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Re: Official Discuss your CB Draft team
« Reply #495 on: August 25, 2010, 03:49:03 PM »

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Agreed -- or maybe switch Duhon with Stuckey and use Stuckey as a sixth man.

Shane Battier + Rudy Gay should start on the wings.
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Re: Official Discuss your CB Draft team
« Reply #496 on: August 25, 2010, 03:49:55 PM »

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Thoughts:

Guards: Duhon, Stuckey, Price, Head
Forwards: Amar'e, Gay, Battier , Tolliver
Center: Okafor, Blair

Blair, while undersized, is a beast in the paint. I like his energy behind Okafor.

Very thin at guard. Price is mending a knee injury, and Head has bounced around the league at an alarming rate for such a young player.

With Gay at SF, Battier forced to the bench. I'd look to trade him to upgrade at starting PG, or for depth. Not sure what can be expected from Price, Head, or Tolliver if any of them are forced into the rotation.
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Re: Official Discuss your CB Draft team
« Reply #497 on: August 25, 2010, 03:50:47 PM »

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I agree with most your points. You are undervaluing Josh Smith though. How many times has he played with an elite pg? 0. Will he take less ill advised shots playing with Deron Williams than Bibby? Absolutely. Playing next to Deron I expect Smith to have Amare type numbers on offense (a little lower but in the same area). Do you think Amare would average those numbers without Nash? Josh Smith is every bit as athletic as Amare. Amare is a much better shooter, but Smith can make up for those points in offensive rebound put backs. On the back line Smith and Haywood will make people afraid to go in the paint. Then McGee will come in and continue the block party.

Although I think good play from Beaubois puts me in the top spots, the play that I will get from Smith (who is only 24 and should get better) makes my floor 2nd place in the division.

I think comparing Josh Smith to AMare is a battle you'll eventually lose. Amare is 6'10, and a center in small ball, a 4 naturally. Smith is a 3/4, always. He's never comfortable anywhere 100%, and he brings different strengths and weaknesses to both positions. I think he's more 4 than 3, but his total lack of post game will always limit his production. Josh Smith didn't play with a top tier pg in Bibby, but he did play with an elite SG in Joe Johnson, and as a SG, Joe is also an elite ball handler.

Also, while I think Deron WIlliams is the most talented PG out there, he's no steve nash when it comes to passing the ball. Steve Nash is like Josh Smith...you can't quite compare him to anyone else in the league, and all you can really say is "whatever issues you have with him as a player, he gives much more to the team than he hurts"
Joe Johnson is not a creator like Beron Williams.
Josh Smith is an inch shorter than Amare.
He is only 24 and still has plenty of time to develop a back to the basket game.

This quote is a pessimistic view of him. That is all you can really say if you are not a fan of his. I don't know how you can say that he simply gives more than he takes away.

According to basketballreference.com's defensive rating metric he was the 10th best defensive player in the league last year, while shooting 50.5% from the floor (a number that has went up every year since his second year in the league).
Although he did have less points this year he barely took any 3's and took the ball to the rack. He had career highs in field goal % rebounding and assists. Since he's only 24 you can expect the numbers to increase.
Is he the scorer Amare is? No. Could he be close if he had been playing with Nash his entire career? I think so. As a first option you'd rather have Amare because he can create for himself and shoot better. As a second option I'd rather have Smith, because he does everything better by a considerable margin.
I can not understand this hate of Josh Smith on the board. (not directed at you IP but the board in general).
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Re: Official Discuss your CB Draft team
« Reply #498 on: August 25, 2010, 03:51:53 PM »

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Re: Official Discuss your CB Draft team
« Reply #499 on: August 25, 2010, 03:54:56 PM »

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Thoughts:

Guards: Duhon, Stuckey, Price, Head
Forwards: Amar'e, Gay, Battier , Tolliver
Center: Okafor, Blair

Blair, while undersized, is a beast in the paint. I like his energy behind Okafor.

Very thin at guard. Price is mending a knee injury, and Head has bounced around the league at an alarming rate for such a young player.

With Gay at SF, Battier forced to the bench. I'd look to trade him to upgrade at starting PG, or for depth. Not sure what can be expected from Price, Head, or Tolliver if any of them are forced into the rotation.


Tolliver was a productive player at both the C and PF last year. Luther has bounced around so much because he's a useful player so he often is tagged on to bigger deals. IF Price is in the rotation, I think it's fair to expect his 7ppg with 2 1.5 assts, same with head. When Tolliver plays I think you can expect a PF with range to free up Blair.

I think Battier has to come off the bench to maximize his utility as he is getting up there in years.

I think Duhon is a nice PG next to Stuckey because he doesn't demand or need the ball and can play off Rodney.

Re: Official Discuss your CB Draft team
« Reply #500 on: August 25, 2010, 03:55:48 PM »

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Because I hate duhon and because Gay can play the 2.

It's like you don't even study my posts.

Cliffnotes: He didn't last season and he shouldn't start now.

Re: Official Discuss your CB Draft team
« Reply #501 on: August 25, 2010, 03:59:34 PM »

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Because I hate duhon and because Gay can play the 2.

It's like you don't even study my posts.

Cliffnotes: He didn't last season and he shouldn't start now.

Trust me, man. I can relate. I finished a brilliant post ranking everyone 1-31 in this league and then IP's gotta steal my thunder with "actual analysis" of the divisions.

Re: Official Discuss your CB Draft team
« Reply #502 on: August 25, 2010, 04:01:41 PM »

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PG: Jason Terry, Ty Lawson
SG: Joe Johnson, Mike Dunleavy, Roger Mason
SF: Vince Carter/Andrei Kirilenko
PF: Lamarcus Aldridge, Amir Johnson
C: Andris Biedrins, Cole Aldrich, Nikola Pekovic

With a smaller, scoring lineup of Terry/Johnson/Carter/Kirilenko/Aldridge likely. Thoughts? Hate it? Love it? Want to punch half my players in their stupid faces? Feedback is appreciated going into trade season, for sure.
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Re: Official Discuss your CB Draft team
« Reply #503 on: August 25, 2010, 04:03:33 PM »

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Because I hate duhon and because Gay can play the 2.

It's like you don't even study my posts.

Cliffnotes: He didn't last season and he shouldn't start now.

Not for Memphis, not with OJ Mayo there.

on KC's team I think Rudy Gay at the 2 is a much better option than Stuckey OR Duhon.


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Re: Official Discuss your CB Draft team
« Reply #504 on: August 25, 2010, 04:05:15 PM »

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Nashville Magic:

PG: Jason Terry, Ty Lawson
SG: Joe Johnson, Mike Dunleavy, Roger Mason
SF: Vince Carter/Andrei Kirilenko
PF: Lamarcus Aldridge, Amir Johnson
C: Andris Biedrins, Cole Aldrich, Nikola Pekovic

With a smaller, scoring lineup of Terry/Johnson/Carter/Kirilenko/Aldridge likely. Thoughts? Hate it? Love it? Want to punch half my players in their stupid faces? Feedback is appreciated going into trade season, for sure.

In my opinion, starting Ak47 over Vince Carter is a no-brainer.

Re: Official Discuss your CB Draft team
« Reply #505 on: August 25, 2010, 04:07:11 PM »

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I'm curious where people think this team would finish in the West:

Dampier / Bargnani
Boozer / Jeffries
Lewis / Jefferson
Garcia / C. Bell
Rose

Also, any of the above are available in trade.


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Re: Official Discuss your CB Draft team
« Reply #506 on: August 25, 2010, 04:07:22 PM »

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Sg:Rush, JR Smith, Jordan Crawford Murray
SF: Webster, Ebanks
PF:Landry Juwan Howard
C:Bogut Nazr Mohammad

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Re: Official Discuss your CB Draft team
« Reply #507 on: August 25, 2010, 04:10:41 PM »

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Nashville Magic:

PG: Jason Terry, Ty Lawson
SG: Joe Johnson, Mike Dunleavy, Roger Mason
SF: Vince Carter/Andrei Kirilenko
PF: Lamarcus Aldridge, Amir Johnson
C: Andris Biedrins, Cole Aldrich, Nikola Pekovic

With a smaller, scoring lineup of Terry/Johnson/Carter/Kirilenko/Aldridge likely. Thoughts? Hate it? Love it? Want to punch half my players in their stupid faces? Feedback is appreciated going into trade season, for sure.

I may have suggested that small-ball lineup further back in the thread. On further reflection, I'm not so sure about LMA at the 5. Didn't play a whole lot there last year for a Portland team that, eventually, elected to go with Juwan Howard at C. That may be something of an indictment of Aldridge's abilities to defend and rebound against quality bigs.

Then again, maybe Aldridge could go there, what do I know?
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Re: Official Discuss your CB Draft team
« Reply #508 on: August 25, 2010, 04:11:21 PM »

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Nashville Magic:

PG: Jason Terry, Ty Lawson
SG: Joe Johnson, Mike Dunleavy, Roger Mason
SF: Vince Carter/Andrei Kirilenko
PF: Lamarcus Aldridge, Amir Johnson
C: Andris Biedrins, Cole Aldrich, Nikola Pekovic

With a smaller, scoring lineup of Terry/Johnson/Carter/Kirilenko/Aldridge likely. Thoughts? Hate it? Love it? Want to punch half my players in their stupid faces? Feedback is appreciated going into trade season, for sure.

In my opinion, starting Ak47 over Vince Carter is a no-brainer.

What about Dunleavy at the 3?

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Re: Official Discuss your CB Draft team
« Reply #509 on: August 25, 2010, 04:12:53 PM »

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how is my team shaping up?
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