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Re: Why did Danny trade for Jeff Green?
« Reply #15 on: April 10, 2011, 07:26:13 PM »

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Hmm...i'm not sure if Charlotte put Wallace on the table at the last minute or not, but for some reason i think Ainge traded Perk to OKC not only to acquire Green, but to try and strengthen the Thunder against LA. I know it sounds far fetched, but i'm really starting to wonder about that.

Re: Why did Danny trade for Jeff Green?
« Reply #16 on: April 10, 2011, 07:28:51 PM »

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Hmm...i'm not sure if Charlotte put Wallace on the table at the last minute or not, but for some reason i think Ainge traded Perk to OKC not only to acquire Green, but to try and strengthen the Thunder against LA. I know it sounds far fetched, but i'm really starting to wonder about that.

And hurt us? Naw I can't bye this.

Re: Why did Danny trade for Jeff Green?
« Reply #17 on: April 10, 2011, 07:29:45 PM »

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I just keep scratching my head. Trading for two soft, finesse guys is so Un-Celtics-like.

Re: Why did Danny trade for Jeff Green?
« Reply #18 on: April 10, 2011, 07:30:52 PM »

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Hmm...i'm not sure if Charlotte put Wallace on the table at the last minute or not, but for some reason i think Ainge traded Perk to OKC not only to acquire Green, but to try and strengthen the Thunder against LA. I know it sounds far fetched, but i'm really starting to wonder about that.

And hurt us? Naw I can't bye this.

we played the first half of the season great without Perk, and were the top team in the east. This didn't hurt us, the guys we have here are hurting themselves for some reason

Re: Why did Danny trade for Jeff Green?
« Reply #19 on: April 10, 2011, 07:31:41 PM »

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Because he hoped we would have 3 healthy productive centers by playoff time and we desperately needed an athletic, talented back-up swingman.

The trade made complete sense on paper.  I don't blame Danny for not foreseeing that this team was so mentally and emotionally fragile or that Jeff Green would have such a difficult time finding his place here.
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Re: Why did Danny trade for Jeff Green?
« Reply #20 on: April 10, 2011, 07:32:25 PM »

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Good point about Gerald Wallace to whoever brought it up.

Makes you wonder if the Celts were better off trading for him then Jeff Green.

I've always like Wallace's game and think he would've been better than Jeff Green.

I also think if Charlotte traded him for Przybilla and Cunningham, they would've definitely traded him for Perk and Nate.

The Celts may have had to take Kwame in return too.

Nauseating...I know, but right know I can't imagine Kwame would be any worse than Krstic.

Today was a bad day for me as a Celtics fan.

I hope this was only a temporary setback and not the beginning of the end.

Re: Why did Danny trade for Jeff Green?
« Reply #21 on: April 10, 2011, 07:32:41 PM »

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Because he hoped we would have 3 healthy productive centers by playoff time and we desperately needed an athletic, talented back-up swingman.

The trade made complete sense on paper.  I don't blame Danny for not foreseeing that this team was so mentally and emotionally fragile or that Jeff Green would have such a difficult time finding his place here.

If the team fails miserably in the playoffs Danny is the only person who should be blamed.

Re: Why did Danny trade for Jeff Green?
« Reply #22 on: April 10, 2011, 07:34:18 PM »

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Because he hoped we would have 3 healthy productive centers by playoff time and we desperately needed an athletic, talented back-up swingman.

The trade made complete sense on paper.  I don't blame Danny for not foreseeing that this team was so mentally and emotionally fragile or that Jeff Green would have such a difficult time finding his place here.

If the team fails miserably in the playoffs Danny is the only person who should be blamed.

I don't think so; with all that I've seen since the trade, I think this team would be headed for the same result whether or not the trade had gone down.  I think they might look a little bit better now, but they'd be just as tenuous.
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Re: Why did Danny trade for Jeff Green?
« Reply #23 on: April 10, 2011, 07:36:07 PM »

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Because he hoped we would have 3 healthy productive centers by playoff time and we desperately needed an athletic, talented back-up swingman.

The trade made complete sense on paper.  I don't blame Danny for not foreseeing that this team was so mentally and emotionally fragile or that Jeff Green would have such a difficult time finding his place here.

If the team fails miserably in the playoffs Danny is the only person who should be blamed.

I don't think so; with all that I've seen since the trade, I think this team would be headed for the same result whether or not the trade had gone down.  I think they might look a little bit better now, but they'd be just as tenuous.

How can you say that? How do you know they would not be playing better now if this trade wasn't made, but another was to find a backup 3? Botton line is, Danny put the season on the line when he made the trade. If they fail, he fails.

Re: Why did Danny trade for Jeff Green?
« Reply #24 on: April 10, 2011, 07:37:27 PM »

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Doc Rivers doesn't know how to play Green in a position for Jeff to succeed.



If you want the kid to succeed, it's not going to be playing pf. Probably not playing defense either. He seems to be a ball watcher. So we've got to hide him on defense and let him play sf.
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Re: Why did Danny trade for Jeff Green?
« Reply #25 on: April 10, 2011, 07:38:29 PM »

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Because he hoped we would have 3 healthy productive centers by playoff time and we desperately needed an athletic, talented back-up swingman.

The trade made complete sense on paper.  I don't blame Danny for not foreseeing that this team was so mentally and emotionally fragile or that Jeff Green would have such a difficult time finding his place here.

If the team fails miserably in the playoffs Danny is the only person who should be blamed.

I don't think so; with all that I've seen since the trade, I think this team would be headed for the same result whether or not the trade had gone down.  I think they might look a little bit better now, but they'd be just as tenuous.

How can you say that? How do you know they would not be playing better now if this trade wasn't made, but another was to find a backup 3? Botton line is, Danny put the season on the line when he made the trade. If they fail, he fails.

I don't buy the premise that they wouldn't be failing right now if the trade hadn't been made.  They could possibly be stronger in some areas that they are currently weak, but they'd be weaker in areas they are currently stronger.

I think Danny made a gamble to try and put this team over the top because he saw that what was out there on the floor wasn't going to be enough.  His gamble failed, but I don't think that changes the fact that this team would have been insufficient anyway.
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Re: Why did Danny trade for Jeff Green?
« Reply #26 on: April 10, 2011, 07:39:29 PM »

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Because he hoped we would have 3 healthy productive centers by playoff time and we desperately needed an athletic, talented back-up swingman.

The trade made complete sense on paper.  I don't blame Danny for not foreseeing that this team was so mentally and emotionally fragile or that Jeff Green would have such a difficult time finding his place here.

If the team fails miserably in the playoffs Danny is the only person who should be blamed.

I don't think so; with all that I've seen since the trade, I think this team would be headed for the same result whether or not the trade had gone down.  I think they might look a little bit better now, but they'd be just as tenuous.

How can you say that? How do you know they would not be playing better now if this trade wasn't made, but another was to find a backup 3? Botton line is, Danny put the season on the line when he made the trade. If they fail, he fails.

I don't buy the premise that they wouldn't be failing right now if the trade hadn't been made.  They could possibly be stronger in some areas that they are currently weak, but they'd be weaker in areas they are currently stronger.

I think Danny made a gamble to try and put this team over the top because he saw that what was out there on the floor wasn't going to be enough.  His gamble failed, but I don't think that changes the fact that this team would have been insufficient anyway.

So in what areas are they strong now that they would not have been strong in if the trade had not been made? I can't think of any.

Re: Why did Danny trade for Jeff Green?
« Reply #27 on: April 10, 2011, 07:42:57 PM »

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Because he hoped we would have 3 healthy productive centers by playoff time and we desperately needed an athletic, talented back-up swingman.

The trade made complete sense on paper.  I don't blame Danny for not foreseeing that this team was so mentally and emotionally fragile or that Jeff Green would have such a difficult time finding his place here.
It was enough

If the team fails miserably in the playoffs Danny is the only person who should be blamed.

I don't think so; with all that I've seen since the trade, I think this team would be headed for the same result whether or not the trade had gone down.  I think they might look a little bit better now, but they'd be just as tenuous.

How can you say that? How do you know they would not be playing better now if this trade wasn't made, but another was to find a backup 3? Botton line is, Danny put the season on the line when he made the trade. If they fail, he fails.

I don't buy the premise that they wouldn't be failing right now if the trade hadn't been made.  They could possibly be stronger in some areas that they are currently weak, but they'd be weaker in areas they are currently stronger.

I think Danny made a gamble to try and put this team over the top because he saw that what was out there on the floor wasn't going to be enough.  His gamble failed, but I don't think that changes the fact that this team would have been insufficient anyway.

Re: Why did Danny trade for Jeff Green?
« Reply #28 on: April 10, 2011, 07:45:31 PM »

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Because he hoped we would have 3 healthy productive centers by playoff time and we desperately needed an athletic, talented back-up swingman.

The trade made complete sense on paper.  I don't blame Danny for not foreseeing that this team was so mentally and emotionally fragile or that Jeff Green would have such a difficult time finding his place here.

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Re: Why did Danny trade for Jeff Green?
« Reply #29 on: April 10, 2011, 07:46:32 PM »

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Because he hoped we would have 3 healthy productive centers by playoff time and we desperately needed an athletic, talented back-up swingman.

The trade made complete sense on paper.  I don't blame Danny for not foreseeing that this team was so mentally and emotionally fragile or that Jeff Green would have such a difficult time finding his place here.

If the team fails miserably in the playoffs Danny is the only person who should be blamed.

I don't think so; with all that I've seen since the trade, I think this team would be headed for the same result whether or not the trade had gone down.  I think they might look a little bit better now, but they'd be just as tenuous.

How can you say that? How do you know they would not be playing better now if this trade wasn't made, but another was to find a backup 3? Botton line is, Danny put the season on the line when he made the trade. If they fail, he fails.

I don't buy the premise that they wouldn't be failing right now if the trade hadn't been made.  They could possibly be stronger in some areas that they are currently weak, but they'd be weaker in areas they are currently stronger.

I think Danny made a gamble to try and put this team over the top because he saw that what was out there on the floor wasn't going to be enough.  His gamble failed, but I don't think that changes the fact that this team would have been insufficient anyway.

So in what areas are they strong now that they would not have been strong in if the trade had not been made? I can't think of any.

If the trade hadn't been made, this team would have no real backup small forward.  Marquis was done for the year.  The best we could have gotten on the market was Anthony Parker, a 35 year old shooting guard.  Instead of Arroyo we'd probably still have an injured and ineffective Nate Robinson chucking shots.

We would have gone through a stretch where our only real center was an injured Semih Erden.  I have a hard time believing we wouldn't have had a worse record during that stretch.

Even when Perk came back, that wouldn't have been any guarantee.  Our starting 5 might perform better, but our bench would be considerably worse.  Also, Perk would not help with most of the things that have been killing us lately - inefficient, stagnant offense being the biggest issue.  There's no evidence to suggest that having Perk would make Rondo more aggressive and effective, or Ray more involved and accurate with his jumper.  Having Perk wouldn't make Shaq healthy, either, and I think Shaq's health would be absolutely key to this team even if we had Perk.
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