Lester Hudson is a keeper

[moiso]

I like the Will Bynum correlation.  I really like Bynum off the bench.  It would be nice if Hudson eventually becomes Bynumish.

[billysan]

I mostly agree, except I don't think Hudson duplicates House's skills very much.  Hudson is a better creator off the dribble while House has more shooting range.  That said, I agree that his defense will be key to getting minutes, and that would likely take minutes from House because Daniels to too valuable and versatile not to play.

You are right, I probably should have said it differently, He certainly doesnt duplicate Eddie in the 3pt shooting department (yet) but he could in the future. He does duplicate Eddie in the scorer that is PG size department. I think Hudson may be a slightly better defender and ball handler while Eddie is the better passer and sees the court better. These are mostly a product of Hudson and Houses age with experience level I think.

I would hope that he helps take minutes from Pierce, Ray and Rondo cumulatively with Eddie and Marquis rather than just Eddies minutes. Even if only 3 minutes each would give him 8-10 total and lower their per game average. I think Eddie needs about 16-20 at least to be a factor for us offensively. Give Marquis 20-25 and keep the starters to around 32-36 each unless we play a team like the Laker or Cavaliers where we need them more.

[Tai]

Hudson looks good as in "he maybe could help us in a couple of years after House is gone" but i don't see how he cracks the rotation or even dresses on most nights with Eddie House healthy.  You simply cannot play them together in the backcourt nor would you want to with Marquis here. 

I see him as a Will Bynum-type who could make it when he finds the right situation to get his minutes in a specific role off the bench......those minutes aren't available for a rookie on a team with championship aspirations. 

Are you just saying this because of Marbury? Hudson looks like he can actually defend. And, you could have Eddie guard the 1s while Hudson guards the 2s while Daniels plays the 3.

In the end, Daniels probably will be the point forward for the 2nd unit while Hudson's eased into becoming a PG in the D-league, but I don't necessarily buy that Hudson can't play alongside House defensively.

This is a slippery slope for Hudson. HRB has a valid point as usual with the duplication of Eddie House type skills. OTOH, if Hudson gets in the game a couple of times and makes a few shots, a few stops and minimal mistakes in a few short minutes lined up next to Eddie and Marquis??........ 

He could force his way into the rotation. His defense will be the key, just like it will with JR Giddens. If he outplays Eddie defensively and proves he can cover most of the two guards adequately then he has a shot.

Of course, if he gets in and looks like a bad Tony Allen impersonator that will also seal his role into stone. It will be nearly impossible for him to be mistake free as a rookie. The odds are certainly not in his favor.

I mostly agree, except I don't think Hudson duplicates House's skills very much.  Hudson is a better creator off the dribble while House has more shooting range.  That said, I agree that his defense will be key to getting minutes, and that would likely take minutes from House because Daniels to too valuable and versatile not to play.

If Hudson played, he'd probably be the one while House would be the 2 and Daniels the 3. I don't think Hudson would ever be in as opposed to Daniels.

[clover]

I like the Will Bynum correlation.  I really like Bynum off the bench.  It would be nice if Hudson eventually becomes Bynumish.

I think Hudson could definitely deliver Bynum's offense off the bench, but I also think Hudson's a couple of inches taller, with longer arms, and so he has more defensive potential.

[HomeRunBaker]

Hudson looks good as in "he maybe could help us in a couple of years after House is gone" but i don't see how he cracks the rotation or even dresses on most nights with Eddie House healthy.  You simply cannot play them together in the backcourt nor would you want to with Marquis here. 

I see him as a Will Bynum-type who could make it when he finds the right situation to get his minutes in a specific role off the bench......those minutes aren't available for a rookie on a team with championship aspirations. 

Are you just saying this because of Marbury? Hudson looks like he can actually defend. And, you could have Eddie guard the 1s while Hudson guards the 2s while Daniels plays the 3.

In the end, Daniels probably will be the point forward for the 2nd unit while Hudson's eased into becoming a PG in the D-league, but I don't necessarily buy that Hudson can't play alongside House defensively.

This is a slippery slope for Hudson. HRB has a valid point as usual with the duplication of Eddie House type skills. OTOH, if Hudson gets in the game a couple of times and makes a few shots, a few stops and minimal mistakes in a few short minutes lined up next to Eddie and Marquis??........ 

He could force his way into the rotation. His defense will be the key, just like it will with JR Giddens. If he outplays Eddie defensively and proves he can cover most of the two guards adequately then he has a shot.

Of course, if he gets in and looks like a bad Tony Allen impersonator that will also seal his role into stone. It will be nearly impossible for him to be mistake free as a rookie. The odds are certainly not in his favor.

I want to be clear that i do like what i've seen from Hudson in that he is a fearless and aggressive player.....these types typically have a better shot of succeeding in this league over those who are not.  For these reasons alone we could see Hudson force his way into the lineup while accelerating his learning curve this season however he has a ways to go imo before he has that opportunity in Boston. 

[vjcsmoke]

Just watched a clip of Hudson.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tggi8cToU88

He looks impressive offensively.  I was about to ask - But can he play DEFENSE?  Because that's the only way a rookie gets on the court.  Sounds like he did so in the last preseason game.  Let's see some more.  I think Hudson has the potential to finally be a complementary player to Rondo, because he has an outside shot.  When Rondo runs cold, which he does now and then, it's good to have someone else to put out there.  Pruitt was not it.  Marbury was not it.  Can Lester Hudson be IT?

[Tr1boy]

Hudson can pass. He could penetrate and pass but right now he does not want to or has been not given the green light to try to. The coaching staff wants him to stick to a simple game for now before letting him play the way he could.

Smart or not i guess he has to learn the basics first. I'd like him to try to penetrate to the basket more to score instead of scoring in a "set" play manner

The guy gave every college teams and opposing pg nightmares from what i read in articles. He gave derrick rose all he could handle one game they played and rose went to be the #1 pick. His skills are 1st round material there is no doubt. Could be dannys greatest steal that just fell onto his laps

[csfansince60s]

I think he can spell Ray Ray effectively,especially with Rondo on the court with him.....we don't have to confine our thoughts to Doc's tunnel vision of having a full 2nd unit separate from the first on the court at the same time.

A unit of RR and LH with either PP or MD, Sheed or Garnett, and Baby or Perk would work in spelling Ray.

Rondo and Lester compliment each other well. Tenacious defenders, excellent rebounders from the guard position, both aggressive with the ball with RR the penetrator and budding (hope the work with Price pays off) jump shooter and LH as an all around scorer, slasher, shooter. Sounds good to me.

[clover]

Here's a good article for Hudson fans:

http://www.metrowestdailynews.com/sports/pros_and_colleges/x795735099/Courtside-View-Hudson-hanging-on

[billysan]

Here's a good article for Hudson fans:

http://www.metrowestdailynews.com/sports/pros_and_colleges/x795735099/Courtside-View-Hudson-hanging-on

Thanx, sounds like Doc really does like him but is trying to keep him humble, learning and listening. If he stays hungry and pays attention, who knows? TP

[Chief]

I'd say his upside is Darrell Armstrong which is not bad.

[Jon]

I think he can spell Ray Ray effectively,especially with Rondo on the court with him.....we don't have to confine our thoughts to Doc's tunnel vision of having a full 2nd unit separate from the first on the court at the same time.

A unit of RR and LH with either PP or MD, Sheed or Garnett, and Baby or Perk would work in spelling Ray.

Rondo and Lester compliment each other well. Tenacious defenders, excellent rebounders from the guard position, both aggressive with the ball with RR the penetrator and budding (hope the work with Price pays off) jump shooter and LH as an all around scorer, slasher, shooter. Sounds good to me.

OK, but here's my problem, under what circumstances would that lineup ever occur?  If it's a game that matters, why wouldn't Doc play Eddie House instead of Hudson?  If it's a blowout, why are Rondo and Co. in the game at all? 

To me, the only way Hudson is going to get consistent minutes is if he beats out Eddie House, and I don't see that happening.  Otherwise, there's really no reason to play him outside of foul trouble or a blow out.  Remember, basketball is only 48 minutes long.  Rondo's going to play 35 mpg, Pierce and Allen are going to play more than 32 mpg.  That in the most extreme case, is only going to leave 45 mpg of backup minutes for the 1, 2, and 3 spots.  I don't see any reason why we have to go deeper than Marquis and Eddie to fill those minutes.  There simply aren't enough minutes for him. 

If Lester beats one of them out, great.  But I don't see the point in simply playing more players.  The best players should get the minutes. 

[GKC]

I think he can spell Ray Ray effectively,especially with Rondo on the court with him.....we don't have to confine our thoughts to Doc's tunnel vision of having a full 2nd unit separate from the first on the court at the same time.

A unit of RR and LH with either PP or MD, Sheed or Garnett, and Baby or Perk would work in spelling Ray.

Rondo and Lester compliment each other well. Tenacious defenders, excellent rebounders from the guard position, both aggressive with the ball with RR the penetrator and budding (hope the work with Price pays off) jump shooter and LH as an all around scorer, slasher, shooter. Sounds good to me.

OK, but here's my problem, under what circumstances would that lineup ever occur?  If it's a game that matters, why wouldn't Doc play Eddie House instead of Hudson?  If it's a blowout, why are Rondo and Co. in the game at all? 

To me, the only way Hudson is going to get consistent minutes is if he beats out Eddie House, and I don't see that happening.  Otherwise, there's really no reason to play him outside of foul trouble or a blow out.  Remember, basketball is only 48 minutes long.  Rondo's going to play 35 mpg, Pierce and Allen are going to play more than 32 mpg.  That in the most extreme case, is only going to leave 45 mpg of backup minutes for the 1, 2, and 3 spots.  I don't see any reason why we have to go deeper than Marquis and Eddie to fill those minutes.  There simply aren't enough minutes for him. 

If Lester beats one of them out, great.  But I don't see the point in simply playing more players.  The best players should get the minutes. 

Jons right. Really, Lester Hudson is a keeper, but really only for injury insurance purposes. Doc has tried a small lineup with Hudson, Eddie backcourt during the preseason, but I'm sure that's just an experiment. If we really wanted to go small with the bench, I'm sure it would be Rondo with Eddie. And I just prefer the Eddie, Marquis, Baby, Sheed, Scal (or TA/Giddens/Walker) lineup much more than the Hudson, Eddie, Marquis, Sheed, Baby lineup. The latter has the same defensive liabilities that the Marbury / Eddie lineup had.

[Tai]

I think he can spell Ray Ray effectively,especially with Rondo on the court with him.....we don't have to confine our thoughts to Doc's tunnel vision of having a full 2nd unit separate from the first on the court at the same time.

A unit of RR and LH with either PP or MD, Sheed or Garnett, and Baby or Perk would work in spelling Ray.

Rondo and Lester compliment each other well. Tenacious defenders, excellent rebounders from the guard position, both aggressive with the ball with RR the penetrator and budding (hope the work with Price pays off) jump shooter and LH as an all around scorer, slasher, shooter. Sounds good to me.

OK, but here's my problem, under what circumstances would that lineup ever occur?  If it's a game that matters, why wouldn't Doc play Eddie House instead of Hudson?  If it's a blowout, why are Rondo and Co. in the game at all? 

To me, the only way Hudson is going to get consistent minutes is if he beats out Eddie House, and I don't see that happening.  Otherwise, there's really no reason to play him outside of foul trouble or a blow out.  Remember, basketball is only 48 minutes long.  Rondo's going to play 35 mpg, Pierce and Allen are going to play more than 32 mpg.  That in the most extreme case, is only going to leave 45 mpg of backup minutes for the 1, 2, and 3 spots.  I don't see any reason why we have to go deeper than Marquis and Eddie to fill those minutes.  There simply aren't enough minutes for him. 

If Lester beats one of them out, great.  But I don't see the point in simply playing more players.  The best players should get the minutes. 

Jons right. Really, Lester Hudson is a keeper, but really only for injury insurance purposes. Doc has tried a small lineup with Hudson, Eddie backcourt during the preseason, but I'm sure that's just an experiment. If we really wanted to go small with the bench, I'm sure it would be Rondo with Eddie. And I just prefer the Eddie, Marquis, Baby, Sheed, Scal (or TA/Giddens/Walker) lineup much more than the Hudson, Eddie, Marquis, Sheed, Baby lineup. The latter has the same defensive liabilities that the Marbury / Eddie lineup had.

Hudson actually looks like he can defend. As in, knows how to defend instead of "I can hustle seee hehe" defend. I think that was part of the problem with Marbury. Additionally, Hudson's 6'3"; you can do shorter than that, assuming he'd be a 2 defensively alongside House. He also has long arms. Just because he's not as tall as Ray Allen, who's 6'6", doesn't mean he can't defend 2s. 

Regardless, I do see Hudson being eased into becoming a PG in D-league, if for no other reason because there'd be no minutes for him right now. However, I don't think it's because he'd be similar to Marbury.

[Jon]

I think he can spell Ray Ray effectively,especially with Rondo on the court with him.....we don't have to confine our thoughts to Doc's tunnel vision of having a full 2nd unit separate from the first on the court at the same time.

A unit of RR and LH with either PP or MD, Sheed or Garnett, and Baby or Perk would work in spelling Ray.

Rondo and Lester compliment each other well. Tenacious defenders, excellent rebounders from the guard position, both aggressive with the ball with RR the penetrator and budding (hope the work with Price pays off) jump shooter and LH as an all around scorer, slasher, shooter. Sounds good to me.

OK, but here's my problem, under what circumstances would that lineup ever occur?  If it's a game that matters, why wouldn't Doc play Eddie House instead of Hudson?  If it's a blowout, why are Rondo and Co. in the game at all? 

To me, the only way Hudson is going to get consistent minutes is if he beats out Eddie House, and I don't see that happening.  Otherwise, there's really no reason to play him outside of foul trouble or a blow out.  Remember, basketball is only 48 minutes long.  Rondo's going to play 35 mpg, Pierce and Allen are going to play more than 32 mpg.  That in the most extreme case, is only going to leave 45 mpg of backup minutes for the 1, 2, and 3 spots.  I don't see any reason why we have to go deeper than Marquis and Eddie to fill those minutes.  There simply aren't enough minutes for him. 

If Lester beats one of them out, great.  But I don't see the point in simply playing more players.  The best players should get the minutes. 

Jons right. Really, Lester Hudson is a keeper, but really only for injury insurance purposes. Doc has tried a small lineup with Hudson, Eddie backcourt during the preseason, but I'm sure that's just an experiment. If we really wanted to go small with the bench, I'm sure it would be Rondo with Eddie. And I just prefer the Eddie, Marquis, Baby, Sheed, Scal (or TA/Giddens/Walker) lineup much more than the Hudson, Eddie, Marquis, Sheed, Baby lineup. The latter has the same defensive liabilities that the Marbury / Eddie lineup had.

Hudson actually looks like he can defend. As in, knows how to defend instead of "I can hustle seee hehe" defend. I think that was part of the problem with Marbury. Additionally, Hudson's 6'3"; you can do shorter than that, assuming he'd be a 2 defensively alongside House. He also has long arms. Just because he's not as tall as Ray Allen, who's 6'6", doesn't mean he can't defend 2s. 

Regardless, I do see Hudson being eased into becoming a PG in D-league, if for no other reason because there'd be no minutes for him right now. However, I don't think it's because he'd be similar to Marbury.

Maybe.  But again, why should he play?  At best, there's going to be 45 minutes of backup minutes at the 1-3 spots (and in games against good teams, it's likely going to be only 35-40 minutes).  Since Eddie House playing 18-20 mpg and Marquis Daniels playing 25 mpg covers all those minutes, why should Lester Hudson play unless he beats one of them out?