. Carmelo Anthony certainly can and Landry Fields is maybe ... although Fields is a bit small to defend Green in the post but he should do just fine otherwise.

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Miami only have one player who can defend Jeff Green and that's LeBron James.

Their backup wings, Mike Miller and James Jones, are too small physically and too vulnerable defensively to matchup against a power three like Jeff Green.

LeBron will likely be playing anywhere from 40-44 minutes a night in that series though so Jeff Green's court time with a matchup advantage could be quite short.

Paul Pierce will be LeBron's principal defensive assignment though so they might be able to free up some more advantageous opportunities for Green by playing him alongside Paul and going big on the wings. That may depend on Green's ability to defend Dwyane Wade which is a question mark to say the least. So it's unclear whether that will work and/or how many minutes they can get out of it if he can't defend Wade. Hard to know.

Jeff Green will be terrific against Miller and/or J.Jones.

Who i think you are dead on with regards to NY.  MY only question with the heat is why didnt we see it on sunday?  Theoretically he should be able to dominate but he didnt.  :(
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Re: Why did Danny trade for Jeff Green?
« Reply #123 on: April 12, 2011, 10:35:15 AM »

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Worth noting that the opposing small forwards of our likely first two playoff opponents are Carmelo Anthony & Lebron James.

Re: Why did Danny trade for Jeff Green?
« Reply #124 on: April 12, 2011, 10:41:18 AM »

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Green versus say NY and Miami's benches should work. Off the top of my head, he should have good matchups there. Help me out Who.
Jeff Green will be particularly useful as a power forward against New York. He'll have a matchup advantage against Jared Jeffries and/or Shawne Williams. He'll also be able to take advantage of NY's only backup wing, Bill Walker.

Keep KG at the five on Amare and put Green out there as a four against Jeffries or Williams and Boston can really nullify NY's usual advantages by going small. 

New York have one, possibly two players, who can defend Jeff Green well. Carmelo Anthony certainly can and Landry Fields is maybe ... although Fields is a bit small to defend Green in the post but he should do just fine otherwise.

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Miami only have one player who can defend Jeff Green and that's LeBron James.

Their backup wings, Mike Miller and James Jones, are too small physically and too vulnerable defensively to matchup against a power three like Jeff Green.

LeBron will likely be playing anywhere from 40-44 minutes a night in that series though so Jeff Green's court time with a matchup advantage could be quite short.

Paul Pierce will be LeBron's principal defensive assignment though so they might be able to free up some more advantageous opportunities for Green by playing him alongside Paul and going big on the wings. That may depend on Green's ability to defend Dwyane Wade which is a question mark to say the least. So it's unclear whether that will work and/or how many minutes they can get out of it if he can't defend Wade. Hard to know.

Jeff Green will be terrific against Miller and/or J.Jones.

Who i think you are dead on with regards to NY.  MY only question with the heat is why didnt we see it on sunday?  Theoretically he should be able to dominate but he didnt.  :(

The thing is, NY doesnt really have players that fit traditional positions.  They have amare and melo as the biggest guys on the court sometimes, and billups playing alongside Toney douglass at other times. If melos their second biggest player, would you put green on him?  When they play chauncey and toney together, how do you think Ray will do chasing around a PG?

Anyway you look at it, the matchups will be give and take. Where we have size, they'll have speed. Where we have speed, they'll have size.

I think it'll come down to execution, and hopefully our experience can put us over the top with that.

Re: Why did Danny trade for Jeff Green?
« Reply #125 on: April 12, 2011, 10:41:28 AM »

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Worth noting that the opposing small forwards of our likely first two playoff opponents are Carmelo Anthony & Lebron James.


And the Celtics (this season) never lost to Lebron without Green, never won with Green.

Re: Why did Danny trade for Jeff Green?
« Reply #126 on: April 12, 2011, 10:42:39 AM »

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Green versus say NY and Miami's benches should work. Off the top of my head, he should have good matchups there. Help me out Who.
Jeff Green will be particularly useful as a power forward against New York. He'll have a matchup advantage against Jared Jeffries and/or Shawne Williams. He'll also be able to take advantage of NY's only backup wing, Bill Walker.

Keep KG at the five on Amare and put Green out there as a four against Jeffries or Williams and Boston can really nullify NY's usual advantages by going small. 

New York have one, possibly two players, who can defend Jeff Green well. Carmelo Anthony certainly can and Landry Fields is maybe ... although Fields is a bit small to defend Green in the post but he should do just fine otherwise.

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Miami only have one player who can defend Jeff Green and that's LeBron James.

Their backup wings, Mike Miller and James Jones, are too small physically and too vulnerable defensively to matchup against a power three like Jeff Green.

LeBron will likely be playing anywhere from 40-44 minutes a night in that series though so Jeff Green's court time with a matchup advantage could be quite short.

Paul Pierce will be LeBron's principal defensive assignment though so they might be able to free up some more advantageous opportunities for Green by playing him alongside Paul and going big on the wings. That may depend on Green's ability to defend Dwyane Wade which is a question mark to say the least. So it's unclear whether that will work and/or how many minutes they can get out of it if he can't defend Wade. Hard to know.

Jeff Green will be terrific against Miller and/or J.Jones.

Who i think you are dead on with regards to NY.  MY only question with the heat is why didnt we see it on sunday?  Theoretically he should be able to dominate but he didnt.  :(
When Jeff Green attacked Mike Miller in the second quarter, he was very successful -- drawing back to back fouls and hitting 4 FTs.

In the second half, when Green came on as a SF, Miami kept LeBron James on the floor to finish the third quarter + to start the fourth quarter ... which stopped Green from having an advantage and was pretty disappointing because I was hoping to see them go back to Green more in the second half after he showed how successful he could be against Miller. LeBron effectively neutralized Green.

A few minutes later the game was over and they were well and truly into garbage time. I tuned off shortly after that.

Although by the looks of it, James Jones came in and Jeff Green did nothing against him. Not sure why. Maybe Green didn't get the ball or was just going through one of his passive stretches. But that was a matchup J.Green could have taken advantage of.