Will KG be suspended from game 2?

[PosImpos]

It should be a one game suspension.

I think it's way too easy to put things on the refs not "handling" the situation correctly or a homer or hater's point of view of whether he was trying to innocently "pull" his arm loose and the elbow just "happened" to swing backward.

Ultimately, it's up to a player (and a veteran player at that) to know the situation he's in and KEEP HIS HEAD and not do something idiotic and careless to get himself suspended. There's way, way too much excuse making and not enough personal responsibilty in these sort of instances.

Look at it this way...

If the roles had been reversed and Q was laying on the floor and PP wandered over for whatever reason and he was hit in the face by an "accidental" J. O'Neal elbow, would you be ok with it being "playoff type Basketball" and no suspension?

Exactly.

[SamuelAdams]

My view was straight on Garnett and Richardson, about 25 feet away.  When PP went down, Garnett went over and spread his legs and arm like a mother duck over Pierce. Richardson came down the inside, he could have easily gone around, and tried to force himself past Garnett. He would have stepped on Pierce if he passed Garnett.  Garnett held him back by not moving his arm away.  Richardson pushed at Garnett's arm and yelled "You trying to push me?!?" This just p---ed Kevin off but he still didn't move his arm or legs. Richardson kept the body contact by leaning on KG. After Haslem came in, Richardson pushed through Garnet and hell broke loose.

Richardson could have gone around. Had Garnett ceded ground, Richardson would have stepped on Pierce.

[GreenFaith1819]

It should be a one game suspension.

I think it's way too easy to put things on the refs not "handling" the situation correctly or a homer or hater's point of view of whether he was trying to innocently "pull" his arm loose and the elbow just "happened" to swing backward.

Ultimately, it's up to a player (and a veteran player at that) to know the situation he's in and KEEP HIS HEAD and not do something idiotic and careless to get himself suspended. There's way, way too much excuse making and not enough personal responsibilty in these sort of instances.

Look at it this way...

If the roles had been reversed and Q was laying on the floor and PP wandered over for whatever reason and he was hit in the face by an "accidental" J. O'Neal elbow, would you be ok with it being "playoff type Basketball" and no suspension?

Exactly.

Is that a Troll? In the Forums?

[reggie35]

Yeah, after watching the replay, Richardson's whole goal was to start a fight on that play. And, if KG get's suspended it will be mission accomplished.

[feckless]

Personally Q had no business pushing his way into where an injured player was being tended to, and should be suspended!  When Q didn't leave KG was right to protect his injured teammate at least until the refs stepped in and told that fool Q to move on.  Even if he is suspended I believe KG did the right thing.

I agree completely. A veteran or not, I'd be more worried if KG did nothing and let Richardson push his way to taunt a fallen player than I'll be if he gets suspended.

Yeah ... Q had no reason being there, especially talking trash over an injured player ... can't believe KG got ejected and he didn't ... there would have been NO incident if Q had stayed away.

A big part of that is the fact that the rulebook has a greater problem with players elbowing other participants than it does with general impoliteness.  As it should.

-sw

Yes but that elbowing is during the course of the game--not what took place tonight.  1st elbow was more like KG spreading both arms and elbows to occupy more space--nothing was thrown.  2nd one was somewhere between shrugging people off of him and throwing an elbow?

[RAcker]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lz0-HvMNyM

For those saying KG's "thrown elbow" was similar to what Howard got suspended for.

Howard's elbow is clearly intentional and far worse.

Thanks for posting because I think the two incidents are apples and oranges. 

However, I fear a one game suspension for KG. The league is just that stupid to do this for an elbow that by all appearances was just a flail that landed and not do anything to Richardson...that d bag.

[twinbree]

"I was trying to get over there to take the ball out of bounds and he started to talk to me so I talked back. I don't have any business talking to him (Pierce), he was on the ground crying I dont know what was going on, two actresses over there that's what they are."

This is the Richardson quote from the first page which I confess made me LOL a little. But yeah he's still an idiot. KG really shouldn't have let him get under his skin.

[Steve Weinman]

I know only that I know nothing when it comes to predicting how league disciplinary actions will go.

But I think this is the right thread in which to offer tonight's "He Gets It!" award to Doc Rivers for his comments after the mini-brouhaha:

Even if we're right, we're wrong.

No matter what goes on in the league office, this sort of thing is a two-way street.

-sw

[Bahku]

Personally Q had no business pushing his way into where an injured player was being tended to, and should be suspended!  When Q didn't leave KG was right to protect his injured teammate at least until the refs stepped in and told that fool Q to move on.  Even if he is suspended I believe KG did the right thing.

I agree completely. A veteran or not, I'd be more worried if KG did nothing and let Richardson push his way to taunt a fallen player than I'll be if he gets suspended.

Yeah ... Q had no reason being there, especially talking trash over an injured player ... can't believe KG got ejected and he didn't ... there would have been NO incident if Q had stayed away.

A big part of that is the fact that the rulebook has a greater problem with players elbowing other participants than it does with general impoliteness.  As it should.

-sw

Hmmmmm .... possibly, though it's easy to say in this case that the (very incidental) first elbow, which was more of a forearm really, followed what was clearly a "taunting" ... not sure that's much less antagonistic in the scheme of things. That said, KG knew he went too far, but the whole thing would have been a non-incident without Q making an effort to be where he wasn't needed.

[vinnie]

Just watched it over at ESPN.com again. That second elbow nailed Richardson in the jaw, and despite how big a jerk Q is, that elbow is going to get Garnett suspended for Tuesday's gamme.

[NBAJ2K]

Originally I thought there was no chance of a suspension, but unfortunately reading the refs reasoning and thinking about it more makes me think he might actually be suspended, we will see.

~J

http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/celtics/post/_/id/4673592/kg-ejected-in-fourth-quarter-melee

"Referee Joe DeRosa released the following statement after the game: "[Garnett] was ejected for throwing an elbow that made contact with Quentin Richardson. He had already had one technical foul for taunting with Quentin Richardson before that. Then as the altercation went on, he threw an elbow that did make contact with Richardson, which was his second technical foul and he was ejected."

DeRosa also noted that, regardless if contact from the elbow had not occurred, Garnett would have been disqualified for a second technical for even throwing the elbow.

[ScoobyDoo]

It should absolutely 100% be a one game suspension. No player should ever be able to do that and be able to play the next game, I don't care who you are.

And that is why Richardson should be suspended. It's a no brainer. If Richardson doesn't act like the low class type of player he has always been by going over and clearly trying to taunt both Pierce and KG, nothing happens. NOTHING HAPPENS. Everything that happened in that incident was because of Richardson's taunting. It's called "incitement" actaully, and Richardson's incitement put numerous player's health and ability to participate in future games in jeapardy by his actions.

I'm all for good, hard physical play but you never, NEVER go over and stand over an injured player, that is not your place to be on the court. It's similar to walking into the other teams' huddle and shoving someone or taunting someone.

KG had made it clear by his stance that no one should enter that space and that is the right thing to do when a teammate is down. Other guys normally coem somewhat near but keep their distance.

Richardson aggressively wa spushing his way into the space above Pierce that KG had cordoned off.

Richardson is a punk, always has been and should be suspended for one maybe two games, minimum.

But the NBA has no balls to make that call. They will probably stick it to KG, even though Richardson deserved the elbow, the technical and a suspension.

And if one of our players did the same thing, I'd think they should also be suspended.

YOu have to look at the source of the melee. It wasn't KG, it was Q. You opunish the guy who starts it, guys will be hesitant to do it again.    

[PosImpos]

It should absolutely 100% be a one game suspension. No player should ever be able to do that and be able to play the next game, I don't care who you are.

And that is why Richardson should be suspended. It's a no brainer. If Richardson doesn't act like the low class type of player he has always been by going over and clearly trying to taunt both Pierce and KG, nothing happens. NOTHING HAPPENS. Everything that happened in that incident was because of Richardson's taunting. It's called "incitement" actaully, and Richardson's incitement put numerous player's health and ability to participate in future games in jeapardy by his actions.

I'm all for good, hard physical play but you never, NEVER go over and stand over an injured player, that is not your place to be on the court. It's similar to walking into the other teams' huddle and shoving someone or taunting someone.

KG had made it clear by his stance that no one should enter that space and that is the right thing to do when a teammate is down. Other guys normally coem somewhat near but keep their distance.

Richardson aggressively wa spushing his way into the space above Pierce that KG had cordoned off.

Richardson is a punk, always has been and should be suspended for one maybe two games, minimum.

But the NBA has no balls to make that call. They will probably stick it to KG, even though Richardson deserved the elbow, the technical and a suspension.

And if one of our players did the same thing, I'd think they should also be suspended.

YOu have to look at the source of the melee. It wasn't KG, it was Q. You opunish the guy who starts it, guys will be hesitant to do it again.    

I agree, nobody's actions were more dangerous in that "fracas" (as it is being called by practically everyone in the media for some reason) than Q-Rich's. 

[Bahku]

It should absolutely 100% be a one game suspension. No player should ever be able to do that and be able to play the next game, I don't care who you are.

And that is why Richardson should be suspended. It's a no brainer. If Richardson doesn't act like the low class type of player he has always been by going over and clearly trying to taunt both Pierce and KG, nothing happens. NOTHING HAPPENS. Everything that happened in that incident was because of Richardson's taunting. It's called "incitement" actaully, and Richardson's incitement put numerous player's health and ability to participate in future games in jeapardy by his actions.

I'm all for good, hard physical play but you never, NEVER go over and stand over an injured player, that is not your place to be on the court. It's similar to walking into the other teams' huddle and shoving someone or taunting someone.

KG had made it clear by his stance that no one should enter that space and that is the right thing to do when a teammate is down. Other guys normally coem somewhat near but keep their distance.

Richardson aggressively wa spushing his way into the space above Pierce that KG had cordoned off.

Richardson is a punk, always has been and should be suspended for one maybe two games, minimum.

But the NBA has no balls to make that call. They will probably stick it to KG, even though Richardson deserved the elbow, the technical and a suspension.

And if one of our players did the same thing, I'd think they should also be suspended.

YOu have to look at the source of the melee. It wasn't KG, it was Q. You opunish the guy who starts it, guys will be hesitant to do it again.   

TP, Scoobs.

[vinnie]

Here is a good video of the incident. KG will be suspended for a game, but Richardson should also be suspended. He instigated the entire thing and had no reason to walk where he did when he was going to the bench.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/18/kevin-garnett-fight-video_n_541832.html