GSW considering Ellis for Allen?

[ManUp]

I would turn down Ellis and VladRad.  I would demand Bell instead.

Yes, Ellis has question marks.  So Does Ray Allen because of his age.

Actually I would prefer Iguodala, but Philly is highly unlikely to trade him within the division.

Agreed...

Definitely the player I want most out of all the possibilities. I don't think trading within the division is a big concern since Philly isn't really contending with us for anything. If they're left without options I think he's a real possibility.

[KungPoweChicken]

I would turn down Ellis and VladRad.  I would demand Bell instead.

Yes, Ellis has question marks.  So Does Ray Allen because of his age.

Actually I would prefer Iguodala, but Philly is highly unlikely to trade him within the division.

Agreed...

Definitely the player I want most out of all the possibilities. I don't think trading within the division is a big concern since Philly isn't really contending with us for anything. If they're left without options I think he's a real possibility.

I think Andre is a little overrated. He is one of those players who doesn't do anything quite well. I could picture him coming in and pulling a Richard Jefferson. Out of all the "potential options", I don't think AI would be on the top of my list, but he can be a very good player.

[moiso]

Ellis doesn't seem to be the kind of guy that helps win games.  But if Randolph were included, I'd have to think about it.

[KungPoweChicken]

Ellis doesn't seem to be the kind of guy that helps win games.  But if Randolph were included, I'd have to think about it.

I love Ellis as a player. It's just a shame he doesn't fit here. The last thing I want on our team is someone coming in and taking the ball away from Rondo.

[ManUp]

Everytime i think of maybe trading Ray i remember what he has/can do in big games especially when the post season starts...no matter how you try to get around it theres no replacing experience.Id rather figure a way to hold on to Ray because i feel he will be worth his weight in gold come crunch time.

I think more and more-the reason Ray gets to hit big shots at the end of games, is because he misses so many shots DURING the game--if he Actually hit those shots(like in his prime)---we wouldn't need a bail out shot at the end...Bring on MONTA......or just wait til JJ Reddick Shuts Ray down in this year's playoffs-!!

TP, my thoughts exactly. There have been plenty of games we'd have been able to put away or blown open if Ray hit the shots hes expected to. In the play-offs its even more frustrating when he disappears series at a time. it's not like guys put the locks on him he just goes cold. Reddick didn't shutdown anyone in the play-offs Ray just missed the shots. It's the same story for just about every bad play-off series he has had with us.

[jdpapa3]

No chance to pry Randolph out of them. He has pretty good value around the league.

[Andy Jick]

There's no reason for Danny to make a move like this right now...I cannot see the demand for Ellis being that high at this moment (due to his contract & character issues). 

But I'm also going to go out on a limb and say that the demand for Ray Allen is probably not that high...  Some of the names I see tossed around for him are comical.

[Who]

It's the same thing with Iguodala in Philadelphia.  You wouldn't think he'd be available in a salary dump, but apparently he is. 

Philadelphia are still only considering making Iguodala available.

He isn't out there yet, he just might be.

[youcanthandlethetruth113]

For the next 2-3 years I think this one is a no-brainer (YES). I love Ray Ray, but Ellis at 25 and 26 is going to be a better player than Ray at 35 and 36.

I think the questions are:

* Does he meld with Rondo?
* Will he prevent us from "blowing it up" in a couple of years?

It's intriguing at least. The athleticism of a Rondo / Ellis backcourt would be something to watch, that's for sure.

My thoughts exactly

[Who]

http://www.82games.com/0910/0910GSW.HTM

Scariest thing about him is that the Warriors are WAYYY better when he is not on the floor.

He's averaging 42 minutes a game, so the raw on/off court numbers cannot be taken at face value. Two sample sizes that are way out of wack.

I think the statistics are on the right track on this one -- the Warriors are better with Ellis off the court. They move the ball better, more players are involved, and they're harder to defend. They're also more efficient. They're a better offensive team when he's off the floor and they're a better defensive team when they play bigger.

[PosImpos]

I would turn down Ellis and VladRad.  I would demand Bell instead.

Yes, Ellis has question marks.  So Does Ray Allen because of his age.

Actually I would prefer Iguodala, but Philly is highly unlikely to trade him within the division.

Agreed...

Definitely the player I want most out of all the possibilities. I don't think trading within the division is a big concern since Philly isn't really contending with us for anything. If they're left without options I think he's a real possibility.

If Phillie were desperate / stupid enough to trade Iggy for Ray Ray I'd do it without thinking too hard about it.  Despite being a worse shooter he's still a better player at this point in his career and he's much younger.  The Celtics would win big in that kind of trade.

Iggy isn't super impressive as the best player on Phillie but as the 3rd or 4th best player on the C's he'd be fantastic.

Unfortunately I don't think there's much chance of it happening.

[Who]

I have no interest in Monta Ellis as a shooting guard. He doesn't effect the game enough in non-scoring ways (passing, defense, rebounding) and his scoring + style of play hurts his teammates offensively.

Ellis would be a solid scoring point guard alongside a top playmaking wing or a solid combo guard alongside a big point guard like he was with Baron Davis.

Ellis at the two guard spot would make Boston too vulnerable defensively and he doesn't bring enough offensively to make up for that.

I would rather keep Ray Allen.

[Who]

The Warriors need to get rid of Monta Ellis and develop Stephon Curry. A salary dump would be an excellent move for them.

Steph Curry + Anthony Morrow + Anthony Randolph

Those three guys should be the core for the Warriors going forward. Spend another year or two in the lottery, be patient, pick up a little more talent. Create some cap flexibility by dumping Ellis, Maggette, Turiaf and possibly Biedrins. And then make a push. That's a promising situation to build from.

[Drucci]

Terrible trade for both teams... it makes no sense for us (if our goal is still to win the championship this year, of course, and getting good chances of doing it in the coming years ) and it just gives cap relief for the Warriors, who should try to trade Maggette instead.

[dasandruler]

someone mentioned jj reddick....thats who ray ray reminds me of.  the coach likes em, the team respects em, he hits his free throws, hustles on defense...high basket ball IQ: and makes me cringe with all those bricks.  JJ reddick, eddie brick house, and ray ray should all go into construction together----that being said montai ellis by himself is a half azz effort for team improvement. If they wanna win now and get younger they obviously gotta pay$$$ for it<multiple deficiencies at present>.  No bandaids or off season bargain hunting....these guys are close NOW. next year--idunno....and enough with the character guy jazz, I know some jackholes on the job who can be a pain in the azz: but we tolerate it because they get the job done.  patriot way celtic way. same shiite. puton da green and the infastructure is there.