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[The Walker Wiggle]

I think the idea that a guy who is a 20 ppg scorer at the sf couldn't play sg, even though he tended to guard the other team's best wing scorer, is silly.

Ok, but we can agree that he didn't play at the 2?

We can agree that he didn't but I think he can.

I'm still skeptical even if we agree to call his defense average-to-improving. (I'll certainly admit he's disruptive; and you've watched a lot more Grizzlies games than I have.) Here's why:

He becomes a shooting guard who doesn't shoot well from distance (and who already settles for too many outside shots given his ability to get to the rim) and an unwilling, uncreative passer next to either border-line starter Chris Duhon or scoring point-guard Rodney Stuckey. (His assist ratio of 8.6% ranks him 56th out small forwards who played meaningful minutes.)

What's the compelling reason to move Gay from the position he's most effective at, following his bounce back season? I know he's explosive but does he make sense chasing quicker shooters around the three point line night-in and night-out? Shouldn't he be around the rim where he's at his best?

[Gainesville Celtic]

DENVER NUGGETS:

PG - Russell Westbrook
SG - Ronnie Brewer
SF - Trevor Ariza
PF - Drew Gooden
C - Tim Duncan

Bench: Taj Gibson, Josh Childress, Terrance Williams, Rasual Butler, Darko Milicic, Shawn Livingston, 12.20, 13.3

Coach: Larry Brown


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-- Well-above-average-to-elite defenders at the 1,2,3 & 5 starting spots
-- Natural-born leader and superstar in Tim Duncan
-- Emerging stars/"robins-to-Duncan's-Batman" in Westbrook, Ariza

we'll take our chances in the West.

Looking at your starting lineup, I thought of that song from Sesame Street, "One of These Things Doesn't Belong Here".  Four great defenders, and Gooden.

Anyway, your team's biggest weakness right now has got to be shooting, right?  Only Ariza has legit range, and he's very sporadic.  Because of that, your team is a little easier to defend than it might be.

Haha, yeah that'll be our theme song during intros! We have 4 great defenders.... i'm curious if any other team has 3  

Shooters, yeah. Remember we were building with Arenas and Deng...

But Rasual Butler is a legit 3-point threat (1.8/gm last year; 1.3/gm for his career; career 36% 3-pt shooter). For a bench guy that's fine. (Eddie House shot 34% last year, career 39% for comparison's sake).

[Rondo2287]

DENVER NUGGETS:

PG - Russell Westbrook
SG - Ronnie Brewer
SF - Trevor Ariza
PF - Drew Gooden
C - Tim Duncan

Bench: Taj Gibson, Josh Childress, Terrance Williams, Rasual Butler, Darko Milicic, Shawn Livingston, 12.20, 13.3

Coach: Larry Brown


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-- Well-above-average-to-elite defenders at the 1,2,3 & 5 starting spots
-- Natural-born leader and superstar in Tim Duncan
-- Emerging stars/"robins-to-Duncan's-Batman" in Westbrook, Ariza

we'll take our chances in the West.

Looking at your starting lineup, I thought of that song from Sesame Street, "One of These Things Doesn't Belong Here".  Four great defenders, and Gooden.

Anyway, your team's biggest weakness right now has got to be shooting, right?  Only Ariza has legit range, and he's very sporadic.  Because of that, your team is a little easier to defend than it might be.

CAn Livingston still not throw a pebble in the ocean? Not trying to be difficult GC.. Just havent watched him since he went down for the clippers.  He on his way to becoming one of the top pg's in the game too.  Really a shame, probably should have gone to duke and learned under coach k for a while.  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsCPE96gdK0

[The Walker Wiggle]

Haha, yeah that'll be our theme song during intros! We have 4 great defenders.... i'm curious if any other team has 3  

Wallace, Horford, Holiday?

And Hobbs is being kind in knocking Denver's shooting - a starting five that shoots below 30% from behind the arc? (The league average is 35%.) A starting five with only one player - center Tim Duncan - shooting above the league average (40%) from 10-15 feet?

To repeat, Tim Duncan is the best shooter in the starting line-up?

[Roy H.]

Haha, yeah that'll be our theme song during intros! We have 4 great defenders.... i'm curious if any other team has 3  

Wallace, Horford, Holiday?

And Hobbs is being kind in knocking Denver's shooting - a starting five that shoots below 30% from behind the arc? (The league average is 35%.) A starting five with only one player - center Tim Duncan - shooting above the league average from 10-15 feet (40%)?

The unfortunate part for GC is that outside of the one-dimensional Butler, the shooting on the bench doesn't really improve.  Still, I expect some changes will be made.

[riah32]

Celtics are looking pretty good I think and i got some picks in the 10th 11th and 12 tp try to add some hiding talent.

pg:Rondo, Bynum
Sg:Rush, Smith
SF Outlaw
PF:Landry
C:Bogut, Mohammad

[The Walker Wiggle]

The unfortunate part for GC is that outside of the one-dimensional Butler, the shooting on the bench doesn't really improve.  Still, I expect some changes will be made.

And I'm skeptical Butler is the solution - although he's a player I like and I wouldn't call him one-dimensional - he's thirty-one, shot 41% from the field mostly taking long twos, and only 33% from behind the arc last season.

I do love almost every player on the Nuggets roster - with the exception of two or three - just not the offensive game plan, or lack there-of.

[Rondo2287]

your soon to be Central Division Champs!

Milwaukee Bucks

PG:Jason Kidd/Jarret Jack
SG:Rip Hamilton/CJ Miles
SF:Tayshaun Prince/Matt Barnes
PF: Dirk Nowitzki
C: Marcin Gortat/Ronny Turiaf

No thoughts on the Bucks?

[Gainesville Celtic]

DENVER NUGGETS:

PG - Russell Westbrook
SG - Ronnie Brewer
SF - Trevor Ariza
PF - Drew Gooden
C - Tim Duncan

Bench: Taj Gibson, Josh Childress, Terrance Williams, Rasual Butler, Darko Milicic, Shawn Livingston, 12.20, 13.3

Coach: Larry Brown


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-- Well-above-average-to-elite defenders at the 1,2,3 & 5 starting spots
-- Natural-born leader and superstar in Tim Duncan
-- Emerging stars/"robins-to-Duncan's-Batman" in Westbrook, Ariza

we'll take our chances in the West.

Looking at your starting lineup, I thought of that song from Sesame Street, "One of These Things Doesn't Belong Here".  Four great defenders, and Gooden.

Anyway, your team's biggest weakness right now has got to be shooting, right?  Only Ariza has legit range, and he's very sporadic.  Because of that, your team is a little easier to defend than it might be.

CAn Livingston still not throw a pebble in the ocean? Not trying to be difficult GC.. Just havent watched him since he went down for the clippers.  He on his way to becoming one of the top pg's in the game too.  Really a shame, probably should have gone to duke and learned under coach k for a while.  

small sample size, but he was actually very good for the Wizards the last 2 months of the season (and turned it into a deal with CHA!)
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/l/livinsh01/splits/2010/

[wdleehi]

The Pistons as of today

Head Coach Patrick Ewing

Pg Wall
SG Azubuike
SF Marvin Williams
PF Al Jefferson
C  Hibbert

Bench
6th man: SG Ben Gordon
PG Bibby
PF/C Ryan Andersen
PF/C Larry Sanders

[KCattheStripe]

I think the idea that a guy who is a 20 ppg scorer at the sf couldn't play sg, even though he tended to guard the other team's best wing scorer, is silly.

Ok, but we can agree that he didn't play at the 2?

We can agree that he didn't but I think he can.

I'm still skeptical even if we agree to call his defense average-to-improving. (I'll certainly admit he's disruptive; and you've watched a lot more Grizzlies games than I have.) Here's why:

He becomes a shooting guard who doesn't shoot well from distance (and who already settles for too many outside shots given his ability to get to the rim) and an unwilling, uncreative passer next to either border-line starter Chris Duhon or scoring point-guard Rodney Stuckey. (His assist ratio of 8.6% ranks him 56th out small forwards who played meaningful minutes.)

What's the compelling reason to move Gay from the position he's most effective at, following his bounce back season? I know he's explosive but does he make sense chasing quicker shooters around the three point line night-in and night-out? Shouldn't he be around the rim where he's at his best?

The point is to keep Stuckey on the bench to provide some pop, but I agree that it may not be worth it.

[The Walker Wiggle]

DENVER NUGGETS:

PG - Russell Westbrook
SG - Ronnie Brewer
SF - Trevor Ariza
PF - Drew Gooden
C - Tim Duncan

Bench: Taj Gibson, Josh Childress, Terrance Williams, Rasual Butler, Darko Milicic, Shaun Livingston, 12.20, 13.3

Coach: Larry Brown

While I've thus far been focusing my attention on teams who's GMs were good enough to provide the Bucs with feedback, I worry I've been critical of Denver's flaws without otherwise giving the team its due.

So: the recently ransomed Duncan has yet to miss the playoffs, leads by example, and is on any given night still the best big man in the league. He'll have to shoulder more of the scoring burden in Denver; but his passing means easy baskets for the team's surfeit of great off-the-ball wings.

Nuggets will also thrive in transition with so many hard running finishers. And should play stifling defense featuring a pair of long-armed point guards and five? six? (!) swingmen filling the passing lanes, all capable of guarding multiple positions allowing Denver to switch at its pleasure.

Gooden also isn't so out of place, while he's notorious for being unaware and out of position (seemingly wearing out his welcome at every stop) he's also strong, a willing rebounder, and a solid man-to-man defender down low.

[The Walker Wiggle]

The point is to keep Stuckey on the bench to provide some pop, but I agree that it may not be worth it.

Stuckey may in fact be ideally suited for a role as first guard of the bench, giving the Sonics scoring from either the 1 or 2 as needed. But I suspect I never the less prefer him to Duhon.

That said, Duhon is adept at running the 1-5 pick and roll.

[Gainesville Celtic]

DENVER NUGGETS:

PG - Russell Westbrook
SG - Ronnie Brewer
SF - Trevor Ariza
PF - Drew Gooden
C - Tim Duncan

Bench: Taj Gibson, Josh Childress, Terrance Williams, Rasual Butler, Darko Milicic, Shaun Livingston, 12.20, 13.3

Coach: Larry Brown

While I've thus far been focusing my attention on teams who's GMs were good enough to provide the Bucs with feedback, I worry I've been critical of Denver's flaws without otherwise giving the team its due.

So: the recently ransomed Duncan has yet to miss the playoffs, leads by example, and is on any given night still the best big man in the league. He'll have to shoulder more of the scoring burden in Denver; but his passing means easy baskets for the team's surfeit of great off-the-ball wings.

Nuggets will also thrive in transition with so many hard running finishers. And should play stifling defense featuring a pair of long-armed point guards and five? six? (!) swingmen filling the passing lanes, all capable of guarding multiple positions allowing Denver to switch at its pleasure.

Gooden also isn't so out of place, while he's notorious for being unaware and out of position (seemingly wearing out his welcome at every stop) he's also strong, a willing rebounder, and a solid man-to-man defender down low.

Here's a TP for the kind words... and the good idea:

DEN will simply play 6 swingmen + Duncan and Westbrook at one time. We'll be UNSTOPABLE! 

Defense wins championships... Denver plays for Championships!
Win-win-win.

[The Walker Wiggle]

Ha. Well, I'd meant the team has options and fresh legs.

Also, am I the only one who prefers Childress to either Brewer or Ariza?