Press Conference Schedule is Up! 2010 Celticsblog Draft: Draft Board

[StartOrien]

Phoenix looking to move up a little from the 5.17. Willing to swap picks in other rounds, but not any more.

[Celtic Fan Forever]

Feeling their squad needed defense and a steady hand the Supersonics select:

Shane Battier

Love the pick. Adding some much needed veteran leadership to your young team.

[Roy H.]

I am pretty pumped about getting Rip Hamilton at this spot. 

He had an off shooting year last year but is upgrade defensively from Ray Allen and i was also able to pick up another early 7th rounder.  But even in his off shooting year he averaged 18 points and 4 assists per game

I'm surprised to hear this from a Celtics fan, I guess.  Ray's regular season defense was mediocre, as the whole team took it easy.  However, in the playoffs his defense was top-notch, especially against Kobe.

Ray's defense was worse than mediocre during the regular season. Below average. It was very good to excellent in the playoffs though.

The gap between the two makes me nervous, uncomfortable and uncertain of what to expect from Ray Allen defensively next season. Of how much one can depend on him.

Ray's defense dipped to below average during the team's slump, in around January and February.  However, at the beginning of the season it was good, and certainly in the playoffs it was, as well.

I don't think Ray forgot how to play defense, and then remembered again in April.  Like the rest of the team, he sleepwalked through the middle of the season.

As for Rip, I think there's been a real dropoff there, too.  I'd be more comfortable relying upon Ray than I would a guy who was injured for half the season and who shot below 30% from three, even if he did average 18 ppg as the primary scoring option on a terrible team.

[Rondo2287]

I am pretty pumped about getting Rip Hamilton at this spot. 

He had an off shooting year last year but is upgrade defensively from Ray Allen and i was also able to pick up another early 7th rounder.  But even in his off shooting year he averaged 18 points and 4 assists per game

I'm surprised to hear this from a Celtics fan, I guess.  Ray's regular season defense was mediocre, as the whole team took it easy.  However, in the playoffs his defense was top-notch, especially against Kobe.

Dont get me wrong im as big a ray fan as anybody im just not sure the gap between he and rip is that big.  And with the way that talent is dropping i saw it as absolutely crucial to try to get another pick

[StartOrien]

I am pretty pumped about getting Rip Hamilton at this spot. 

He had an off shooting year last year but is upgrade defensively from Ray Allen and i was also able to pick up another early 7th rounder.  But even in his off shooting year he averaged 18 points and 4 assists per game

I'm surprised to hear this from a Celtics fan, I guess.  Ray's regular season defense was mediocre, as the whole team took it easy.  However, in the playoffs his defense was top-notch, especially against Kobe.

Dont get me wrong im as big a ray fan as anybody im just not sure the gap between he and rip is that big.  And with the way that talent is dropping i saw it as absolutely crucial to try to get another pick

Have to disagree here. Rip is a catch and shoot from mid range guy, and not much more. Ray's excellent shot detracts from the fact that he is pretty well rounded in all assets of the game.

[Who]

I think Hedo is a good pick here.  He had a *terrible* year last year, and was disappointing off the court as well, but I think he'll bounce back.

He would have been under strong consideration if I'd kept the Kings (although ultimately he wouldn't have been my pick.)

Yeah I'm drinking a little of the real life Suns Kool Aid here. I'm hoping and Hedo and Warrick at the 3/4 will complement nicely in a run and gun offense. Plus with AI at the 2 and Nene at the 5 I have big starting 5 even with Brooks at PG.

I don't think Hedo will have a good season when playing alongside Aaron Brooks and Andre Iguodala. Those two guys have the ball in their hands too often for Hedo Turkoglu to get enough touches.

Hedo Turkoglu is only a high impact player when he is allowed to have the basketball in his hands and is asked to create off of the pick and roll. Turkoglu's only high level talent is his playmaking ability (and mostly only off the pick and roll).

I do think Hedo can still be a quality player in the right situation. Not here though.

Iguodala hopefully will show he can thrive without the ball in the Bball World Championship with team USA. I'm hoping with a SSOL style of play there will be enough touches for everyone imho. Depending how the rest of the Nyets roster develops, Hedo may play the Ray Allen role of only starter with 4 bench guys.  TP for the analysis and consideration.

Your team should definitely do that. It irritated me to high heaven that Jay Triano failed to do this last season. Stan Van Gundy did this to great effect with the Magic.

I love two different combinations here:

(1) Hedo Turkoglu + Aaron Brooks -- a scoring jump shooting point guard will do very well alongside Hedo.

(2) Hedo + Iggy + low usage wing player -- not a point guard, not even a Derek Fisher type who stays in the background. Not enough touches for Iggy and Hedo to both play at a high level if there is a point guard out there with them. You'll need an athletic wing like (two great ideas here) who has enough quickness to defend point guards to make this lineup work defensively.

I just don't like the three of them (Iggy, Hedo, Brooks) together. When that combination happens Hedo Turkoglu will perform like the role player he was in San Antonio and in Sacramento.

[Roy H.]

I am pretty pumped about getting Rip Hamilton at this spot.  

He had an off shooting year last year but is upgrade defensively from Ray Allen and i was also able to pick up another early 7th rounder.  But even in his off shooting year he averaged 18 points and 4 assists per game

I'm surprised to hear this from a Celtics fan, I guess.  Ray's regular season defense was mediocre, as the whole team took it easy.  However, in the playoffs his defense was top-notch, especially against Kobe.

Dont get me wrong im as big a ray fan as anybody im just not sure the gap between he and rip is that big.  And with the way that talent is dropping i saw it as absolutely crucial to try to get another pick

Yeah, I'm definitely a big fan of depth, as shown by last year.  However, I think you went from being right there with the other contenders in the East to being a step behind them.  I think the difference between Ray and Rip is significant.  (Also, if Ray was still generally perceived as being near Ray's level, he wouldn't have fallen to the fifth round, right?)

[Gomesfan]

Rip was my next pick! dang

[Donoghus]

For their coaching selection, the Utah Jazz select: Gregg Popovich

[Roy H.]

For their coaching selection, the Utah Jazz select: Gregg Popovich

I think that was the right way to go.  He's universally respected as a great coach, without the Celtics fan backlash of maybe some other guys.

[Rondo2287]

I am pretty pumped about getting Rip Hamilton at this spot. 

He had an off shooting year last year but is upgrade defensively from Ray Allen and i was also able to pick up another early 7th rounder.  But even in his off shooting year he averaged 18 points and 4 assists per game

I'm surprised to hear this from a Celtics fan, I guess.  Ray's regular season defense was mediocre, as the whole team took it easy.  However, in the playoffs his defense was top-notch, especially against Kobe.

Dont get me wrong im as big a ray fan as anybody im just not sure the gap between he and rip is that big.  And with the way that talent is dropping i saw it as absolutely crucial to try to get another pick

Yeah, I'm definitely a big fan of depth, as shown by last year.  However, I think you went from being right there with the other contenders in the East to being a step behind them.  I think the difference between Ray and Rip is significant.  (Also, if Ray was still generally perceived as being near Ray's level, he wouldn't have fallen to the fifth round, right?)

I dunno, im not sure about that. But i guess we will have to wait for the voting.  I doubt Ray would have fallen to the 5th, but thats cause he is a celt (IMO).  And I really just think that at this point Rip was a better fit for my team because he can play defense all year long, and he is also a couple of inches taller than RAy which i like, and is Younger.

[Roy H.]

New York has missed its pick. ChampKind can pick at any time.

9 (129) 10:50AM   New Orleans Hornets (The Walker Wiggle) New York Knicks (Ohio Celtics Fan)
10 (130)11:00AM   Orlando Magic (ChampKind)
11 (131) 11:10AM   Denver Nuggets (GainsvilleCeltic) Washington Boxers (nickagneta)Portland Trailblazers (Jsaad)Denver Nuggets (Gainsville Celtic)
12 (132) 11:20AM   Los Angeles Lakers (Tradetime/celticpride07)Portland Trailblazers (Jsaad)
13 (133) 11:30AM   Memphis Grizzlies (Rebus Rankin)
14 (134) 11:40AM   Miami Heat (jgod213)
15 (135) 11:50AM   Utah Jazz (Donoghus)

[ChampKind]

Well, I need a guy who is established as flexible as a starter or off the bench, and I need someone who can handle the point, though not necessarily a pure point guard. Plus, what kind of ship always sails on course??? Veteran leaderSHIP.

That notwithstanding, I'll take

Jason Terry

And attempt to ensure people that this is all part of a larger plan that somehow makes sense, including myself.

[Who]

I am pretty pumped about getting Rip Hamilton at this spot. 

He had an off shooting year last year but is upgrade defensively from Ray Allen and i was also able to pick up another early 7th rounder.  But even in his off shooting year he averaged 18 points and 4 assists per game

I'm surprised to hear this from a Celtics fan, I guess.  Ray's regular season defense was mediocre, as the whole team took it easy.  However, in the playoffs his defense was top-notch, especially against Kobe.

Dont get me wrong im as big a ray fan as anybody im just not sure the gap between he and rip is that big.  And with the way that talent is dropping i saw it as absolutely crucial to try to get another pick

Yeah, I'm definitely a big fan of depth, as shown by last year.  However, I think you went from being right there with the other contenders in the East to being a step behind them.  I think the difference between Ray and Rip is significant.  (Also, if Ray was still generally perceived as being near Ray's level, he wouldn't have fallen to the fifth round, right?)

I dunno, im not sure about that. But i guess we will have to wait for the voting.  I doubt Ray would have fallen to the 5th, but thats cause he is a celt (IMO).  And I really just think that at this point Rip was a better fit for my team because he can play defense all year long, and he is also a couple of inches taller than RAy which i like, and is Younger.

Rip also has enough quickness to defend some point guards when Jason Kidd is struggling. Gives you some flexibility in choosing defensive matchups in the backcourt.

[Roy H.]

I am pretty pumped about getting Rip Hamilton at this spot. 

He had an off shooting year last year but is upgrade defensively from Ray Allen and i was also able to pick up another early 7th rounder.  But even in his off shooting year he averaged 18 points and 4 assists per game

I'm surprised to hear this from a Celtics fan, I guess.  Ray's regular season defense was mediocre, as the whole team took it easy.  However, in the playoffs his defense was top-notch, especially against Kobe.

Dont get me wrong im as big a ray fan as anybody im just not sure the gap between he and rip is that big.  And with the way that talent is dropping i saw it as absolutely crucial to try to get another pick

Yeah, I'm definitely a big fan of depth, as shown by last year.  However, I think you went from being right there with the other contenders in the East to being a step behind them.  I think the difference between Ray and Rip is significant.  (Also, if Ray was still generally perceived as being near Ray's level, he wouldn't have fallen to the fifth round, right?)

I dunno, im not sure about that. But i guess we will have to wait for the voting.  I doubt Ray would have fallen to the 5th, but thats cause he is a celt (IMO).  And I really just think that at this point Rip was a better fit for my team because he can play defense all year long, and he is also a couple of inches taller than RAy which i like, and is Younger.

Yeah, but you also now have 40% of the starting lineup that won 27 games last year. 

I don't know, I think Rip has lost a step, and despite their age, I think the gap between Ray and Rip is as big as its ever been right now.  I'd rather see 16 points per game as a third option as opposed to 18 points as a first option.

Anyway, we can agree to disagree; I don't want to campaign against your team, as it's still a pretty good one.  (Just not as good as it was. )