Why did Danny trade for Jeff Green?

[Roy H.]

I really want to know what that three-way with Golden State was that we pulled out of.  Whatever it was, it couldn't have worked out much worse.

I mean, Jeff Green wants $50 million over 5 years?  Seriously?  For a mediocre scorer who doesn't rebound, defend, or make plays?  I don't hate the guy as much as some on here, and it's not his fault he got traded for Perk, but he's just not star material.

[PosImpos]

I really want to know what that three-way with Golden State was that we pulled out of.  Whatever it was, it couldn't have worked out much worse.

I mean, Jeff Green wants $50 million over 5 years?  Seriously?  For a mediocre scorer who doesn't rebound, defend, or make plays?  I don't hate the guy as much as some on here, and it's not his fault he got traded for Perk, but he's just not star material.

Agreed, he's not worth that kind of money.  Particularly not to a rebuilding team (which is what the Celtics will be after this season or the next).

Honestly, though, I don't think Perk is worth that kind of money, either.  Perk is just as much a limited role player as Green.  I wouldn't give more than 7 or 8 million a year to either.  The only exception I'd make is if Perk or Green were the missing piece to a team that could contend for many years to come.  I think he is probably that for the Thunder, which is why his contract extension makes sense for that team.  I don't think such a contract extension would have made sense for the Celtics moving forward.

[Celtics Fan]

I tell u what you can't compare Perk to Green you want to know why? Perk is tough and green has no toughness! So the trade was horrible.

[Green Hell]

Does anyone even see Jeff Green coming back if we don't win the championship?

What would be the point of keeping him around to sit behind Pierce and KG for another year unless he proves he can be a game changer in the playoffs?

[action781]

Because he hoped we would have 3 healthy productive centers by playoff time and we desperately needed an athletic, talented back-up swingman.

The trade made complete sense on paper.  I don't blame Danny for not foreseeing that this team was so mentally and emotionally fragile or that Jeff Green would have such a difficult time finding his place here.

I agree.  I also agree with what you said later about the misconception that we would be cruising if we hadn't made the trade.  We would have no backup at the wing.  

I personally expect Jeff Green to be a productive player for the Celtics once he finds his groove.  I'll gladly give him a 4/25 extension.

[PosImpos]

Because he hoped we would have 3 healthy productive centers by playoff time and we desperately needed an athletic, talented back-up swingman.

The trade made complete sense on paper.  I don't blame Danny for not foreseeing that this team was so mentally and emotionally fragile or that Jeff Green would have such a difficult time finding his place here.

I agree.  I also agree with what you said later about the misconception that we would be cruising if we hadn't made the trade.  We would have no backup at the wing. 

I personally expect Jeff Green to be a productive player for the Celtics once he finds his groove.  I'll gladly give him a 4/25 extension.

That's the problem, though.  Jeff will want a lot more than 4/25.

[the_Bird]

Because he hoped we would have 3 healthy productive centers by playoff time and we desperately needed an athletic, talented back-up swingman.

The trade made complete sense on paper.  I don't blame Danny for not foreseeing that this team was so mentally and emotionally fragile or that Jeff Green would have such a difficult time finding his place here.

I agree.  I also agree with what you said later about the misconception that we would be cruising if we hadn't made the trade.  We would have no backup at the wing.  

I personally expect Jeff Green to be a productive player for the Celtics once he finds his groove.  I'll gladly give him a 4/25 extension.

That's the problem, though.  Jeff will want a lot more than 4/25.

I think so, too.  I threw that number out there earlier, but I'm not optimistic that it's a realistic figure; I'm thinking, based on what we saw with guys like Travis Outlaw and Mike Miller and JJ Reddick, you're looking at five guaranteed seasons and somewhere between $35M and $45M.  

Even that lower figure I tossed out, though...  Even if that WAS to be his marker value, I don't see it as being worthwhile, since Green has proven here (and, to a large extend at Oklahoma City) that he's not really a "build around this guy" kind of talent and signing him to ANYTHING other than the qualifying offer is going to kill any hope of cap space after next season.  

With the dollars being equal, Green has no incentive to re-sign here anyway.  With all of his mediocrity, SOME team views him as a 30-35MPG starter, and here in Boston there's no chance he starts as long as Pierce is in town (and he clearly doesn't want to be playing PF, not that KG is going anywhere either).

[RedsCeltics34]

Jeff is a good player & even after whats been happening I still believe hes the best player in the deal. Doc doesnt use him the right way or with the right lineups. I wonder if deep down Danny is getting frustrated how Doc is using Green? And how littles he is using Green, because it is making Danny look REAL bad.

Maybe the Celtics dont miss Perk, Maybe its Nate we miss

[Onslaught]

Jeff is a good player & even after whats been happening I still believe hes the best player in the deal. Doc doesnt use him the right way or with the right lineups. I wonder if deep down Danny is getting frustrated how Doc is using Green? And how littles he is using Green, because it is making Danny look REAL bad.

Maybe the Celtics dont miss Perk, Maybe its Nate we miss

Oh, Danny looks bad because of Danny. He's the one who did this to the team.
Well, people getting hurt did this . Danny just cut the head off to cure the wound.

[Fan from VT]

Jeff is a good player & even after whats been happening I still believe hes the best player in the deal. Doc doesnt use him the right way or with the right lineups. I wonder if deep down Danny is getting frustrated how Doc is using Green? And how littles he is using Green, because it is making Danny look REAL bad.

Maybe the Celtics dont miss Perk, Maybe its Nate we miss

On two very different teams, playing different roles and with different players, Green has yet to impress and people seem to always chalk it up to "being used incorrectly."

Maybe there's no correct way to use him well?

[screwedupmaniac]

He apparently thought that Green could make an effective and immediate transition from PF to SF. He was mistaken. I might not feel so bad about this trade if it wasn't for the fact that Doc feels obligated to play Baby 30 minutes a game. Play Green at PF more 

[letsgoblue86]

he didn't expect jeff green to attempt 1 shot in a game and glen davis take 11 and make 3.  I think it really comes down to baby's selfishness.  Baby needs to realize that he's not the number 1 option on the second unit and he needs to give it up.

[vinnie]

I still wish I could understand why people seem to think Jeff Green was the only guy available that the Celts could get to back up Pierce.

[RedsCeltics34]

I feel like throwing up when I see Davis and Green on the floor together.. Its almost like Davis doesnt want Green to take his spot, they dont work well together AT ALL.... And notice how at the end of the shot clock the ball ALWAYS seems to find its way to Glen Davis for a jumper? Really frustrating.

[soap07]

I still wish I could understand why people seem to think Jeff Green was the only guy available that the Celts could get to back up Pierce.

I'm interested in the alternatives.


Anthony Parker? Jamario Moon? Think we're complaining now?