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Re: Official Discuss your CB Draft team
« Reply #375 on: August 24, 2010, 05:28:04 PM »

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PG - Devin Harris
SG - James Harden/Dahntay Jones
SF - Ron Artest/Chris Douglas-Roberts
PF - Chris Bosh
 C - Serge Ibaka/Chuck Hayes

Thoughts?  I think my team will be very tough defensively.  I know I need another shooter.  But CDR is not a bad wing scorer off the bench.  I think my pecking order is quite clear  with Bosh-Harris-Harden being the foundation.  Probably could use another shooter.

Clearly Ron Ron is a bit of a headcase but he is still an elite wing defender, can score a bit (though erratically). Ibaka is an upside pick. He is already a good shot blocker and defender.  I think his game will certainly improve next year.  Especially in transition.  

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Re: Official Discuss your CB Draft team
« Reply #376 on: August 24, 2010, 05:29:26 PM »

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Thoughts on my team now that I have a bench coming together?

Coach: Avery Johnson

PG: George Hill / Nate Robinson
SG: Dwyane Wade /               
SF: Grant Hill / Paul George
PF: Kenyon Martin /
C:  Greg Oden / Kurt Thomas

I like D Wade and Hill in the backcourt.  Upfront you are old and injury prone.  If Oden stays healthy and can live up to potential you have a great team.  If he is what he has been for the last 3 years you are in trouble

Re: Official Discuss your CB Draft team
« Reply #377 on: August 24, 2010, 05:29:47 PM »

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Ok Rip me apart....

PG Jamal Crawford Eric Bledsoe, CJ Watson
SG Courtney Lee
SF Boris Diaw
PF Blake Griffin , Tyler Hansbrough
C Zach Randolph

I know my lack of a veteran point guard is an issue and i really would like to get another option at Center as well.
« Last Edit: August 24, 2010, 05:38:25 PM by greenteam17 »

Re: Official Discuss your CB Draft team
« Reply #378 on: August 24, 2010, 05:30:52 PM »

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Re: Official Discuss your CB Draft team
« Reply #379 on: August 24, 2010, 05:32:56 PM »

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Ok Rip me apart....

PG Eric Bledsoe, CJ Watson
SG Jamal Crawford, Courtney Lee
SF Blake Griffin
PF Boris Diaw, Tyler Hansbrough
C Zach Randolph

I know my lack of a veteran point guard is an issue and i really would like to get another option at Center as well.

Blake Griffin is not a SF and can't be expected to guard any.  Your front court defense will be atrocious.  Bledsoe is a rookie and not a point guard.  You are better off starting C. Lee and letting Crawford score off the bench.  I'm not familiar with CJ Watson, but as a shooter he will space the floor for you.

Zack Randolph is a solid player but he isnt a center, and will get eaten alive down there.  I'd try and make some moves to improve your roster via trade, as difference makers are hard to come by at this point in the draft

Re: Official Discuss your CB Draft team
« Reply #380 on: August 24, 2010, 05:33:34 PM »

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The Supersonics pose a question to the league:

Should they Start Stuckey at the 1, 2 or bring him off the bench as a sixth man?

Full roster? Sig seems outdated.
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Re: Official Discuss your CB Draft team
« Reply #381 on: August 24, 2010, 05:35:13 PM »

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The Supersonics pose a question to the league:

Should they Start Stuckey at the 1, 2 or bring him off the bench as a sixth man?

Full roster? Sig seems outdated.


Guards: Duhon Gay, Stuckey
Forwards: Amar'e, Battier, Tolliver
Centerss: Okafor , Blair.

Re: Official Discuss your CB Draft team
« Reply #382 on: August 24, 2010, 05:36:12 PM »

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PG - Devin Harris
SG - James Harden/Dahntay Jones
SF - Ron Artest/Chris Douglas-Roberts
PF - Chris Bosh
 C - Serge Ibaka/Chuck Hayes

Thoughts?  I think my team will be very tough defensively.  I know I need another shooter.  But CDR is not a bad wing scorer off the bench.  I think my pecking order is quite clear  with Bosh-Harris-Harden being the foundation.  Probably could use another shooter.

Clearly Ron Ron is a bit of a headcase but he is still an elite wing defender, can score a bit (though erratically). Ibaka is an upside pick. He is already a good shot blocker and defender.  I think his game will certainly improve next year.  Especially in transition.  

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Front line defense looks good. Are Harris and Harden good defenders though?

I know Hayes has played C before, but I'd like to see another option there at the backup.

Bosh is going to have to be especially vocal and assume leadership of this team. You've got the wildcard Artest, and now added CDR, who wore out his welcome in New Jersey in a New York minute.
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Re: Official Discuss your CB Draft team
« Reply #383 on: August 24, 2010, 05:37:58 PM »

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The Supersonics pose a question to the league:

Should they Start Stuckey at the 1, 2 or bring him off the bench as a sixth man?

Full roster? Sig seems outdated.


Guards: Duhon Gay, Stuckey
Forwards: Amar'e, Battier, Tolliver
Centerss: Okafor , Blair.


I think I bring him off the bench. Duhon can/should distribute to Gay and Amare, and keep them happy with touches.

You'll need Stuckey's scoring punch off the bench, I think.

Isn't Gay more SF than SG? Maybe you do start Stuckey. But then Battier is on the bench.
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Re: Official Discuss your CB Draft team
« Reply #384 on: August 24, 2010, 05:39:23 PM »

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PG - Devin Harris
SG - James Harden/Dahntay Jones
SF - Ron Artest/Chris Douglas-Roberts
PF - Chris Bosh
 C - Serge Ibaka/Chuck Hayes

Thoughts?  I think my team will be very tough defensively.  I know I need another shooter.  But CDR is not a bad wing scorer off the bench.  I think my pecking order is quite clear  with Bosh-Harris-Harden being the foundation.  Probably could use another shooter.

Clearly Ron Ron is a bit of a headcase but he is still an elite wing defender, can score a bit (though erratically). Ibaka is an upside pick. He is already a good shot blocker and defender.  I think his game will certainly improve next year.  Especially in transition.  

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Front line defense looks good. Are Harris and Harden good defenders though?

I know Hayes has played C before, but I'd like to see another option there at the backup.

Bosh is going to have to be especially vocal and assume leadership of this team. You've got the wildcard Artest, and now added CDR, who wore out his welcome in New Jersey in a New York minute.

No neither are great.  But Dahntay Jones is a good defender off the bench.  More scoring is certainly needed

Re: Official Discuss your CB Draft team
« Reply #385 on: August 24, 2010, 05:47:59 PM »

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The Supersonics pose a question to the league:

Should they Start Stuckey at the 1, 2 or bring him off the bench as a sixth man?

Full roster? Sig seems outdated.


Guards: Duhon Gay, Stuckey
Forwards: Amar'e, Battier, Tolliver
Centerss: Okafor , Blair.


I think I bring him off the bench. Duhon can/should distribute to Gay and Amare, and keep them happy with touches.

You'll need Stuckey's scoring punch off the bench, I think.

Isn't Gay more SF than SG? Maybe you do start Stuckey. But then Battier is on the bench.

TP.

Gay was at the 2 so Stuckey would provide scoring off the bench. However, I can see the argument to put Stuckey at the 2 and have Battier come off the bench but that leaves me with my best bench scorer being Tolliver and that scares me.

Re: Official Discuss your CB Draft team
« Reply #386 on: August 24, 2010, 05:48:12 PM »

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What's with the trend of playing 3s as 2s out West? Rudy Gay is far more a 4 than he is a 2 at this point.
If one has the handles to play SF in today's NBA they have the handles to play 2.

You guys read this too?

Viva la Positional Revolucion, huh? Where were you guys when I was starting Anthony Randolph at center just like Don Nelson told me to?

Still fact remains that even if Kobe Bryant would start Rudy Gay at shooting guard, he didn't play at the 2 last season. He played the 3 and sometimes the 4.

And while the Lakers may have a power forward who initiates the offense or a two guard setting screens you rarely saw four wing players and a point guard out on the floor together or three combo guards and a pair of stretch fours. Whatever their roles, Gasol, Artest, Bynum, Bryant, Fisher reads in the boxscore like a traditional starting five. And the teams (Golden State, New York...) that did run out five 6'7" players with Maggette at the 4 or Gallinari at the 2 lost a lot.

Re: Official Discuss your CB Draft team
« Reply #387 on: August 24, 2010, 05:55:14 PM »

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What's with the trend of playing 3s as 2s out West? Rudy Gay is far more a 4 than he is a 2 at this point.
If one has the handles to play SF in today's NBA they have the handles to play 2.

You guys read this too?

Viva la Positional Revolucion, huh? Where were you guys when I was starting Anthony Randolph at center just like Don Nelson told me to?

Still fact remains that even if Kobe Bryant would start Rudy Gay at shooting guard, he didn't play at the 2 last season. He played the 3 and sometimes the 4.

And while the Lakers may have a power forward who initiates the offense or a two guard setting screens you rarely saw four wing players and a point guard out on the floor together or three combo guards and a pair of stretch fours. Whatever their roles, Gasol, Artest, Bynum, Bryant, Fisher reads in the boxscore like a traditional starting five. And the teams (Golden State, New York...) that did run out five 6'7" players with Maggette at the 4 or Gallinari at the 2 lost a lot.

I think the idea that a guy who is a 20 ppg scorer at the sf couldn't play sg, even though he tended to guard the other team's best wing scorer,  is silly.

Re: Official Discuss your CB Draft team
« Reply #388 on: August 24, 2010, 06:08:17 PM »

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I think the idea that a guy who is a 20 ppg scorer at the sf couldn't play sg, even though he tended to guard the other team's best wing scorer, is silly.

Ok, but we can agree that he didn't play at the 2? And since the Grizzlies won via offense and the team's defense was awful (23rd worst defensive efficiency in the league) how much of that is Gay's fault?

Here's what John Hollinger says:

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Gay is 6-9 with long arms and good leaping ability, so he should be an excellent defensive player. Instead, he's terrible, as his effort level fails to rival his talent level. His size grants him an edge in challenging shots and he'll pick up blocks and steals. However, he tends to give up as soon as he hits a screen, especially off the ball, and opponents beat him off the dribble much more easily than one would expect. Additionally, he's an unmotivated help defender who usually just hangs out on the weak side. The proof is in the pudding: The Grizzlies allowed 9.3 points more per 100 possessions with him on the court, even worse than his 8.0 differential from a year earlier.

Re: Official Discuss your CB Draft team
« Reply #389 on: August 24, 2010, 06:16:21 PM »

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I think the idea that a guy who is a 20 ppg scorer at the sf couldn't play sg, even though he tended to guard the other team's best wing scorer, is silly.

Ok, but we can agree that he didn't play at the 2? And since the Grizzlies won via offense and the team's defense was awful (23rd worst defensive efficiency in the league) how much of that is Gay's fault?

Here's what John Hollinger says:

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Gay is 6-9 with long arms and good leaping ability, so he should be an excellent defensive player. Instead, he's terrible, as his effort level fails to rival his talent level. His size grants him an edge in challenging shots and he'll pick up blocks and steals. However, he tends to give up as soon as he hits a screen, especially off the ball, and opponents beat him off the dribble much more easily than one would expect. Additionally, he's an unmotivated help defender who usually just hangs out on the weak side. The proof is in the pudding: The Grizzlies allowed 9.3 points more per 100 possessions with him on the court, even worse than his 8.0 differential from a year earlier.

We can agree that he didn't but I think he can.

I'm curious when this analysis is from. However, the only stat that he brings is points on the floor, seeing as how he was a starter with the Grizz along with ZBo and Mayo and Conley, not all of that is Gays fault. IK disagree with Hollinger's eyes analysis and thats from watching primarily Grizz ball when I lived in Memphis these past two years.