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Re: 2010 Celticsblog Draft: Draft Board
« Reply #1725 on: August 20, 2010, 11:26:24 AM »

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Again, guys, please list team names in ALL trades submitted to the Commissioner's office.  It will be easier for us, and will get your trade posted sooner.

San Antonio trades: Monta Ellis, Caron Butler

Cleveland trades:  Devin Harris, 5.23 and 9.23


Can I dislike this trade, not because the value is particularly skewed , but because I don't like any of the players involved. Thumbs up for the GMS in making a bad situation a bad situation they feel more comfortable in.
I like the trade.... Harris had a bad year and Monta is a 25ppg guy and I needed a SG with Butler.
Not to mention Monta's 2 steals per game and 5 assist pergame.

A good trade for both sides. CLE gets more talent, but SA gets a young all-star PG, which is a tough position to fill in this league, so I understand the motivation there. Who SA gets at 5-23 will be a key as well.

But Monta isn't a PG, and he and Butler are both most effective at SG, so while CLE got the talent, it's a bit redundant, and the fit of the two playing next to each other will be the most interesting part of this trade.
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Re: 2010 Celticsblog Draft: Draft Board
« Reply #1726 on: August 20, 2010, 11:27:05 AM »

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Re: 2010 Celticsblog Draft: Draft Board
« Reply #1727 on: August 20, 2010, 11:27:28 AM »

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Carmelo Anthony + Monta Ellis give the Cavs a very effective 1-2 punch offensively. Surround them with some shooters, defenders and rebounders and you'll have a very good team on your hands. The third option here need only be a 12-14ppg guy due to Monta's + Melo's prolific scoring.

That basically gives you the Allen Iverson Nuggets, doesn't it?
Similar ... pretty much identical if you use Monta as a shooting guard (which is the main reason the Cavs shouldn't use him there).

However, if you use Monta as a point guard, you should be able to build a squad with enough defense + rebounding to build a legitimate contender around them.

It won't be the most efficient offense in the league but Monta + Melo can create mismatches against nearly any opposite number in the league. So they will be able to score well enough against top defensive teams in the playoffs to give themselves a a chance. 

Re: 2010 Celticsblog Draft: Draft Board
« Reply #1728 on: August 20, 2010, 11:27:37 AM »

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Again, guys, please list team names in ALL trades submitted to the Commissioner's office.  It will be easier for us, and will get your trade posted sooner.

San Antonio trades: Monta Ellis, Caron Butler

Cleveland trades:  Devin Harris, 5.23 and 9.23

I like moving Devin Harris for Monta Ellis. I think Ellis will make a better PG than Harris so a nice upgrade there.

Does that put Melo + Monta + Caron on the same team?

If so I would look to trade Caron Butler or at least make him a sixth man and limit his minutes. It'll be hard enough to create a team orientated offense with Monta + Melon on the same team but it will be downright impossible with another shot happy wing in the mix.

Carmelo Anthony + Monta Ellis give the Cavs a very effective 1-2 punch offensively. Surround them with some shooters, defenders and rebounders and you'll have a very good team on your hands. The third option here need only be a 12-14ppg guy due to Monta's + Melo's prolific scoring.
I do agree with you but I think Caron may be at a point in his career where he needs to be more of a role player like he would of been here if the Celtics had of been able to pull the trigger on a move for him. To be honest with you he is one of my favorite players in the league, why? I am not sure, maybe because of all the thing he over came to be in the NBA and of course he is a Huskie!!!!!
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Re: 2010 Celticsblog Draft: Draft Board
« Reply #1729 on: August 20, 2010, 11:30:22 AM »

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Looking to move up a tad from 5.17, woud do pick swaps

Re: 2010 Celticsblog Draft: Draft Board
« Reply #1730 on: August 20, 2010, 11:31:42 AM »

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Again, guys, please list team names in ALL trades submitted to the Commissioner's office.  It will be easier for us, and will get your trade posted sooner.

San Antonio trades: Monta Ellis, Caron Butler

Cleveland trades:  Devin Harris, 5.23 and 9.23

I like moving Devin Harris for Monta Ellis. I think Ellis will make a better PG than Harris so a nice upgrade there.

Does that put Melo + Monta + Caron on the same team?

If so I would look to trade Caron Butler or at least make him a sixth man and limit his minutes. It'll be hard enough to create a team orientated offense with Monta + Melon on the same team but it will be downright impossible with another shot happy wing in the mix.

Carmelo Anthony + Monta Ellis give the Cavs a very effective 1-2 punch offensively. Surround them with some shooters, defenders and rebounders and you'll have a very good team on your hands. The third option here need only be a 12-14ppg guy due to Monta's + Melo's prolific scoring.
I do agree with you but I think Caron may be at a point in his career where he needs to be more of a role player like he would of been here if the Celtics had of been able to pull the trigger on a move for him. To be honest with you he is one of my favorite players in the league, why? I am not sure, maybe because of all the thing he over came to be in the NBA and of course he is a Huskie!!!!!
He needs to be more of a role player, but convincing a player like Butler to take less shots isn't the easiest thing to do.

Especially when the first two options on the team are shot happy scorers like Melo/Monta. This isn't the Big 3 all taking less shots to play together....

Re: 2010 Celticsblog Draft: Draft Board
« Reply #1731 on: August 20, 2010, 11:32:56 AM »

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Carmelo Anthony + Monta Ellis give the Cavs a very effective 1-2 punch offensively. Surround them with some shooters, defenders and rebounders and you'll have a very good team on your hands. The third option here need only be a 12-14ppg guy due to Monta's + Melo's prolific scoring.

That basically gives you the Allen Iverson Nuggets, doesn't it?
Similar ... pretty much identical if you use Monta as a shooting guard (which is the main reason the Cavs shouldn't use him there).

However, if you use Monta as a point guard, you should be able to build a squad with enough defense + rebounding to build a legitimate contender around them.

It won't be the most efficient offense in the league but Monta + Melo can create mismatches against nearly any opposite number in the league. So they will be able to score well enough against top defensive teams in the playoffs to give themselves a a chance. 
I think the best unmentioned part of this conversation is Jason Thompson, he would fit in perfect on a squad like this as well as Pryzbila()if healthy) neither of these two need the ball and are great rebounders and Thompson can avg a double double. I do however need to get a bench and another Center!
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Re: 2010 Celticsblog Draft: Draft Board
« Reply #1732 on: August 20, 2010, 11:33:42 AM »

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Hey guys, just joining in.

Absolutely no idea where we are in the draft, it looks like a few picks have been skipped (?) and the board isn't updated.  If we write out what pick # we are drafting with it will help everybody keep on track with where we are.  I'm sure very very few of us can stay tuned and follow all day.

So, are we skipping Rebus here at #13 and moving on to jgod at #14?

Also, DRAFT BOARD UPDATE.  I own the rights to Rondo2287's pick #5.19 from the Ray Allen trade.
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Re: 2010 Celticsblog Draft: Draft Board
« Reply #1733 on: August 20, 2010, 11:35:23 AM »

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Hey guys, just joining in.

Absolutely no idea where we are in the draft, it looks like a few picks have been skipped (?) and the board isn't updated.  If we write out what pick # we are drafting with it will help everybody keep on track with where we are.  I'm sure very very few of us can stay tuned and follow all day.

So, are we skipping Rebus here at #13 and moving on to jgod at #14?

Also, DRAFT BOARD UPDATE.  I own the rights to Rondo2287's pick #5.19 from the Ray Allen trade.
I have a list from Rebus, one second let me look at it.

Re: 2010 Celticsblog Draft: Draft Board
« Reply #1734 on: August 20, 2010, 11:36:03 AM »

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Hey guys, just joining in.

Absolutely no idea where we are in the draft, it looks like a few picks have been skipped (?) and the board isn't updated.  If we write out what pick # we are drafting with it will help everybody keep on track with where we are.  I'm sure very very few of us can stay tuned and follow all day.

So, are we skipping Rebus here at #13 and moving on to jgod at #14?

Also, DRAFT BOARD UPDATE.  I own the rights to Rondo2287's pick #5.19 from the Ray Allen trade.

Good idea with the pick, maybe put that in a separate color as well?

Re: 2010 Celticsblog Draft: Draft Board
« Reply #1735 on: August 20, 2010, 11:37:21 AM »

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Memphis selects Corey Brewer

Re: 2010 Celticsblog Draft: Draft Board
« Reply #1736 on: August 20, 2010, 11:38:50 AM »

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Memphis selects Corey Brewer

That is a good pick, would hope he would have slipped.

Re: 2010 Celticsblog Draft: Draft Board
« Reply #1737 on: August 20, 2010, 11:40:47 AM »

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Carmelo Anthony + Monta Ellis give the Cavs a very effective 1-2 punch offensively. Surround them with some shooters, defenders and rebounders and you'll have a very good team on your hands. The third option here need only be a 12-14ppg guy due to Monta's + Melo's prolific scoring.

That basically gives you the Allen Iverson Nuggets, doesn't it?
Similar ... pretty much identical if you use Monta as a shooting guard (which is the main reason the Cavs shouldn't use him there).

However, if you use Monta as a point guard, you should be able to build a squad with enough defense + rebounding to build a legitimate contender around them.

It won't be the most efficient offense in the league but Monta + Melo can create mismatches against nearly any opposite number in the league. So they will be able to score well enough against top defensive teams in the playoffs to give themselves a a chance. 
I think the best unmentioned part of this conversation is Jason Thompson, he would fit in perfect on a squad like this as well as Pryzbila()if healthy) neither of these two need the ball and are great rebounders and Thompson can avg a double double. I do however need to get a bench and another Center!
I like the Joel Przybilla part of the equation.

Not wild about Jason Thompson though. I like what he does for your team offensively and he is a solid rebounder but he's doesn't know how to play any defense yet. Probably a year or two away from becoming a mediocre defender nevermind a good one. He lacks a lot of knowledge and recognition of what he should be doing. Long term, I wouldn't be concerned about it but it'll take some time to correct.

Also, Przybilla generally only plays in the mid 20s minutes wise and cannot play much over the 30 minute mark. So if you pencil him in for 30 minutes you still have 66 big man minutes to fill where, as of now, you have no defensive presence.

Joel Przybilla is a nice start but your big man rotation still has a lot of work to do.

Re: 2010 Celticsblog Draft: Draft Board
« Reply #1738 on: August 20, 2010, 11:41:22 AM »

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Also Caron Butler only avg 16ppg last season

Anyways I will be back later .....now that I am have no pick today I can go get a hair cut... bald fade if anyone is wondering!!!!
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Re: 2010 Celticsblog Draft: Draft Board
« Reply #1739 on: August 20, 2010, 11:42:12 AM »

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Jgod has missed his pick, Dons and the Jazz may select at any time.